Tire Balance Question

[jeb]

90 model 4 Runner, are the rims balanced lug centric or hub centric? Reason I ask is that I had a slight out of balance somewhere and after they balanced, it was worse. The place I normally take it changed hands, same machine though. Previous owner did fantastic and smooth job last time. This one doesn't seem to do well.

I thought I had read that 90 model was lug centric, but not sure. They are balancing via hub and wondering if that is the difference. Unless their machine is out. It's a good machine the best Hunter out there, Vibration control system.

 

[Pistonslap]

Your wheels are hub centric and can be balanced perfectly using the cone. You can also use the bolt plate adapter, but it is not necessary. Toyotas are sensitive to imbalance. To get it right, they need properly calibrated equipment and someone who knows how to use it.

 

[jeb]

Your wheels are hub centric and can be balanced perfectly using the cone. You can also use the bolt plate adapter, but it is not necessary. Toyotas are sensitive to imbalance. To get it right, they need properly calibrated equipment and someone who knows how to use it.

Thanks, suspected as much since previous owner did such a good job. Time to hunt another business owner with a good machine. I get so tired of the cliche, "Must be the tires."
Thanks PistonSlap.

 

[TechWrench]

90 model 4 Runner, are the rims balanced lug centric or hub centric? Reason I ask is that I had a slight out of balance somewhere and after they balanced, it was worse. The place I normally take it changed hands, same machine though. Previous owner did fantastic and smooth job last time. This one doesn't seem to do well.

I thought I had read that 90 model was lug centric, but not sure. They are balancing via hub and wondering if that is the difference. Unless their machine is out. It's a good machine the best Hunter out there, Vibration control system.

I believe it depends on the type of wheel and lugnuts you have. If you have steel wheels, you should have conical lugnuts and the wheel is lug centric. If you have alloy wheels with hardened inserts in the lug holes and conical lugnuts it is still lug centric. If you have alloys with straight lug holes and straight shank lugnuts with a shoulder washer, then the wheel is hub centric.

 

[Pistonslap]

All toyota wheels are hub centric. The shank lug nuts are not machined to close enough tolerance to center the wheel. They do help get it close and the washers allow for movement as the wheel tightens against the hub, but the wheels center on the hub, not the lugs.

 

[TechWrench]

All toyota wheels are hub centric. The shank lug nuts are not machined to close enough tolerance to center the wheel. They do help get it close and the washers allow for movement as the wheel tightens against the hub, but the wheels center on the hub, not the lugs.

I believe I did say that the alloy wheels with the 'shank' type lug nuts are hub centric. But I am pretty sure that if you have conical type lug nuts, like the OEM steel wheels, they are lug centric. I have both type wheels for my '03, and the center hub hole on the steel wheels does not fit the hub tightly enough to provide proper mounting alignment. But the my set of alloys, with the different, 'shank' type lug nuts do align on the hub.

 

[Pistonslap]

I believe I did say that the alloy wheels with the 'shank' type lug nuts are hub centric. But I am pretty sure that if you have conical type lug nuts, like the OEM steel wheels, they are lug centric. I have both type wheels for my '03, and the center hub hole on the steel wheels does not fit the hub tightly enough to provide proper mounting alignment. But the my set of alloys, with the different, 'shank' type lug nuts do align on the hub.

Sorry, I read well, I just don't always comprehend.

 

[jeb]

Re: Re: Tire Balance Question

I believe it depends on the type of wheel and lugnuts you have. If you have steel wheels, you should have conical lugnuts and the wheel is lug centric. If you have alloy wheels with hardened inserts in the lug holes and conical lugnuts it is still lug centric. If you have alloys with straight lug holes and straight shank lugnuts with a shoulder washer, then the wheel is hub centric.

I do have the OEM alloy wheels with the latter described lug configuration, so they are hub centric. Just wish the owner of the shop wasn't so eccentric.

Thanks all.

 

[TechWrench]

Sorry, I read well, I just don't always comprehend.

No problem.

 

[TechWrench]

Re: Re: Re: Tire Balance Question

I do have the OEM alloy wheels with the latter described lug configuration, so they are hub centric. Just wish the owner of the shop wasn't so eccentric.

Thanks all.

Good. But it is unfortunate, though not unexpected, that there are 'professionals' out there that don't always know what they speak of...........

Glad to help, when I can.