transmission temps to the moon - what do I check?

This is all good info. I have a question though. Last weekend I had to take a detour due to a fire and ended up going through a town with very steep grades. I was on asphalt, stop & go traffic. I watched my trans temp go up to 233. I’ve never seen it get that high before. Since I’m on asphalt should I have put it in in 1st and stay in 2wd?
 
You guys ever think about adding a manual TCC lock up switch? That would stop the heat buildup in its tracks.

The Cummins Rams from 94-01 used this mod because of the loose factory torque converter. (80% of available torque at 2000rpm)

I came up with a circuit that would latch in pushing a button and would turn itself off when you hit the brakes.


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You guys ever think about adding a manual TCC lock up switch? That would stop the heat buildup in its tracks.

The Cummins Rams from 94-01 used this mod because of the loose factory torque converter. (80% of available torque at 2000rpm)

I came up with a circuit that would latch in pushing a button and would turn itself off when you hit the brakes.


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My 700R4 came with a manual switch that I have yet to install. Thanks easiest way to accomplish this on a 4runner is to turn OD off

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My 700R4 came with a manual switch that I have yet to install. Thanks easiest way to accomplish this on a 4runner is to turn OD off

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That will eliminate some of the torque converter flashing that creates the heat but the manual lockup will make it all go away and act like a manual trans.


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This is all good info. I have a question though. Last weekend I had to take a detour due to a fire and ended up going through a town with very steep grades. I was on asphalt, stop & go traffic. I watched my trans temp go up to 233. I’ve never seen it get that high before. Since I’m on asphalt should I have put it in in 1st and stay in 2wd?

If you are on asphalt then keep it 2wd. Use lower gears like 1st and 2nd to keep the rpms say 2500-4000 vs 1500 while you climb for more than 5-10 straight minutes. Higher RPMs = more coolant cycling through the engine as the RPMs go up. You should notice the water temp drop and that will help cool the transmission as well.

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OP, it's my educated guess there's absolutely nothing wrong with your trans cooling system. The problem stems from you using 4Hi for a long extended climb. I monitor my trans temp via a Bluetooth reader sending info to my Torque Pro app on my Android phone. I recently took my rig wheeling with [MENTION=148218]JZiggy[/MENTION] (aka Jordan) in the hills above the California Coast near Big Sur. The climbs were steep and sustained. At first, I had my rig in 2Hi because the terrain was mellow and didn't think I needed 4Lo. I was watching my trans temp rise, and when it got to around 230, I pulled over to let my trans cool down. We started off again and the temps spiked again. Jordan asked me if I was in 4Hi or 4Lo. I said 4Hi and he suggested I try 4Lo. Man, what a difference. After switching to 4Lo, my trans temps never got above 170.

This was an important lesson to learn about 4wheeling with an automatic transmission. I never knew the difference in the trans temp would be so dramatic between 4Hi and 4Lo. My previous 4wheeling experience had been with a manual transmission. There's probably a lot of people who've overheated their automatic transmission while 4wheeling but they didn't necessarily know it because the "idiot" light didn't light up on the dash. I think these dash lights were affectionately named "Idiot Lights" because the light is telling you, "Hey Idiot, you've got a problem. Stop!" Like others have mentioned, the light comes on around 300 degrees and that basically means you should stop and not drive anymore because your fluid is cooked.

So, #1, it's important to monitor your trans temp. If you have a 96-98 and can't pull trans temp info via a scan gauge or Bluetooth reader, install an aftermarket gauge. If you have a 99-02, definitely invest in either a scan gauge tool or Bluetooth reader sending info to an app like Torque Pro. #2, use 4Lo when climbing sustained grades off-road. Your transmission will thank you.

Thanks for your response. I am monitoring, but having some issues with the trans temp #2 reporting consistently to my tablet. Everything else seems fine. Only requires me to restart the tablet, but will get it sorted soon. I'll be using your video as a guideline for the transmission cooler and the subsequent flush.

And you're right, I think the big thing here is knowledge about wheeling/overlanding with an automatic transmission and monitoring those temps to your advantage.

Thanks!
 
If you are on asphalt then keep it 2wd. Use lower gears like 1st and 2nd to keep the rpms say 2500-4000 vs 1500 while you climb for more than 5-10 straight minutes. Higher RPMs = more coolant cycling through the engine as the RPMs go up. You should notice the water temp drop and that will help cool the transmission as well.

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Great, thanks for the info!
 
FWIW I found my AT stays cooler in L than 2 or D when wheeling, I don't have Lo range yet but soon : D

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This is driving on the freeway in a102° ambient temperature with overdrive on
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the trans temp would normally start to worry me but that was after a mild uphill and 10 seconds after I took that picture my transmission was 188 degrees
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I forgot how hot stock engines run :eek:

My temps on the freeway in the summer are around 178-180. Is the stock thermostat rated at 180 or 190?
 

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