Treadwright cracking issues?

[Arnezie]

How much money do you save with retreads ?

 

[T4R2014]

They still shouldn't have big cracks like that. You can buy some no-name M/T's for cheap at Discount Tire. At least you will be getting something new and customer service won't be crap for when something goes wrong. You get what you pay for.

 

[JayRolla]

How much money do you save with retreads ?

I got my Bead to Beads from them for $144/each, muds 33" tires. They are fully wrapped so you dont see the old tire. Shipping was around $55 for all 4. Here are some pics of my bead to bead new, and a pic of them over a year old. The inside is worn a little more than the outside but this can happen to new muds also. They are doing really well and have lots of tread left. I also drive about 15-20k miles per year on this beast.

 

[JamesDean91]

So in reality you saved about 200 or so.. Sounds like a bad deal to me..

 

[JayRolla]

So in reality you saved about 200 or so.. Sounds like a bad deal to me..

Yea its a real bad deal, to save $200 on tires that work just as good. They can last up to 30k miles which is about right for mud tires. I still dont see how saving $200 is a bad deal? Am I missing something here?

 

[thebrandon]

If you do a quick google search you can see it's a pretty common thing with this brand, and re-treads in general. Take a drive down the freeway, all the semi tires you see on the side of the road are generally just re-treads that separated from the carcass. Same deal with these. I think these are great tires for a great price, but not for an every day driver.

 

[JamesDean91]

Yea its a real bad deal, to save $200 on tires that work just as good. They can last up to 30k miles which is about right for mud tires. I still dont see how saving $200 is a bad deal? Am I missing something here?

Because for 200 more I can get a very reputable tire that comes with lifetime mount balance rotation and flat repair. iv already slashed a tire wheeling and got it replaced for free. Dont think treadwright would do that..

 

[BrandonF]

If you do a quick google search you can see it's a pretty common thing with this brand, and re-treads in general. Take a drive down the freeway, all the semi tires you see on the side of the road are generally just re-treads that separated from the carcass. Same deal with these. I think these are great tires for a great price, but not for an every day driver.

Yes, these are recaps you see on the side of the highway, which are simply a new tread glued onto the tire carcass. Much different than retreads, which are produced in the same way as any new tire.

 

[JayRolla]

If you do a quick google search you can see it's a pretty common thing with this brand, and re-treads in general. Take a drive down the freeway, all the semi tires you see on the side of the road are generally just re-treads that separated from the carcass. Same deal with these. I think these are great tires for a great price, but not for an every day driver.

Its way more common on semis because they run multiple tires on the axles meaning they run there retreads for as many miles as they can till they blow. This saves them money and when they need traction they put on snow chains. I managed a truck stop for a few years when I was young and know they would run them 100k miles if they could. That is why you see carcasses on the road sometimes.

 

[Kryptoroxx]

Because for 200 more I can get a very reputable tire that comes with lifetime mount balance rotation and flat repair. iv already slashed a tire wheeling and got it replaced for free. Dont think treadwright would do that..

Where do you get your goodyear mtr tires for less than 300 a tire? Because thats what the big dog tread is a replica of.....and it does a good job of it. Tough tire with great traction even without airing down. Drove them at highway speeds plenty of times and made a nice hum....but no blowouts.

I also know if you are honest with a warranty that a tire shop would not honor a slash coming from offroading. So if you want to lie to get free tires thats on you man. I personally won't betray my honor for getting a free tire.

More to the topic I got a few small cracks on the sidewall. No biggie. The sidewall on those things is a class d if I remember right so its pretty thick. Overall a great tire. Loved the grip!

 

[02SE]

Yes, these are recaps you see on the side of the highway, which are simply a new tread glued onto the tire carcass. Much different than retreads, which are produced in the same way as any new tire.

Retreads are new rubber glued to an old carcass. They are not the same thing as an all-new tire. Recap, Retread, and Remold all mean the same thing.

They are fully wrapped so you dont see the old tire.

But nevertheless, the old deteriorated carcass that was ready to be shredded and recycled is still there, just waiting to come apart at the most inopportune time. Like cruising down the highway on a hot summer day, with the family in the vehicle.

Like this: Our New Land Cruiser Saved Our Lives | IH8MUD Forum

 

[JayRolla]

Retreads are new rubber glued to an old carcass. They are not the same thing as an all-new tire. Recap, Retread, and Remold all mean the same thing.




But nevertheless, the old deteriorated carcass that was ready to be shredded and recycled is still there, just waiting to come apart at the most inopportune time. Like cruising down the highway on a hot summer day, with the family in the vehicle.

Like this: Our New Land Cruiser Saved Our Lives | IH8MUD Forum

Most retread tires are inspected more than a new tire that has sat in a warehouse for years before you get them on your truck. In some cases they can take up too 5 years before they hit your truck. At least retreads are inpected three times before they are sent out and sometimes can be safer.

Funny because I remember that when tires where blowing out on firestones they did tests where they ran an suv to 85mph and would blow the tire and they showed if you slowly slow down you have no problem. Issue is people get scared and yank on the wheel. I have blown a tire on the highway. No reason to roll over.

