Tranny slow to shift up when cold

GeD

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The last couple of days I noticed my 98 was slow to shift up in gear it doesn't do it very long maybe the first 30 seconds (the colder the longer) I am going to make an appt. tomorrow but any thoughts on what it could be? It runs very well when warm.
 
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That's a normal thing that supposed to happen. It's a factory safety feature in which a sensor on the tranny won't let it shift normally until the engine gets up to temp. O/D will not work at all during the warm-up phase. Don't waste your money taking it to a shop (they'll probably tell you it needs a new tranny, haha!). Just let it warm up a few minutes, it's almost winter!
 
That's a normal thing that supposed to happen. It's a factory safety feature in which a sensor on the tranny won't let it shift normally until the engine gets up to temp. O/D will not work at all during the warm-up phase. Don't waste your money taking it to a shop (they'll probably tell you it needs a new tranny, haha!). Just let it warm up a few minutes, it's almost winter!
HaHa ..I wondered.. I read some vehicles do this I have only owned a 4runner for a month or so. I get so paranoid when I first buy a used vehicle.
 
This is common in pretty much every auto trans. Just the laws of physics again. The seals and valves are not quite sealed until the unit reaches operating temp, goes for engines too. Perfectly normal operation. I wouldn't suggest waiting for the trans to warm up before you drive to work either. That's gonna take a long time rather than the 30 sec it takes while driving. The torque converter makes 90% of the heat in the trans and isn't going to do so unless you driving.
 
You should still warm up the engine before you take off. It will last longer.

Yep on both count: Normal and let it warm up minimum solid 5 mins. Still running and towing over a ton with original, unrepaired auto tranny at 182k+ miles.
 
So you are saying I should let my 4runner ideal for 5 mins before I start driving?

Yes, for cool season temperatures below 40F at least 5 mins minimum. Also if you have not driven your truck for a few days in any temperature. I realize not everyone here is a proponent for engine/tranny warm up but it certainly kept my truck healthy.
 
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Yes, for cool season temperatures below 40F at least 5 mins minimum. I realize not everyone here is a proponent for engine/tranny warm up but it certainly kept my truck healthy. Also if you have not driven your trucks for a few days in any temperature.

So it sounds like your temperature point is arbitrary and the benefits of idling are anecdotal. I'll agree that normal, and especially hard driving, should not take place until the engine is at or near normal operating temp. But stating that 5 minutes of idling helps keep a vehicle healthy or makes the engine last longer is simply not true. It still seems to be a matter of preference, though there are more and more publications that state gentle driving is best for reaching operating temp. My vehicle will idle cold at 1500 rpm. I can let it do that for several minutes, or shift into gear and transfer that energy into forward motion. Think about that.
 
My vehicle will idle cold at 1500 rpm. I can let it do that for several minutes, or shift into gear and transfer that energy into forward motion. Think about that.

I note you're from New Jersey which get's plenty of cold weather as we do up here in central New York. So yes, any and all advice given on forums should not be taken as gospel. We are merely sharing our individual experiences which then enriches collective ideas from which the reader can choose. Having stated my views does it mean I warm up every single time religiously? No, if my truck was used a few hours earlier I just start and go. But in most cases when given a choice, not in rush I like the idea of warming up my engine/tranny fluids at the expense of perhaps half to one gallon a week? Fuel has been wasted on far worse things like being stuck for hours on end in bumper to bumper traffic every single day.
 
This is common in pretty much every auto trans. Just the laws of physics again. The seals and valves are not quite sealed until the unit reaches operating temp, goes for engines too. Perfectly normal operation. I wouldn't suggest waiting for the trans to warm up before you drive to work either. That's gonna take a long time rather than the 30 sec it takes while driving. The torque converter makes 90% of the heat in the trans and isn't going to do so unless you driving.

I just wanted to clarify the trans doesn't shift into 3rd at all until it is warm I haven't own a vehicle that has done that before
 
I just wanted to clarify the trans doesn't shift into 3rd at all until it is warm I haven't own a vehicle that has done that before

It will finally go into 3rd, but you might have to wind it out to do it - and that's definitely not a good idea when it's cold.
 
Ok good, I just re-stated that because the post stated most auto trans do it, none of my previous vehicles wouldn't shift when cold some were slow but none stayed in 2nd. I am not going force it I have no problem with waiting, the truck runs well.
 
I like to think of it this way: When it first wakes up, your truck is kinda grumpy. Give it a few minutes to wake up and have its morning coffee (warm up), and it will be much more pleasant to deal with...

Slow to shift, perfectly normal for all the reasons mentioned. Take it easy on the truck and always let it warm up, and you will be rewarded with a very reliable vehicle for a very long time. Abuse it, especially when cold, and you will start to hear expensive noises in relatively short order, "Toyota reliability" or not!
 
I like to think of it this way: When it first wakes up, your truck is kinda grumpy. Give it a few minutes to wake up and have its morning coffee (warm up), and it will be much more pleasant to deal with...

Slow to shift, perfectly normal for all the reasons mentioned. Take it easy on the truck and always let it warm up, and you will be rewarded with a very reliable vehicle for a very long time. Abuse it, especially when cold, and you will start to hear expensive noises in relatively short order, "Toyota reliability" or not!

Well in those terms it doesn't take very long at all I take much longer to warm up
 
We just started getting cool weather here in Texas and I also noticed the delayed 2nd to 3rd shift from a cold start.... good thing i read this post. Thanks
 

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