Toyota Safety Sense for 4runner?
- Thread starter LAMGOESHAM
- Start date
LAMGOESHAM
New member
Very solid points. Seems like the consensus regardless is that it sucks....no regrets with my '18 lol
Matteblack
Member
I hope the new T4Rs don't have it. I've test drove some cars with it and its annoying IMHO. I think good old fashioned defensive/aware driving is everything. Personally, I like that T4Rs don't have all of the new fancy "safety" features. Maybe I'm getting old. :biggrin1:
Jetboy
New member
TSS has been in the Prado 150/GX460 since about 2012. There's no reason it's not completely bug free in a 4Runner. But... Toyota does some very strange things at times that make little sense. Like the existing cruise control - the calibration is not very good and it hasn't changed at all since my 1996 4Runner.
Unfortunately it appears the Toyota models get a dumbed down version of the safety suite. In the Lexus models there's a combination of the radar/laser sensor in the grill and cameras in the upper part of the windshield. It looks like most of the Toyota models only get the radar but not the camera system. So they don't have the ability to do things like read road signs or identify cars vs pedestrians or use complex headlights that keep high beams on most of the time but actively adjust to dim the light that is shined on other drivers.
Unfortunately it appears the Toyota models get a dumbed down version of the safety suite. In the Lexus models there's a combination of the radar/laser sensor in the grill and cameras in the upper part of the windshield. It looks like most of the Toyota models only get the radar but not the camera system. So they don't have the ability to do things like read road signs or identify cars vs pedestrians or use complex headlights that keep high beams on most of the time but actively adjust to dim the light that is shined on other drivers.
TrDpRo_J
New member
Amen! In Florida its hard to get people to even signal but then again its hard to get people to even pay attention these days
mtnbiker49
New member
I'd put a blind spot monitor in long before any of the TSS crap.
nimby
New member
It's a mistake.
The ad says it's a 2018 4Runner.
There are no 2018 4Runners with TSS.
But TSS will be on all 4Runners by 2022 at the latest and I for one look forward to it.
The fact of the matter is that these new safety features save lives. They are tools to use while driving, not autopilot like some are making it out to be.
The ad says it's a 2018 4Runner.
There are no 2018 4Runners with TSS.
But TSS will be on all 4Runners by 2022 at the latest and I for one look forward to it.
The fact of the matter is that these new safety features save lives. They are tools to use while driving, not autopilot like some are making it out to be.
Last edited:
After tons of research, spreadsheets, etc. my wife got a new Outback with all of the bells and whistles, and it convinced me I wanted none of that. It is BAD ASS but I wanted a vehicle that was more friendly to adventures, camping, overlanding, etc. so I got a 2018 ORP. STOKED. I could use so much of the safety stuff but having none of it lets me do what I want.
Daohaus
New member
Yeah Toyota will not add tss to this current truck. It'll come in the 6th gen whenever that comes out. Toyota is making this generation for as long as they can.
I had rear backup avoidance and blind spot on my trd pro Tacoma and it was nice to have and I miss not having it on the t4r
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
I had rear backup avoidance and blind spot on my trd pro Tacoma and it was nice to have and I miss not having it on the t4r
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
Man, that's a LOT of "what abouts." Is everything okay over there? Maybe we should stop progressing technology and just go back to riding on horses because hey, what if a spark plug on that fancy horseless carriage fails?
I get the feeling you aren't quite familiar with the state of the art of automotive technology. Yes, these systems are necessary. How can you argue against ANY safety technology knowing full well that the majority of drivers may not be quite as enthusiastic or skilled at driving as yourself. Since they're using the same roads that you and your family use, why in the world would you NOT want them to have this proven tech in their cars that make the roads safer for YOU? This tech isn't new, it's just hitting the mainstream automakers now. There is zero evidence they have reliability problems. Nobody is forcing you to buy a new car with this tech, so just save a ton of money and keep your old vehicle without these systems if it serves your purpose.
FWIW premium brands have had automatic high beams for almost a decade and have already moved on to laser headlights that block light from shining towards other cars. Ever notice it looks like a lot of german cars seem to have their headlights turned off all the time? They aren't.
Last edited:
Agent_Outside
New member
That’s not even remotely true.
They didn't all give up. My new SUV has them. My girlfriend's Model 3 has them. They're amazing on poorly lit, windy roads (e.g. heading to the mountains) where you want to focus on driving and not on flicking your high beams on and off constantly.
These systems are designed to fail gracefully. If a sensor stops working, the system stops working as though it's not there. It doesn't go crazy and accelerate you to 150 or slam you into a wall. This isn't the 80's. Electronics have come a long way. They are more robust. They are capable of monitoring themselves. The programming behind them is far more intelligent than before.
Would you have maintained your same sentiment when power steering was invented? When anti-lock brakes were invented? When we moved from simple leaf spring suspension to more complicated suspensions? Drive/brake-by-wire? Airbags? The list of innovations that you could have said "but what if it fails? then what? how do you fix it? how does it behave?" about stretches back to the first car. And yet we have all of those things now and, while they occasionally fail from time to time and require service, they are beneficial and work most of the time.
I don't care to have:
- blind spot monitors, but if it keeps someone from changing lanes into me, great!
- auto emergency braking systems, but if it keeps someone from rear-ending me, great!
- radar cruise control, but if it keeps someone a safe distance from me, great!
- lane keep assist, but if it keeps someone from accidentally drifting out of their lane, great!
Despite the added complication and risk of things not working automakers have continued to innovate and add features to vehicles. We're all better off as a result.
Last edited:
J.F. Sebastian
New member
I prefer to drive my wagon and don't want or need a bunch of electronic BS to drive it for me. One of the reasons I love my wheels is it is free from the clutter of all this crap that seems so ubiquitous already in our nanny culture. Beginning to understand why some old people are so damn cranky...
Fingers crossed that sometime very soon those people will be in self-driving cars safely tooting along while the rest of us drive in peace.
The beauty of these systems is that you can turn them off and drive your wagon.
If you're beginning to understand why some old people are so damn cranky it might be because you're turning into one :cowboy:
J.F. Sebastian
New member
The real beauty is that you can buy a decked-out 4Runner without it all to begin with.
Chances are good you're not going to like the 6th gen :shocked:
J.F. Sebastian
New member
Hoping to be off this ship of fools called Earth by the time I need new vehicle, another reason I bought a 4R...
They're putting 2.0L TDI motors in Jeeps now, LOL.
headpaneer
New member
I'm with you! While I feel take driving seriously enough and pay attention to the road and what's going on around me, I don't feel the need for these systems on my vehicles.
However, I do wish the guy who was high on crack that rear ended me at 45 MPH, was driving a van with an auto emergency braking system! GDMFSOB!
