Trans wiring issue?

danronian

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2004 4Runner SR5 V8 w/115k miles, Northern VA car

This past spring and summer I noticed that when the trans was shifting into 5th, when I let off the gas, the RPMs would spike about 500 rpm before shifting into 5th. Not knowing anything about these transmissions, I dropped it off at a recommended trans repair shop in Fredericksburg, VA (Superior Transmission).

The shop eventually got the car to reproduce the symptom. They did some diagnosing then recommended to drop the pan to look deeper. I agreed. They dropped the pan and reported there was "debris" in the pan. Based on the symptom and the fluid condition, they recommended a rebuild. I agreed.

After I got the truck back the SAME symptom came back. The truck went back to the shop where they took it apart again, then they did a shift kit on the valve body which didn't fix it, then they rebuilt it a second time, then they bought a different used trans, rebuilt that (thinking it was a case issue), and then it still showed the same symptom again. They took the truck to the local Toyota dealer for a diagnosis.

The dealer noticed that the fluid was the wrong type and that there was some corrosion of some trans connectors. The dealer fixed the corroded plugs and the trans shop flushed out the old fluid and added Toyota WS. They then reset the shift points.

I drove it this week for 3 days. The first 2 days there was a minor spike in RPMs just a couple times when going into 5th. By the third day, once the trans was warm, it was doing the spike in RPMs for 5th more consistently again (only when letting off while the car up shfits). Since the first rebuild, the trans also shakes at certain speeds. Right now it has a shake between 35-60 MPH.

The trans shop doesn't know what to do. They said they would honor the warranty when it fails again, but they don't know why it's shifting improperly. The dealer mechanic who rode with me and did the work on it also didn't see an obvious problem from driving it and doing his own diagnostics.

My guess is it could be the trans and/or engine wiring. Has anyone had an issue like this and if so, could you help me with some tips on dealing with this?

Cliff notes: Trans revved before going into 5th, trans rebuilt three times, trans still revs going into 5th, trans shop doesn't know why and Toyota isn't sure either, is wiring to blame?
 
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Still nothing else is wrong with the truck other than this rev going into 5th. Any insight into possible solutions? The more I thought about it, and from looking for corrosion at the connections, the less I think it’s wiring related.


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I had a very similar issue on my '03, only after the spike it would SLAM into 5th. The plug had a couple of pins that had corroded away completely. Check the plug from the shifter.

Good luck!
 
I had a very similar issue on my '03, only after the spike it would SLAM into 5th. The plug had a couple of pins that had corroded away completely. Check the plug from the shifter.



Good luck!



I didn’t check the terminal on the shifter wiring inside the car. I’ll do that. I was looking for the harness plugs on the trans for corrosion but I didn’t see any there.


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Hopefully tomorrow I’ll get to pulling the center console apart to check that connector. I’m still curious to see if anyone else has had similar issues. Or if anyone has had shifting issues similar to mine caused by another external component I could troubleshoot.


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I pulled out the console and checked the connections for the shifter. No corrosion there but I did liberally clean everything with an electronics connector cleaner. After the trans warmed up the same spike in Rpms occurred when the trans goes into fifth under partial throttle.

That said, I think I notice less “clunking” into 5th and generally smoother up shifts since I cleaned the shifter. I could tell numerous drinks had been spilled through it so I used a lot of electronics cleaner on it. Once I put more miles on it I’ll have a better idea if this is perceived or an actual change.

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