Sway bar disconnect??

[bulger22]

So if I've read correctly some have disconnected their sway bars after the 3" lift. What are your thoughts about this? Does it ride a bit smoother and not as solid?

Also in my situation I ordered the OME 891's (heavy load) for rear and the 881's (light load) for the front. Would it make sense to just disconnect the rear sway bar so it's not as rough and solid and will even out the sway from rear to front? And I'll just keep the front sway connected?

Thoughts? Thanks in advance.

 

[Justin727]

I wouldn't suggest it unless you plan on hitting some good off roading. If you're that worried about disconnecting get some quick disonnects so you can atleast connect them back while you're on the road.

 

[Lignum]

My buddies with jeeps talk of "death wobbles" when driving with the swaybar disconnected at highway speeds. Is this a jeep thing or a solid front axle thing? Could it happen on a T4R?

 

[dustin Keeler]

My buddies with jeeps talk of "death wobbles" when driving with the swaybar disconnected at highway speeds. Is this a jeep thing or a solid front axle thing? Could it happen on a T4R?

I am a converted jeep guy. I have a 1997 limited now with some questions about sway bars on ifs rigs as well, but to address my experience with the death wobble.

I had a yj which has the leafs in front and back and no sway bars connected. I had no wobble at all ever. All my buddies with the tj's and cherokee's that get the death wobble get it from the track bar getting slop in it and allowing the axle to shift from side to side. I have personally been in vehicles that did it with sway bars connected and one that have not had them connected, no differance.

IMHO, the track bar is what causes it not the sway bar. The track bar keeps you from side to side and the sway isup and down if that makes sence? Hope that helps.

I have a question on sway bars on my ifs. Can you take the sway bar off the front for offroad use and does it have any benefit if so? I was getting ready to search on here but one was started already.

 

[brian2sun]

I don't have a front sway bar and I like it. I took it off because I snapped a link and don't care enough to put a new one back on - especially since the 4runner isn't my DD anymore. The death wobble is a Jeep thing so don't worry about it on a 4runner. It has nothing to do with the sway bars, like Dustin said, it's the track bar that causes the solid axle to move side to side.

I can't say for the rear because I've never removed it, but no front bar is no big deal on road, at least not to me. The front end dives more around sharp turns and makes it feel like it has a higher COG and body roll, but it's not a huge difference. Other than that, it took me 5 minutes to get used to driving with it off. I have no plans on replacing it.

It does allow the front suspension to travel and articulate a bit more and it softened up my suspension a little on and off road. The only thing you may want to consider is getting limiting straps because if you turn at just the right angle and let the control arms droop just enough, you could drop a CV axle. I have never even come close to that happening, but some have had it happen.

The s.b. discos are good too. I would get those if I cared to spend that much money on a problem that's not really a problem. For me, I'll just leave it off. I'm thinking about ditching the rear one now too, but haven't decided for sure.

 

[steezemcqueen]

I don't have a front sway bar and I like it. I took it off because I snapped a link and don't care enough to put a new one back on - especially since the 4runner isn't my DD anymore. The death wobble is a Jeep thing so don't worry about it on a 4runner. It has nothing to do with the sway bars, like Dustin said, it's the track bar that causes the solid axle to move side to side.

I can't say for the rear because I've never removed it, but no front bar is no big deal on road, at least not to me. The front end dives more around sharp turns and makes it feel like it has a higher COG and body roll, but it's not a huge difference. Other than that, it took me 5 minutes to get used to driving with it off. I have no plans on replacing it.

It does allow the front suspension to travel and articulate a bit more and it softened up my suspension a little on and off road. The only thing you may want to consider is getting limiting straps because if you turn at just the right angle and let the control arms droop just enough, you could drop a CV axle. I have never even come close to that happening, but some have had it happen.

The s.b. discos are good too. I would get those if I cared to spend that much money on a problem that's not really a problem. For me, I'll just leave it off. I'm thinking about ditching the rear one now too, but haven't decided for sure.

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this is on rics 4th gen but the results are very similar on the 3rd gen
swaybar stats w/pix - Toyota 120 Platforms Forum

 

[kregg]

Toyota 4X4 Products & Custom Fabrication | WabFab

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**** The excess has since been trimmed off the top of the bolt ****

I can remove both sides using a 19mm socket/rachet in less than 5 mins...

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[kregg]

More flex up front...

Same "Poser Rock"...

First pic is with sway bar connected, second is disco-ed.

You can def. see a difference in the front tuck...

:bigok:

 

[Elton H]

i still have my front one after i put on lc coils i didint feel like bother with the links so i just tossed it sure does make ita flexy sob its drives fine to me

 

[brian2sun]

I'm wondering besides being beefier, what about these is quicker to remove than the stock ones?

 

[kregg]

I'm wondering besides being beefier, what about these is quicker to remove than the stock ones?

Pin in the bottom mount instead of a bolt. You only have one nut to loosen.

 

[brian2sun]

Pin in the bottom mount instead of a bolt. You only have one nut to loosen.

Ahh, I see.

 

[Mr. Leary]

I wouldn't suggest it unless you plan on hitting some good off roading. If you're that worried about disconnecting get some quick disonnects so you can atleast connect them back while you're on the road.

I have both front and rear discos. I drive off road more than most. I don't even bother disconnecting them anymore.

If you disconnect the rear, you will get about one to two more inches of travel. If you disconnect the front, you will almost double your travel... around 3.5 inches.

I don't do extreme wheeling, but IMO, diff lockers are far more important than additional articulation on a truck that already has more than decent IFS flex.