Syrian Refugee Crisis

[Thai]

But dude, he's saying that these people are muslims. Those damn muslims!

:lookout:

T4R2014, do you feel the same way after recent events? You still want us to let Syrians come over in masses? Did you sign the petition to allow such?

I wonder if the liberals who wanted USA to accept these Syrian immigrants with open arms and no questions asked STILL feel the same way now?

 

[T4R2014]

T4R2014, do you feel the same way after recent events? You still want us to let Syrians come over in masses? Did you sign the petition to allow such?

I wonder if the liberals who wanted USA to accept these Syrian immigrants with open arms and no questions asked STILL feel the same way now?

Do I have anything against Muslims? Not at all. There are religious wackos everywhere. I am against ISIS, not Muslims or Islam. With that said, I never thought this refugee plan was perfect, and frankly I was not surprised that some ISIS POS's made it into the EU. It's truly a shame because there are some good people among these refugees. And no, I did not sign the petition.

At least the European gun control laws worked. :fish:

 

[Thai]

Do I have anything against Muslims? Not at all. There are religious wackos everywhere. I am against ISIS, not Muslims or Islam. With that said, I never thought this refugee plan was perfect, and frankly I was not surprised that some ISIS POS's made it into the EU. It's truly a shame because there are some good people among these refugees. And no, I did not sign the petition.

At least the European gun control laws worked. :fish:

ISIS is following Islam teachings/laws to the letter. The other moderate Muslims are infidels according to ISIS...and need to die with the Westerners. This is why you have fighting among the Muslims. So, the question is...if you're against ISIS, then should you not ALSO be against Islam?

I agree that there are many good Muslims, but how can you separate the good from the bad? How can you tell which one is a casual follower of Islam and which one follows it to every detail of the teaching/law?

 

[ndcent]

So the real question is, is why OP went silent on his own thread?

This attack on Paris once again shows true face of Islam. Everyone who defends Muslims saying things like "These are just the extremists blah blah blah" Don't understand Islam. These are not the "Extremists" they are just following true Islam. The so-called "Moderates" are simply not fully practicing their religion. Saying there are good Muslims who aren't terrorists, is just like saying there are KKK members who haven't lynched any African Americans, or there were some Nazi's that didn't kill any Jews. These ISIS/terrorists are simply following in Muhammad's footsteps.

So no... No Syrian Refugees for me. Lets take care of the some 50,000 homeless Veterans that fought to protect the sanctity of America.

The Paris attack shows the true face of Islam like Timothy McVeigh shows the true face of Christianity.

 

[ndcent]

ISIS is following Islam teachings/laws to the letter. The other moderate Muslims are infidels according to ISIS...and need to die with the Westerners. This is why you have fighting among the Muslims. So, the question is...if you're against ISIS, then should you not ALSO be against Islam?

I agree that there are many good Muslims, but how can you separate the good from the bad? How can you tell which one is a casual follower of Islam and which one follows it to every detail of the teaching/law?

I agree that there are many good Christians, but how can you separate the good from the bad? How can you tell which one is a casual follower of Christianity and which one follows it to every detail of the teaching/law?

 

[T4R2014]

ISIS is following Islam teachings/laws to the letter. The other moderate Muslims are infidels according to ISIS...and need to die with the Westerners. This is why you have fighting among the Muslims. So, the question is...if you're against ISIS, then should you not ALSO be against Islam?

I agree that there are many good Muslims, but how can you separate the good from the bad? How can you tell which one is a casual follower of Islam and which one follows it to every detail of the teaching/law?

I didn't know you set this totally unbiased and truthful representation of the religion in stone? I suppose ISIS is following Islam in accordance to some sort of heavily Right-wing leaning/Fox News representation of it.

 

[Thai]

I agree that there are many good Christians, but how can you separate the good from the bad? How can you tell which one is a casual follower of Christianity and which one follows it to every detail of the teaching/law?

True...but does Christianity teach you to take aggressive actions against "infidels"? A few Christians have gone beyond the teachings to do bad things, but the Bible does not teach the same extremist ideology as Islam. You disagree? How so?

I didn't know you set this totally unbiased and truthful representation of the religion in stone? I suppose ISIS is following Islam in accordance to some sort of heavily Right-wing leaning/Fox News representation of it.

You need to read more dude.

 

[Thai]

“Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.” Quran (2:216)

Those ruthless ISIS terrorists sincerely believe they are pious devotees of Islam’s god “Allah” and that they act according to his holy scripture “Quran” and they are the true followers of his prophet “Mohamed”.

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[amalik]

I agree that there are many good Muslims, but how can you separate the good from the bad? How can you tell which one is a casual follower of Islam and which one follows it to every detail of the teaching/law?

There are numerous Muslims who are absolutely terrified at these events as much as the next person. Just a day earlier, Arabs/Muslims/Christians in Lebanon were killed by the same group. Many statements have been made by Muslims in the US and around the world denouncing the actions of ISIS and their extremism. ISIS is like the drug cartels in Mexico, except they are fueled with religious propaganda.

The verses in the Qur'an regarding killing the unbelievers relate to historical battles where they were defending themselves from enemies attacking them, and are misinterpreted by the extremists to apply to any situation they wish.