 

[02SE]

Most retread tires are inspected more than a new tire that has sat in a warehouse for years before you get them on your truck. In some cases they can take up too 5 years before they hit your truck. At least retreads are inpected three times before they are sent out and sometimes can be safer.

Funny because I remember that when tires where blowing out on firestones they did tests where they ran an suv to 85mph and would blow the tire and they showed if you slowly slow down you have no problem. Issue is people get scared and yank on the wheel. I have blown a tire on the highway. No reason to roll over.

I always check the date code on tires before I buy them. I wouldn't buy a tire that had sat in a warehouse for 5 years. In fact I won't buy a tire that was made more than 1 year prior to my buying it. Because all tires start to slowly deteriorate from the moment they come out of the mold.

Consider a tire destined to be a Retread. It might be on the road for 5 years, hitting potholes, having punctures patched, the rubber compounds slowly becoming hard and therefore less pliable, etc. before it's original tread is worn out, and then sent to Treadwright to have some new tread glued onto that old carcass. I've seen on this forum people that received their "New Treadwrights" with several patches in the old carcass.

If I absolutely had to choose, I'd rather have a "new" tire that sat in a warehouse for 5 years, vs one that was used and abused and is far more deteriorated, before it had some new tread glued onto it.

As far as the Ford Explorer Firestone deal, that was mostly a too-low tire inflation spec to begin with by Ford, coupled with owner tire inflation neglect, resulting in dangerously under-inflated tires blowing out.

 

[JamesDean91]

Where do you get your goodyear mtr tires for less than 300 a tire? Because thats what the big dog tread is a replica of.....and it does a good job of it. Tough tire with great traction even without airing down. Drove them at highway speeds plenty of times and made a nice hum....but no blowouts.

I also know if you are honest with a warranty that a tire shop would not honor a slash coming from offroading. So if you want to lie to get free tires thats on you man. I personally won't betray my honor for getting a free tire.

More to the topic I got a few small cracks on the sidewall. No biggie. The sidewall on those things is a class d if I remember right so its pretty thick. Overall a great tire. Loved the grip!

Americas tire does honor offroad slash and any damage for that matter, and I don't run MTR but I did hook my buddy up with 35" kevlars with everything for under 1g actually I can show you a receipt for his tires and everyone else I've hooked up for under $800 with certs and install.

 

[Kryptoroxx]

I find that hard to believe since it is a road hazard.....not trail hazard.

I will stick with treadwright. I have had better experiences with them than MTRs bajas or mtr w/ kevlars

 

[JayRolla]

I always check the date code on tires before I buy them. I wouldn't buy a tire that had sat in a warehouse for 5 years. In fact I won't buy a tire that was made more than 1 year prior to my buying it. Because all tires start to slowly deteriorate from the moment they come out of the mold.

Consider a tire destined to be a Retread. It might be on the road for 5 years, hitting potholes, having punctures patched, the rubber compounds slowly becoming hard and therefore less pliable, etc. before it's original tread is worn out, and then sent to Treadwright to have some new tread glued onto that old carcass. I've seen on this forum people that received their "New Treadwrights" with several patches in the old carcass.

If I absolutely had to choose, I'd rather have a "new" tire that sat in a warehouse for 5 years, vs one that was used and abused and is far more deteriorated, before it had some new tread glued onto it.

As far as the Ford Explorer Firestone deal, that was mostly a too-low tire inflation spec to begin with by Ford, coupled with owner tire inflation neglect, resulting in dangerously under-inflated tires blowing out.

After all the stuff you say, the retreads still work just as good as any other tire on the road and they are not any more dangerous than a new tire. Not to mention they full wrap the tire, not just glue some tread on.

 

[T4R2014]

You may have just gotten lucky and got a good set with good carcasses. From what I have read it seems like their quality is inconsistent and their customer service sucks. FWIW, you can buy some brand new off-brand M/T's in the 285 variety from DTD for around $60 more than a set of retreads. That is not including any of the rebates which DTD puts out quite often. You can go to a DT store if there is any trouble.

 

[Brilliant]

i had a set, they came in slashed to the cords, huge hassle to return them. Sold them because they rode like shit.

Not worth the 'savings'

 

[02SE]

After all the stuff you say, the retreads still work just as good as any other tire on the road and they are not any more dangerous than a new tire. Not to mention they full wrap the tire, not just glue some tread on.

I wish you nothing but the best of luck with your old, worn out carcasses, with new rubber glued onto them.

 

[BrandonF]

Well this has turned into another thread full of ignorant people bashing a product they have never used in their life.

My treadwrights have been good except for the unexplained uneven tread wear. When I purchased the tires, the customer service was great. Now, I've been trying time and time again to contact them about my problem with absolutely no response. The way that they handle my complaint in the end will decide whether I buy from them again or not.

Did you see what I did there? I evaluated a product based on MY experience. If you think about it really hard, it does make sense, doesn't it?