SVT raptor vs Tundra rock warrior

BucknutBob said:
(Disclaimer: I do not have personal experience with either of these) This is one of those rarest of occasions where I would take the Ford over the Toyota. The Raptor is NOT just an F-150 with nice tires and stripes--it has a full custom suspension designed for extreme articulation. The Yota, as I understand it, is basically the stock truck with some mild upgrades. Quality-wise, I haven't dealt with the newest Fords, but I have been around plenty of fairly recent models, and EVERY ONE had problems with interior equipment, whether steering column electrics, ignition switch, door seals, door warning switches, window switches, etc.. Toyota (as with nearly all Japanese makes) rarely has any issues where the driver interacts with the vehicle--their switches will still work just fine 20 years from now. Still, given the wealth of changes to the Raptor over pretty much all other offerings of light trucks, I think it would be worth the risk to experience all that suspension and drivetrain fun. Oh, and as for the frame issue--it sounds pretty clear that the damaged ones were in the hands of morons who expected the truck to be something it's NOT--a fully caged and gusseted trophy truck. I doubt you'd EVER see an issue there, even with fairly hard use. Anyway, that's my two cents worth...
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This! everyone is blah blah blah ill just mod the tundra. Ford Designed and Engineered it for the 35" tires and that suspension, an aftermarket parts makers simply cannot compete with that. While i feel $43k is a lot of money, i was genuinely surprised the Raptor was so cheaply priced considering what it is.
 
blue dog said:
Don't forget the ramrunner

Ford Raptor vs Ram Runner! - Head 2 Head Episode 14 - YouTube
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IIRC, trucks TV (on spike tv) did a comparison test between the two, and found that the Ram Runner was capable off-road with a plush, long-travel suspension but was really squirrely on the road, with lots of body roll, and plowed and wallowed through the turns. i think they also commented that it was fatiguing to drive because it didn't want to track in a straight line, they were constantly correcting just to stay in their lane.

the raptor had its fair share of body roll, but on the whole, felt a lot "tighter" and didn't wallow and plow, and tracked straight. it felt a lot better engineered and put together, like the ford engineers actually thought about the final product instead of just bolting on suspension bits, bigger tires, and calling it a day (apparently, that's what the reviewers thought of the Ram Runner).

for an off-road or mild crawling vehicle, the Ram Runner was their choice. For everyday use, the Raptor was their choice.
 
took a look at a Raptor recently, and compared it to the F-350 and chevy 3500HD dually crew cabs (my other choices).

i don't have the exact specs, but i'd heard and read that the raptor was just about as wide as a dually due to wider track, and they weren't kidding. parked side by side, the F-350 dually and the raptor look quite similar in width.

parked next to a standard F-150, the raptor looks like a tank.

it doesn't look so wide by itself or on a regular road, but when you have something to compare it to, you'd be surprised how wide the thing is.

i don't think i could navigate that thing thru the pickup lines at our son's school (narrow lanes, made even narrower by double-parking parents, etc...).

one guy has a velociraptor he uses as his DD, and he juuuuust makes it through the pickup lanes. he's got more guts than me. if i waved off on a dually because i didn't think i could fit in the pickup lane, i don't think the raptor's going to be any better.
 
Ohhh S.k. CFPB said:
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Prices are off the top of my head from some quick it would easily be over 10k in parts and labor. But it would definintly be a raptor killer


Personally I would build the tundra than buy a cookie cutter truck
Those are just general numbers
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^That. I saw one being used by a local painter company last week.
What a waste of a nice truck, guy leased it and is ruining it quickly.
Let's see if this embed code works, Matt and Nicole's Tundra.
I doubt I'll ever see this hauling paint rollers and buckets dripping as it goes down the freeway.
 
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go with the raptor. The only reason there's been so many complaints about bent frames on the raptor is because people with no experience jumping trucks. People try jumping it and end up ****ing up their truck because they didn't know what they were doing. Watch videos of professional drivers jumping the raptor at high speeds they never tweak the frame because they know what they're doing. IMO Ford misadvertised the raptor making it sound like anyone could jump the truck and be fine. It's the same with almost anything, if you don't know what you're doing you're probably doing it wrong.
 
ID_DTD said:
IMO Ford misadvertised the raptor making it sound like anyone could jump the truck and be fine. It's the same with almost anything, if you don't know what you're doing you're probably doing it wrong.
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But, but, but then people can't just say the cliche "Just riding along..." or "Just driving along..." and would have to accept actual responsibility and own up to their mistakes and then, and then they'd have to spend actual money out of their own pocketbooks and then, and then, huf-huf-huf, and then they'd have to not be able to spend money on stupid other things trying to keep up with the Jonses, and then, and then, and then...





..the whole world would go into a cosmic tailspin because people would be realistic about things, again.


I CAN'T HANDLE A WORLD LIKE THAT MAN! :D
 
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