The ZR2
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SupaSupra
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Yeah, I've already written off the Taco in favor of the Colorado. I feel Toyota got complacent with the Taco.
fourwd1
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Thats because they're selling the crap out of them in spite of all the problems they have and the poor service.
SupaSupra
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I really just want a new V8 4Runner lol.
BlackWorksInc
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Amen to that... it just never stops with these damn things.
There's a Tech Tip because the leaf springs get dusty/dirty and they squeak so you have to regularly "floss" the leafs clean. I don't recall ever having to do this on anything but a 3rd gen Tacoma.
The crankshaft position sensor is being included in a new recall, I imagine it took them this long to build up parts reserve. We've had a couple come in with a "bad" crank position sensor (it's got a specific mark on it vs. the "good" ones) that has caused stalling or drivability issues.
Apparently they couldn't be bothered to tighten the rear pumpkin bolts on the rear axle so that's a recall also. (not enough give a shits at the factory? or just incompetent idiots? I can't tell anymore...)
Supposedly the new software update is supposed to help the trucks shift smoother and better, but honestly it still feels gutless and doesn't like not being driven like a Prius.
The dashes all rattle, I swear it's like it's a feature; same passenger's side A-Pillar spot on almost all the Tacomas.
Toyota just shat all over the Tacoma with this latest generation, it actually looks okay inside and out for the most part (some stuff I could do without). But as a package it's crap. Yet they sell and I have to deal with customer's buyer's remorse and laundry list of crap because of it.
Best part is you have all these people crying for a "better 4Runner" with a 6-spd and such; yet they think it's NOT going to have a Tacoma drivetrain and all the issues that come with that. I find that the funniest part. Unless Toyota decides to make the 4Runner a glorified Highlander with that shitty Start/Stop tech (which is probably coming to all Toyotas down the line, unfortunately), it's going to be a carbon-copy of the Tacoma and then the 6th gen forums will look like the Tacoma World forums!
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LandCruiser
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I test drove the quad cab long bed model.
I asked the dealer if they're EVER going to offer them with discs in the rear, the dealer tried to give me BS about how drums are somehow better in an era where every damn truck has face ripping off stopping power and discs all around... that's when the damn thing stalled out on us and wouldn't start back up again.
God they're shitty.
Ed_C
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Can you believe the Toyota Engineers also said something similar when this current generation Tacoma was introduced?
I forget which youtube channel I was viewing but when asked why it still had rear drums, the engineer said rear discs may be better for heavy towing but it's not needed on the Taco according to their research....because you know nobody ever tows heavy loads on their Tacoma :twitch: Same guy also mentioned how discs are more prone to noise when driving through sand and crap...I guess Tundra, Landcruiser, 4Runner, and other Toyota/Lexus SUV owners are too deaf to notice the brake noise
hwell: Makes me wonder now if that dude was really an engineer or a professional BS artist.Muzzle of Bees
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The additional 2017 Tacoma production will be moved to Mexico. I wonder if that will be an issue for anyone?
I know that I would not buy a VW because of the majority of the production location.
I know that I would not buy a VW because of the majority of the production location.
4Reak Show
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There isn't enough money in the world to pay me to drive a Chevy. Wait a few months, GM is in big trouble again. There will be deals.
Amen. Their big trucks are fine but the little ones have fallen off.
Example:
Replacing engine right now on an '07 canyon, 170,000 miles. Customer wanted replacement instead of head job due to valve issues. And guess how many engines were available from Junkers? Just the one! Tells me even scrappers don't want this engine...
American cars are always great for power, but never last as long. So you can chose fun right now, and pay for it later. Or you can chose slightly less fun, and have a vehicle for quite awhile, relatively worry free.
I've only owned toyotas so maybe I'm biased.
Borebrotherbore
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Please, whatever you do don't order one of these until they have been out for a few months and have all the issued ironed out from the initial production. I made the mistake of buying the Colorado back in '05 when they first came out as I loved the old S10s and wanted something similar.
Needless to say that truck made it 6 months before I traded it at a huge loss for a Tacoma. If I had the money back then to hire a lawyer and fight the lemon law I would have.
This is not even a Chevy only problem. Just know that initial runs are usually riddled with problems.
I guess since they aren't making a whole new model but upgrading the one that's been around for a couple years now, you should get lucky.
But getting a diesel would scare me as its the initial offering of that, correct?
Needless to say I traded off my 4runner PRO for a LC about a month back. Couldn't be happier
Needless to say that truck made it 6 months before I traded it at a huge loss for a Tacoma. If I had the money back then to hire a lawyer and fight the lemon law I would have.
This is not even a Chevy only problem. Just know that initial runs are usually riddled with problems.
I guess since they aren't making a whole new model but upgrading the one that's been around for a couple years now, you should get lucky.
But getting a diesel would scare me as its the initial offering of that, correct?
Needless to say I traded off my 4runner PRO for a LC about a month back. Couldn't be happier
Well the junkers not having the engine tells me that generally most of the engines are still running. I do agree that Toyotas last a long time, that is why I have owned so many, but there are a ton of American cars with high mileage. Any more I feel you are splitting hairs with how long modern cars last no matter which brand. Also those year Canyons and Colorados were the reason why GM dropped the line and retooled with the new generation which is far superior to the old ones. YMMV.
Please, whatever you do don't order one of these until they have been out for a few months and have all the issued ironed out from the initial production. I made the mistake of buying the Colorado back in '05 when they first came out as I loved the old S10s and wanted something similar.
Needless to say that truck made it 6 months before I traded it at a huge loss for a Tacoma. If I had the money back then to hire a lawyer and fight the lemon law I would have.
This is not even a Chevy only problem. Just know that initial runs are usually riddled with problems.
I guess since they aren't making a whole new model but upgrading the one that's been around for a couple years now, you should get lucky.
But getting a diesel would scare me as its the initial offering of that, correct?
Needless to say I traded off my 4runner PRO for a LC about a month back. Couldn't be happier
That diesel has been produced for a few years now overseas. It's a good little engine. But again if I get one it will be gas. Just can't justify the extra price for the diesel. I do agree on waiting until at least the second year but in this case it would be for the shocks which are new tech. Congrats on your LC!
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gm350reratliff
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Long story short, a couple weeks ago I purchased a TRDP Tundra in Ohio and drove it back to NM. While driving through Indiana, there were dozens of 18-wheeler transporters with new GM trucks (guess I was close to the factory) and a bunch of those were loaded with the new ZR2's. They did look good on the trailer. Good luck with yours, and keep us updated on it.
The engine itself is good, it's all the emissions crap on there that is giving the problems. One of my co-workers has a diesel ZR2 and it's been in the shop a few times already due to some check engine light/emissions issues. The same goes for pretty much all the new diesels. The engines themselves are good the after treatment is the issue.
