TRD Pro vs old Trail

[blksubykid]

If you buy a 2023 the TRD pro will have Entune 3.0 and CarPlay, heated steering wheel, front camera… what am I missing?

Did the old Trails have crawl control?


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Multi terrain select, crawl control, ATRAC, and rear locker. I also have KDSS

 

[blksubykid]

I just looked at the old girl and noticed it's leaning more prominently than I remember. (Edit: it's .5" higher on Drivers side rear, and .25" higher on DF.) I hope the KDSS isn't going out! (Any advice here would be welcome!)

Some people experience KDSS lean. I did but I accounted for it by adjusting the preload on my Kings and put a 10mm spacer in the rear. I suggest pulling off the KDSS accumulator shield under the driver door and cleaning from time to time. It can get caked up with dirt, mud, and junk and cause it to rust and fail

 

[RobS10]

I upgraded from 2010 SR5 to 2022 Trd Offroad. I got new fancy dashboard, push start button, big screen rear and front cameras with panoramic view (sort of grainy, but useable), auto lights, auto high beams, bunch of electronic assists like bling spot check, collision detection and adaptive cruise control. A little better radio and built-in GPS and 110v outlet in the trunk. 2022 4Runner can be accessed from the Internet via Toyota app and record your driving habits and GPS locations, but rumors are that it can be turned off by calling Toyota or pulling a fuse. I got remote start from app and from keyfob as well. That's all I can remember.

From all that new stuff I found really useful new cameras panoramic view - it helps parking between white lines. And cameras of course are better than my old rear camera in rear window, but not really useable offroad due to bad resolution. Well, sort of useful but not for much. For other stuff - I can live without it.


With SR5 I didn't get KDSS and rear locker, but you have it in 2012 Trail. I didn't go for TRD Pro mostly because it has roof rack not compatible with carrying canoe and sound system eliminates some space in the trunk. I think TRD PRo doesn't have KDSS, I found that KDSS is nice - it feels a little firmer on road, but I was fine without KDSS. I didn't see much difference offroad, maybe just didn't get in a spot when it really matters though.

We have a 2022 TRD ORP, and from all the research I did, the TRD ORP is not capable of Remote Start/Toyota Remote Connect, only the LTD and Pro models have the wireless module to do that. Did the dealer somehow add that after the vehicle was delivered?

 

[scanny]

We have a 2022 TRD ORP, and from all the research I did, the TRD ORP is not capable of Remote Start/Toyota Remote Connect, only the LTD and Pro models have the wireless module to do that. Did the dealer somehow add that after the vehicle was delivered?

I thought all 2022 have DCM module but I have 2022 TRD Offroad Canadian Edition, so maybe it's different from US version. My T4R has Remote Connect app, dealer helper to register app with Toyota, I had to press SOS button and Toyota representative sent me the code to activate app. But it's only free for a year and personally I don't really like that all my driving GPS tracks are available over the Internet and my truck could be shut down, started up, locked or unlocked from the Internet. I think I cancel remote services, maybe disconnect antenna or pull the fuse after free trial is over.

 

[RobS10]

I thought all 2022 have DCM module but I have 2022 TRD Offroad Canadian Edition, so maybe it's different from US version. My T4R has Remote Connect app, dealer helper to register app with Toyota, I had to press SOS button and Toyota representative sent me the code to activate app. But it's only free for a year and personally I don't really like that all my driving GPS tracks are available over the Internet and my truck could be shut down, started up, locked or unlocked from the Internet. I think I cancel remote services, maybe disconnect antenna or pull the fuse after free trial is over.

I think Canadian 4Runners come with slightly different options, like the heated steering wheel that you can now get in the U.S., finally. The U.S. website had a chart somewhere that showed all the features available on each trim. Remote Start and Remote Connect (that has all the features that track your location, Remote User, and other remote functions like locking doors) were not even available on a one year Trial...seems stupid of Toyota to not offer it since it would be more reoccurring revenue for them.

 

[Bomba]

never underestimate the new car hit factor

 

[scanny]

I think Canadian 4Runners come with slightly different options, like the heated steering wheel that you can now get in the U.S., finally. The U.S. website had a chart somewhere that showed all the features available on each trim. Remote Start and Remote Connect (that has all the features that track your location, Remote User, and other remote functions like locking doors) were not even available on a one year Trial...seems stupid of Toyota to not offer it since it would be more reoccurring revenue for them.

No heated steering wheel in my truck unfortunately. it's a really useful thing though, I would have it for instead of push button start, collision assist or blind spot mirror lights.

 

[TrailPJ]

My 2010 Trail has remote start and I had them program the remote to roll down all the windows too.
Got the list of programmable options from this post:
Extra programmable features

 

[RobS10]

My 2010 Trail has remote start and I had them program the remote to roll down all the windows too.
Got the list of programmable options from this post:
Extra programmable features

Did the dealer charge you? Our dealer wanted $125 to program ours, so I bought Carista OBD2 dongle that works with their smart phone app that allows you to do that and a bunch of other customizations. $30 with a one month free trial of the app, well worth it. Simple to do, and safe .
Click on the Customizations tab for a sample of what you can do...
Toyota 4Runner 5th gen | Carista OBD2 supported vehicles | See what’s available for your car - Carista

 

[Turfboy]

My favorite KDSS lean fix site.

KDSS Balance and fixing a KDSS lean - Project 200

I happened to see the 2023 comparison between the Lexus 600, T4r and Tundra. The possibility of a hybrid on the T4r has me intrigued if it is close to what the did on the Tundra.

Maintenance projects are just upgrade projects in disguise ound:

 

[slovan]

I am leaning towards TRD Pro with blackout package and doing an aftermarket 2.5" lift.

Here's mine with a Westcott Designs lift. I don't think you can go wrong either way. If you enjoy the creature comforts, updated tech and have plans to keep it for 10+ years, I would go with a newer model.

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[ESPDTRD12]

I was on the same dilemma a few years back and decided to keep my 2012 Trail w/KDSS. Newer TRD PRO's as others have stated do have a little bit more tech and nicer upgraded interior but I love my TE as it has been the best vehicle i have ever owned. I have owned my TE for 10 years and still running strong. Really, the only thing i wish my TE had was a nicer steering wheel and upgraded lights which i am planning on swapping out soon. Prices are really steep for a TRD PRO and I cannot justify the extra money for almost the same vehicle. Do what you will be happy with and live with it for many years. Good luck on your decision!

 

[tls3601]

Probably an unpopular opinion but I am not a fan of KDSS on or off-road. Overly stiff on pavement and limits your options to upgrade suspension. However I loved the look of the the old Trail, understated elegance in my opinion and I own a ‘19 Pro.

 

[fishman]

If it were me would keep the early TE. I prefer driving my 2012 over my 2017 Pro. I looked into swapping the 17 for a new 23 but the TE will die with me as the only owner.

 

[jazzyfunkykool]

Well, 3 years later and many temptations, but I still have the 2012. I jsut passed on a 2023 GX 470 with 2" icon lift. It was super nice, but I missed my old Trail.

If it were me would keep the early TE. I prefer driving my 2012 over my 2017 Pro. I looked into swapping the 17 for a new 23 but the TE will die with me as the only owner.