The MOST CRAPTASTIC Windshields Ever: More 5th Gen Butthurt

[RichinRidgewood]

I was in North Carolina when a dump truck got on I95. We were only going like 50mph when a stone bounced and hit my windshield and caused a star.

In one year (2020-2021) I have had a chip and a star and now the star turned into a crack when Safelite was trying to put a vacuum on it to fill the star in.

These Toyota 4Runner windshields are the biggest pieces of shit I have ever seen on a vehicle in my entire life.

 

[llDemonll]

Also like a near-vertical windshield will catch rocks, huh? Whodathunk.

 

[uh0h50]

Just remove the windshield. Problem solved.

 

[spartacus]

I avoid driving behind dump trucks

 

[RunTheJoules]

I was in North Carolina when a dump truck got on I95. We were only going like 50mph when a stone bounced and hit my windshield and caused a star.

In one year (2020-2021) I have had a chip and a star and now the star turned into a crack when Safelite was trying to put a vacuum on it to fill the star in.

These Toyota 4Runner windshields are the biggest pieces of shit I have ever seen on a vehicle in my entire life.

So who makes a windshield that doesn't crack when hit with a rock at 50+MPH?


Never seen someone so distraught over a cracked windshield. :hurt:

 

[RichinRidgewood]

It's sad that anyone would think that a fragile windshield like this is ok.

 

[Dynamo]

A rock strike put a nice big crack in my windshield right by the rear view mirror a month after buying it new.

Ironically, my '13 FJ Cruiser that I bought new still had the original windshield when I traded it in for my 4Runner. I had repaired 2 star chips in it and it had a bunch of sand sparkles but it never got cracked.

 

[sgvT4R]

Virtually all automotive glass is made to a certain standard thickness and the main manufacturer is PPG. I've seen small rocks going 25mph crack a windshield and sometimes 50mph and not break a glass. It just depends on the type of rock and how it hits the surface. I'm basically saying, you were just unlucky this time.

 

[RunTheJoules]

It's sad that anyone would think that a fragile windshield like this is ok.

And it's hilarious that you think a windshield is fragile because it cracks from a rock impact at 50MPH.

5 vehicles I've owned now, and not single windshield was immune to rocks.... guess they were all just fragile. :yawn:

 

[pDubs]

My 5th gen (2014 4unner) is on its original windshield, no cracks or chips and has 112k miles on it now. I have had rocks fly up, nail the windshield scaring the S out of me several times, no visible damage anywhere.

Between the wife and I we have had 3 4runners. 2 4th gens, and now this 5th gen, each had or has over 100k on before upgrading to 5th gen or selling for a bigger vehicle for wife. Never had to replace or repair any of them.

 

[MickyC]

I'd move to a different area where you didn't need to follow trucks so much.

 

[RichinRidgewood]

Virtually all automotive glass is made to a certain standard thickness and the main manufacturer is PPG. I've seen small rocks going 25mph crack a windshield and sometimes 50mph and not break a glass. It just depends on the type of rock and how it hits the surface. I'm basically saying, you were just unlucky this time.

These were made in Japan. I bet it's a Japanese mfgr. and not PPG.

I have done programs at Ford where I was responsible for the glass in South America and it was a French company who supplied the glass if I remember correctly.

The glass is not good enough for the application. That was even part of the conversation with my insurance people and the tech at Safelite based on the number of Toyota claims they see.

 

[2021nightshade4x4]

Can’t comment yet on Toyota’s glass. Miss my laminated front driver and passenger windows in Dodge and Land Rover. As unreliable as Dodge and Land Rover are in everything else, their glass vendor (Pilkington) makes some of the strongest laminated stuff in any vehicle I’ve had.


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[Whippersnapper02]

Replace it with a metal panel.

 

[Too Stroked]

I don't think Toyota glass is any more fragile than any other major manufacturer. If you don't like Toyota glass, wait till you see what Safelite slaps in there. Some of the aftermarket stuff has more waves than the average Great Lake.

 

[RichinRidgewood]

I don't think Toyota glass is any more fragile than any other major manufacturer. If you don't like Toyota glass, wait till you see what Safelite slaps in there. Some of the aftermarket stuff has more waves than the average Great Lake.

Nope

My insurance is for new OEM replacement parts. Glass has $0 deductible too.

I dont know if I would have Safelite do the R&R anyhow.

I wont replace it until it leaks or I cannot stand looking at the crack. That might be years.

 

[Engineer]

Well this may be the dumbest thread of 2021,

Now If you had said that the more upright design of the 4runner glass causes it to be more prone to damage from impacts I think everyone would agree - and might even match up with this scientific discussion you had with the glass repair man/insurance gurus

You have no idea on the size, weight, shape etc of the object that hit the windshield and you just default to the worst ever. Was there a control study done against other manufacturing in the same setting?........great science

But I will play - I got a stone chip in my glass 4-5years ago, did a self repair with a cheap kit from the parts store and it didn't spider so I think Toyota glass is excellent and I am also 10x better repair man then your safelite guy

I just ribbing you OP, its the internet you can post what you want but seriously...Craptastic thread

 

[pcstockton]

Laminated glass is laminated glass. There are no better or worse make-ups. Maybe the interlayer is thicker on some, but that will not affect the strength of the glass to exterior impacts. Claiming otherwise would be like saying the 316 Stainless Steel from one company is superior to another's.

 

[NW.OH.T4R]

Virtually all automotive glass is made to a certain standard thickness and the main manufacturer is PPG. I've seen small rocks going 25mph crack a windshield and sometimes 50mph and not break a glass. It just depends on the type of rock and how it hits the surface. I'm basically saying, you were just unlucky this time.

There are some false statements here.
1) automotive glass comes in a wide array of thicknesses and compositions and laminate ply architecture. There are significant differences when biasing which ply is thicker is the laminate construction.
2)PPG doesn’t even exist - hasn’t for several years. They sold their automotive operations to PGW and then sold everything to Vitro out of Mexico. Last I checked AGC had the highest market share followed closely by Fuyao, then Vitro, NSG Pilkington, Guardian/Carlex.


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[NW.OH.T4R]

Laminated glass is laminated glass. There are no better or worse make-ups. Maybe the interlayer is thicker on some, but that will not affect the strength of the glass to exterior impacts. Claiming otherwise would be like saying the 316 Stainless Steel from one company is superior to another's.

This is not correct. You can vary the thickness of each glass layer and vary the interlayer to improve strength, acoustic properties, etc


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