FirefighterMTN
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That is good to know! I may be going the ordering route!
SR5 vs TRD OR
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That is good to know! I may be going the ordering route!
FirefighterMTN
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FirefighterMTN
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That's really what I'm coming to terms with. I think I need all the fun stuff, when in reality, HI/LO 4WD with some sort of traction control is all I need.
Though the hood scoop looks good in the car line, I can live with out it!!
As for the price difference......
When I compare the base packages, the difference is less than $3k.....making more sense to go with the OR.
Buuuuut, they are hard to come by. I asked my dealer to find a Lunar Rock or an Army Green and the allocations just aren't there. If I go SR5 and go with Mag Grey, I'll probably have one next week.
FirefighterMTN
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This is really what I'm wrestling with.
Slap on some new shocks, even some expensive ones and some skid plates and you have a rig that's close to a Pro at a much lesser price.
The thing is, I just don't think I'll use the goodies as much as I'd like to think I would.
I mountain bike and love taking trips to CO, but nothing we do requires the capabilities an OR has.
Obviously, I'm really just taking myself out of buying an Off-Road!
FirefighterMTN
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Thanks everyone!
As you might be able to tell, this turned into more of me talking myself into taking the cheaper, quicker route.
Other than the cooler colors, I just don't think I need an Off-Road. The extra goodies are nice, but I'd use them maybe once a year.
As you might be able to tell, this turned into more of me talking myself into taking the cheaper, quicker route.
Other than the cooler colors, I just don't think I need an Off-Road. The extra goodies are nice, but I'd use them maybe once a year.
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bzizzi
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ORP vs SR5
:frisky::frisky:I purchased a ORP, why ? Resale value and KDSS, i'll probably never use all the gizmos of my ORP but when it's time to sell or trade it'll bring the most money and be easier to sell because it's a TRD ORP. No matter what you do to a SR5 even though its still a great vehicle, it'll never be a TRD OR. I had a 2011 SR5 and my ORP with KDSS is a completely different vehicle. But the Hood Scoop was the main reason
:frisky::frisky:I purchased a ORP, why ? Resale value and KDSS, i'll probably never use all the gizmos of my ORP but when it's time to sell or trade it'll bring the most money and be easier to sell because it's a TRD ORP. No matter what you do to a SR5 even though its still a great vehicle, it'll never be a TRD OR. I had a 2011 SR5 and my ORP with KDSS is a completely different vehicle. But the Hood Scoop was the main reason
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I'd be looking upwards in models personally. The OR is nice but the ORP is nothing to sneeze at.
Mr_Bingley
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At 57 I'd waited long enough to finally get what I wanted in a truck, and I wanted the toys in the ORP, and it was a small enough premium over the SR5 given how long I plan to have it to avoid regrets. Will I ever use them? Perhaps, hoping to use some of them. I love the NautBlue, love the heated softex, and my only complaint is, yep, glare in the winter off that hood. I have to find some matt black decal...or maybe a solar panel lol
I just happened to stumble on my ORP last October before all the craziness and I'm really glad I did. I went to the dealer to test drive them and it was there. Tested it out and drove it home the next day. The softex interior, "carbon fiber" pieces, manual shifter plus all the offroad stuff sold me. Looking at SR5s inside I thought "meh, that's a lot of money for that." The Premium interior/upgrades really justified the price a lot in my mind since that is where I'd be spending my time and it was just a much more pleasing place to be. The price difference is minimal and you'll make it back in resale value. Who cares if you don't use the locker or use it 100 times. At least it's there.
Whippersnapper02
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If you're not going to wheel, SR5 is just fine. You can always add a locker if you need it.
ryguytheman
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I wheel a decent amount, and my SR5 has been plenty capable. I don't think I've ever gotten stuck in a situation that a locker would have gotten me out of.
That said, I would get the OR if I was doing it over. I grew to love wheeling because of this car. I didn't need a locker when I bought it, but I'd certainly take it now.
But my runner is very capable as is, so even though an aftermarket locker has been on my to-do list, I haven't felt the need to pull the trigger.
That said, I would get the OR if I was doing it over. I grew to love wheeling because of this car. I didn't need a locker when I bought it, but I'd certainly take it now.
But my runner is very capable as is, so even though an aftermarket locker has been on my to-do list, I haven't felt the need to pull the trigger.
MN_Pat
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When I asked the same question, it came down to only one thing. Locker
Better to have it and not need it for the <$2k on build price with apples to apples on other features. You will get a chunk of that back on resale down the road too. I didn't have an issue with the upfront cost and no regrets.
