T4R vibrates when I press on the breaks

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When I am driving fairly fast (over 40mph) and I go to slow down there is a lot of vibration in the stearing. It just started a few weeks ago. I installed the Bilstein 5100 shocks and FJ coils back in Sept and it drove awesome until just now. I don't know much about these things... is it something with the breaks?
 
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When I am driving fairly fast (over 40mph) and I go to slow down there is a lot of vibration in the stearing. It just started a few weeks ago. I installed the Bilstein 5100 shocks and FJ coils back in Sept and it drove awesome until just now. I don't know much about these things... is it something with the breaks?

Warped rotors is the most common cause of this.
 
Id get it done asap.

Best case scenario: Rotors get machines and pads are checked and cleared.

Worst case scenario: Frozen piston on a caliper, needs replacement.

All i can suggest is that you STAY WITH OEM ROTORS & PADS! Ive had 3 other brands, NONE are as good as OEM's IMO.
 
Thanks for the reply, how do you fix this? Is it expensive? Is it important to fix it right away?

Machine rotors, if it is warped too much then you will have to replace them. Take it to a local brake shop and have them take a look at it. If you are mechanically inclined you can take the rotors off and take them to an auto parts store that machines rotors to find out if they can be machined before buying new ones. Its not terribly expensive, I would say 300 for new pads and rotors for the front.

Wanted to add.....Its not important to fix right away. It wont hurt anything to go a while longer like it is it is just annoying.
 
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Id get it done asap.

Best case scenario: Rotors get machines and pads are checked and cleared.

Worst case scenario: Frozen piston on a caliper, needs replacement.

All i can suggest is that you STAY WITH OEM ROTORS & PADS! Ive had 3 other brands, NONE are as good as OEM's IMO.

i disagree about the rotor statement. i agree with the pads statement though.
I'm running napa ultra premium rotors and they are amazing. Don't rust to boot. Looks like the first day i put on them on everyday.
 
Assuming you DO NOT have a frozen caliper piston:

Machining the rotors is one way to stop the pulsing while braking. However, brake rotors seldom actually "warp". What usually causes the pulsating feeling is uneven deposits of brake pad material, which can in some cases be remedied by rebedding the pads or temporarily running a more abrasive pad to "scrape off" the unevenly deposited pad material. I would try rebedding the pads before paying to have the rotors machined.

Read this thread for more great info: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/69613-brake-rotors-warp-easily.html
 
OP: The fact that you just did work on your suspension could be coincidental to your vibrations under braking, but it's likely that you have the fairly common "warped rotors." The OEM pads are notorious for causing brake vibrations by depositing uneven amounts of pad compound on the rotors. Many believe that warped rotors is a myth (see this post on here http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/81750-pulsing-feeling-during-braking-2.html#post704764), including me. After years of racing I've yet to see a warped rotor. Here's my reasoning: when I've had "warped rotors" I've been able to "unwarp" the rotors by running a 3M cleaning pad on both sides of the rotors -- vibrations are gone. The 3M pad doesn't remove metal; therefore, I think I just removed uneven brake compound deposits.

As mentioned above, you could have a seized caliper that will exacerbate the problem by building heat in the rotors and pads and potentially causing even more odd pad compound deposits. Definitely check for that...I've had two seize. If you're not AWD, it pretty easy to check.

Basic check: Jack the wheel with it in neutral (chock wheels for safety!) and see if you can spin the wheel without the brakes on...if not you may have a seized caliper.

Double-check: Loosen the master cylinder cap and press the pads back (compressing piston), the wheel (or rotor if wheel is off) should spin. Now tighten the master cylinder cap, apply and release the brake. If your caliper is seized it will be hard to spin the rotor in the caliper. If you have a seized caliper, replace that before or while trying to fix the vibrations.

What you can do to fix rotor vibrations: Turning the rotors will fix the symptoms by literally taking the uneven compound off of the disc along with the metal. The downside is that you can only do this so often, because as the disc gets thinner it doesn't work as well (less heat capacity) and can cause more compound transfer (potentially more shaking). I think the OEM pads are prone to depositing uneven amounts of compound that causes the vibration. I've had many cars and racing brake setups. Some have had similar problems, but nothing as prevalent as the OEM pads. I keep cleaning the rotors with a 3M pad (I have one on my air grinder that makes it quick to do), but I realize most people aren't going to pull their rotors to do this, hence the typical shop turning-the-rotors solution. Perhaps someone can recommend a pad that isn't prone to this type of deposit. I've used many for other cars, but I don't want to speculate since the compound could be different in an SUV application.

My next experiment is to use a new burnishing tool that I bought to clean the rotors and put a nice burnished (cross-hatched) finish on the rotors that I hope will promote even compound deposit. I'm in the middle of moving, but when I get to it later this summer I'll make sure to post the results.

haha, I see "sonerick" said the same thing while I was typing my post....
 

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