If anything, the Bible contains a lot more literally violent, non-understandable injunctions like killing your kids when they are disrespectful, not allowing women to speak in front of men, and so on. (Not trying to Bash any religion here, just comparing).

With all due respect -- you mentioned to others they need to read more, but it sounds like you need to read more, a lot more.

Muslims ruled most of the known world for a while -- Have you ever heard of the Ottoman empire? The 'Moore' /Islamic Empire in Spain that spanned 1,000+ years?

The reason I ask is, why wouldn't they just kill all those who didn't believe in their religion at that time, since it's such a large injunction and foundation of their religion, according to you? Obviously everyone they ruled over didn't share their faith, and their descendants are obviously around today. Just do some simple research and you'll discover the things I'm saying.

You won't find anything unbiased watching Fox news 24/7.

 

[Thai]

You won't find anything unbiased watching Fox news 24/7.

Actually, i understand ISIS and their devoted followers from reading many sources...FOX news not one of them. Sorry to rain on your parade.

But, my question for you is this...in today's world, how many Christian groups have killed their kids in the name of religion because of disrespectfulness?

Note: I am NOT a Christian. I am NOT with any religion. But, i am not an atheist.

 

[amalik]

Actually, i understand ISIS and their devoted followers from reading many sources...FOX news not one of them. Sorry to rain on your parade.

But, my question for you is this...in today's world, how many Christian groups have killed their kids in the name of religion because of disrespectfulness?

Note: I am NOT a Christian. I am NOT with any religion. But, i am not an atheist.

The issue isn't if Christians practice the Bible literally. That is getting off topic. The issue is, you think it's part of Islam's tenants to kill everyone; instead of viewing that as the viewpoint of a small group of extremists from extreme backgrounds (middle east wars, poverty, huge level of government repression where they are from i.e. Syria) who are hell-bent on bloodthirsty revenge and messing up the name and image of one of the major world religions in the process.

 

[Thai]

The issue is, you think it's part of Islam's tenants to kill everyone; instead of viewing that as the viewpoint of a small group of extremists from extreme backgrounds (middle east wars, poverty, huge level of government repression where they are from i.. Syria) who are hell-bent on revenge and messing up the name and image of one of the world religions.

Now you sound like Obama! :dance:

Sunni is a small group of extremists??? Correct me if i am wrong, but Sunni's think that they are the TRUE believers (and true descendants of Mohammed). Shi'a came from the in-laws of Mohammed and are considered by the Sunni's to be infidels...and no better than Westerners.

ISIS are Sunni, Wahabi sect, right?

You think that ISIS is a "small group of extremists"??? You blame ISIS rein of terror because of wars, poverty, and repression??!!!

Sorry, if you truly believe that (and i seriously doubt that you are THAT naive), then it is YOU who need to understand Muslim and Islam better. You REALLY sound like Obama with that crap you just regurgitated....

What religion do you practice?

 

[nevada]

I'm not sure what you mean by follow the money.

Migrants into Europe send most of their money to their families "back home" instead of spending it in the local EU economies. There are estimates that $50 Billion a year is sent out of the EU and back into Africa. This is very economically damaging.

just like the US and our southern border.

 

[MtnT4R]

Well, if they were hoping for a backlash, they got it:

French Air Force Launches Airstrikes against ISIS in Raqqa

Far-right protests break out across France | World | News | Daily Express

Paris attacks: France to call for effective suspension of Schengen open borders - Telegraph

And the US is jumping on board:
Alabama and Michigan governors start refusing Syrian refugees after Paris attack | Daily Mail Online

 

[T4R2014]

You need to read more dude.

:thumb3: Sorry that my agenda doesn't align with yours. Honestly, I wanted to say the same thing.

 

[ndcent]

Blaming all Muslims for the cowardly acts of a few is like blaming all musicians for the pile of shit coward Ted Nugent.

I despise ALL religious extremism, not just the brown people with funny names brand.

 

[T4R2014]

Now you sound like Obama!

You REALLY sound like Obama with that crap you just regurgitated...

This thread will end well.

 

[Thai]

Blaming all Muslims for the cowardly acts of a few is like blaming all musicians for the pile of shit coward Ted Nugent.

I despise ALL religious extremism, not just the brown people with funny names brand.

Sure, believe that only a "few" are at fault....

Blind ignorance at its best....

 

[Thai]

This thread will end well.

So, you believe that ISIS came out of small group of extremists from extreme backgrounds (middle east wars, poverty, huge level of government repression where they are from i.. Syria)?? Next you will say that ISIS members came about because their parents did not show them love??

If ISIS members had money or did not have repression, then they are happy and leave us alone??

YOU believe that about ISIS?

 

[Thai]

Well, if they were hoping for a backlash, they got it:

French Air Force Launches Airstrikes against ISIS in Raqqa

Far-right protests break out across France | World | News | Daily Express

Paris attacks: France to call for effective suspension of Schengen open borders - Telegraph

Won't do a damn good. ISIS is already in France. ISIS have shown to be very capable of fighting a good war...just ask Hezbollah! Hezbollah once was able to repel Israel's best...but even they got thrown back by ISIS.