Well it wouldn't be the first time this year 5th gen 4R owners made themselves look bad. Check out a few stories on IG and you'd know. Built up 5th gen got himself stuck in a Nevada dry lake bed which turned into mud slop. Was stuck for a few days before local 4x4'ers rescued him after the story spread on IG and FB. This was after locals and Public Land signs warned him not to go into this area. Another 5th gen got himself stuck up to the frame in mud just yesterday somewhere in the NE. It looked stock at best and had no recovery gear or traction boards. Rescue efforts seem to be underway. Oh and then there was the 5th gen that flopped over on Black Bear Pass the first day it opened this past summer. Honestly it's a bad look for 5th gen owners. Almost like everyone drank the overland cool-aid and now you have a bunch of unprepared newbs getting themselves stuck since they wanted to copy XO. Know your limits, don't go alone, if you do go alone have a Sat phone and recovery gear, and stay out of mud.