How often have I needed the cool gizmos like crawl control or mts where ATRAC wasn't enough? ZERO times
How often have the lockers been required in 3 summers and 2 winters. Twice, once in Moab and once towing a trailer on a snow covered lake. Expecting a few more times this winter given recent snows. Not needed often but when a locker is needed, oh boy is it needed. I won't go without for the small premium in price.
Now this worked for me but ymmv. If you really don't see yourself needing a locker it's amazing how capable the SR5 really is. I was astonished when I did my first time in Moab using 4lo and very very occasionally ATRAC.
Tire upgrades matter more than the locker too. Good tires on an SR5 will beat and OR locked with stock all seasons.
Better to have it and not need it for the <$2k on build price with apples to apples on other features. You will get a chunk of that back on resale down the road too. I didn't have an issue with the upfront cost and no regrets.
How often have I needed the cool gizmos like crawl control or mts where ATRAC wasn't enough? ZERO times
How often have the lockers been required in 3 summers and 2 winters. Twice, once in Moab and once towing a trailer on a snow covered lake. Expecting a few more times this winter given recent snows. Not needed often but when a locker is needed, oh boy is it needed. I won't go without for the small premium in price.
Now this worked for me but ymmv. If you really don't see yourself needing a locker it's amazing how capable the SR5 really is. I was astonished when I did my first time in Moab using 4lo and very very occasionally ATRAC.
Tire upgrades matter more than the locker too. Good tires on an SR5 will beat and OR locked with stock all seasons.
John in NC
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You mentioned the school pick up line, do you want a 3rd row? I don't have it and wish I did. If you only have 1 kid it might not be needed, but with the wife and 2 kids we're limited to just one more passenger without the third row unless adults want to cram in with no seatbelt.
We take the wife's Highlander when we need to haul a crowd so that helps.
We take the wife's Highlander when we need to haul a crowd so that helps.
Jetboy
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FWIW - I think CRAWL is mostly advantageous for novices because it simplifies the slow speed stuff. Perfect for my wife. Pop her in the driver's seat and she only has to steer. It is good for other stuff occasionally too. But not something I'd pay a lot more for.
The rear locker and MTS are basically the stars of the show for me. If you're not going to use them frequently, the SR5 is very capable. It's probably another 5% or 10% in capability. It's not a ton. For me it was worth it. And I wanted KDSS, so it was the only way to go. But it's not necessary for everyone. Now that I have kids my adventures are a lot more fire roads and a lot less winching out of rock gardens. I'd probably be fine with an SR5 for the next couple years. Based on your description it doesn't sound like you need them.
To ease your mind. Here's a stocker SR5 demonstration. ATRAC is pretty good for most situations for most people. I've posted this video a few times over the years. It really shows just how good ATRAC does. Especially for folks who aren't going rock crawling every weekend.
My parents have a TRD OR tacoma. I'd bet a dollar it's never been in 4Lo and the rear locker has never been engaged. They mostly just wanted ATRAC and that's not available in anything less than TRD OR. So we're luck in the 4R that ATRAC is standard.
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GearJunkie88
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Wow!
CO_ForeUnner
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I thought A-TRAC only works in 4-Lo
spartacus
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Correct. But the track and vsc are engaged in 2 wh dr and 4hi but can be disengaged. When in low the track and vsc are disabled but the Atrac can be engaged.
Jetboy
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I don't know for sure in the Tacoma. I'd bet it's never been used either way. It was just something my dad wanted to make sure he could get around the parking lots at the ski hill. Basically something more than open diffs. Full locker wasn't necessary. In Tacoma trims you get all or nothing. There's not an SR5 equivalent Tacoma with ATRAC but not the crawl/MTS/locker combo. That would have been more than enough for them.
My parents are not rational car owners. This is funny and absolutely true. They are both retired. And they currently have 6 cars. But not the fun cars you'd think of as you imagine a fleet of cars you'd want when you retire. There's an HD truck and a sports car, neither of which are probably used more than a day or two per year. Then they have a Rav4, a Highlander, a Tacoma, and a Land Cruiser. All completely stock. Why would it make sense to for 2 people to have those 4 vehicles with so much overlap? I have no idea. But when I visit I never have to rent a car. lol.
MTS works in my 4R in 4hi on the first setting. I don't think I've ever actually used ATRAC other than to see if the button works. Not sure why I would over using MTS. Honestly - not really sure why it has both. Seems redundant. Next time I'm visiting I'll see if ATRC or MTS work in 4hi in the Tacoma. I think ATRC is a no, but I don't know about MTS. I'll probably also engage the locker a few times, but in the new Tacomas it's not the same actuator so it's probably not an issue to not use it for long periods.
IMO every Toyota 4x4 should have ATRAC standard. There's really no excuse not to. It's software that has very little marginal cost. And it offers so much capability improvement.
