Brush is not a Florida thing. Other states in the US have it too. If you're driving thru brush that's large enough to break your headlights, you're doing it wrong.
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Brush is not a Florida thing. Other states in the US have it too. If you're driving thru brush that's large enough to break your headlights, you're doing it wrong.
ECUDrummer
New member
Some of y'all are a bit ridiculous. He could have just kept it stock and bragged about having a TRDP. I thought this was a place that encouraged custom work, not a place that had to approve custom work first?
1engineer
Moderator
Being serious for a minute...
If you want some ideas on your brush guard here you go: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/gallery/101915-qs-2011-limited-build.html#post909514
Back in the day there was a member named QJake who put one on his LE and it looked really good. Being realistic they really are only there for looks and an occasional weed to brush away but this guy should give you a few ideas.
KodeRush
New member
Summon [MENTION=66316]1engineer[/MENTION], do you mind explaining how a brush guard multiplies damage? Many people religiously believe in this. I always see these guards on police cars, which are prone to have higher chance of impact.
KodeRush
New member
Thank you. I always think brush guard is more of a damage spreader, not a multiplier.
I'm thinking of a scenario that if the brush guard hit a tree right in the front, it may spread the damage to the hood, head lights, bumper, grill, etc. If without brush guard, the impact may concentrate on the grill and damage the radiator, which is a more crucial part of the vehicle.
MinecraftGriefer
New member
Not sure why so many people are hating it, because I love it! I think it looks perfect on the 4runner.
1engineer
Moderator
No problem. Your vehicle in stock configuration is designed to "crumple" or collapse in the event of an accident. Let me give you an example:
Stock:
Let's say you hit something at 10 mph with your bumper. What will be damaged? Well, your bumper cover, your inner bumper reinforcement, maybe a fog lamp and the lower grille.
With grille guard:
Same impact as above but due to the A) mounting points and B) thin material of the grille guard this impact will, in addition to the above damage, bend back and damage the hood, top grille, fenders, headlight, etc. Since it covers a larger front area it will just bend back and break or dent things that would not be damaged if you just had the stock bumper.
The grille guard would be fine for keeping twigs or brush from hitting the front of the vehicle. Any real impact beyond a few mph will render it useless. Police vehicles use them for pushing which is quite different than an impact.
DEERUNNER
Member
These guards are hardly the sort put on police cars. These are nowhere near the toughness and build quality. They are called damage enhancers or damage multipliers because that is what they do. Catch the corner of a tree on a tight trail (or your garage) and they push back easily and dent and break what is near. They are mostly for show and are added for a certain look. The section around the head lights is easily pushed back. They may be able to push aside a branch but that branch is still going to earn you pinstripes. They are of universal fit design, attach with thin brackets, and make most vehicles look silly.
KodeRush
New member
Thanks [MENTION=66316]1engineer[/MENTION], I kinda get it. In a small impact, the stock bumper is supposed to take the hit, but with the brush guard, the impact "bypasses" the stock bumper and hit something else, like hood, headlights, etc. You may end up having a still intact front bumper, but your hood and lights are damaged.
codyHTX
Member
i used to have a Frontier on my tahoe, and as aesthetics go i think it looks pretty cool on the OP's inferno!
but out of curiosity, what are you thoughts on guard vs no guard in a combined 60mph head-on type of collision with another SUV? moot point?
the low speed example makes perfect sense and i've seen it happen to my sister's old explorer
ProspectiveBuyer
New member
Your insurance company is going to love you for installing this contraption. Perfect excuse for not covering damage.
1engineer
Moderator
High speed the grill guard does not matter one bit. We could debate the merits of a ARB bumper but at 60 mph into a wall even that will offer no additional protection because the crumple zones at that speed is the frame of the vehicle.
Antman
Elite Member
True about the police car's bullbar.
When I had a Jeep TJ I was driving around in a hellacious snow storm around 3 am and a State Cop was trying to drive his Crown Vic up this loooong hill on Rt 1...sideways.
I asked him if he needed help and ended up pulling him all the way to his barracks with a tow strap through the bullbar. That thing was solid.
Poor officer said he was going to buy a Heep before next winter, lol.
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Intruder
New member
Damage multiplier refers to the $ amount of the damage. It doesn't mean that it will necessarily increase the amount of damage to the area that was hit. So yeah, when the damage is spread from the impact it multiplies the locations and the cost.
Correct in regards to a two point attachment Westin Grill Guard. Incorrect in regards to a full bumper ranch hand replacement grill guard or 4 point frame attachment ranch hand grill guard. First hand experience in a 2011 Chevy Silverado, the ranch hand grill guard and its bars "caught" the deer ILO it "sliding up" my front end and impacting my windshield at 80 MPH. As an FYI I pulled the deer to the side of the road and drove on to my hunting destination. The truck did have some damage, but drove on with the hood intact.
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I think it is just for looks as you say. Not everyone wants to cut off their nice new bumper for a ARB unit. It's not meant to save you in a accident - it's just there for looks. I think it looks nice.
