TUNE for 2015 TRD PRO?

TRUSTYAXE

TRUSTYAXE

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Well I've always wanted a Toyota and in late 2014 I was blessed with an ultra white TRD PRO 4Runner. At just under 30k miles she runs like new and I have not had any problems whatsoever.
I am starting to see various sites promoting super chip type programmers and I'm wondering if anyone has had any positive results with these things?
So far the only tempting horsepower mods I see are the TRD CAI that gains you 5 ponys and 20lbs of torque according to a youtube dyno video, and the Borla cat back exhaust.
My truck drives fine and I'm not trying to race corvettes, I'm just curious to see if anyone on here has found a good way to wake up the 4.0 a little.:lookout:
 
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No programming available... Its locked up and encrypted....No tuning software available......

If you want it to feel better there is the sprint booster, which just gets rid of the crappy non linear throttle map that Toyota programmed in...It won't improve actual performance, but the perception is much improved.
 
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Thank you for the info, where would I find a sprint booster for a 4rnr? I looked on their site but it's not listed. Has anyone else tried it?
 
TRUSTYAXE said:
Thank you for the info, where would I find a sprint booster for a 4rnr? I looked on their site but it's not listed. Has anyone else tried it?
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I googled it and found it right away for the T4R.

Yes, quite a few of us have it, and like it.

Search the forums and you will find a thread titled Sprint Booster
 
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TRUSTYAXE said:
Thank you for the info, where would I find a sprint booster for a 4rnr? I looked on their site but it's not listed. Has anyone else tried it?
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I have it and love it. Sure it's not really improving speed, but it feels like it. If Toyota programmed the curve this way out of the factory you wouldn't hear too many complaints about lack of speed, power, responsiveness, etc etc
 
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Do you guys have the V2 or V3 sprint booster? I just noticed this today..
http://www.sprintboostersales.com/Toyota_4Runner?sc1=1327
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I clicked the link for giggles, the differences are extra "acceleration modes" and few other things in the last few bullets. Looks like both will (work)

Side note, You really want to spend almost $300 bucks on something that will not change the output of the engine? I don't follow the logic that this makes a bit of difference, a 4runner with and one without will perform the exact same in all situations only difference being the physical movement of the gas pedal....I assume this is something folks would adapt to, similar to driving a stick, some clutches have long engagement strokes other short. Once you have it for a week you don't even notice.

Report back what you think
 
Engineer said:
I clicked the link for giggles, the differences are extra "acceleration modes" and few other things in the last few bullets. Looks like both will (work)

Side note, You really want to spend almost $300 bucks on something that will not change the output of the engine? I don't follow the logic that this makes a bit of difference, a 4runner with and one without will perform the exact same in all situations only difference being the physical movement of the gas pedal....I assume this is something folks would adapt to, similar to driving a stick, some clutches have long engagement strokes other short. Once you have it for a week you don't even notice.

Report back what you think
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From one engineer to another... don't argue. It's a waste of time. Apparently we just think differently than other people. I believe the exact same thing as you and even though the 0-60 times are identical apparently the "feel" is what is worth the $300.
 
Engineer said:
I clicked the link for giggles, the differences are extra "acceleration modes" and few other things in the last few bullets. Looks like both will (work)

Side note, You really want to spend almost $300 bucks on something that will not change the output of the engine? I don't follow the logic that this makes a bit of difference, a 4runner with and one without will perform the exact same in all situations only difference being the physical movement of the gas pedal....I assume this is something folks would adapt to, similar to driving a stick, some clutches have long engagement strokes other short. Once you have it for a week you don't even notice.

Report back what you think
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[MENTION=96008]Engineer[/MENTION],

You ought to get one, run it for 20 days and then come back and tell us it doesn't make any difference.

If you don't like it (which you will), send it back and get all of your money back. You have a 30 day return.
 
1engineer said:
From one engineer to another... don't argue. It's a waste of time. Apparently we just think differently than other people. I believe the exact same thing as you and even though the 0-60 times are identical apparently the "feel" is what is worth the $300.
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[MENTION=66316]1engineer[/MENTION] / Greg,

Most of us know it doesn't change your 0-60 any, the video and documents state that for those whom own the SB.

It is the feel that will convince.
Remember when I posted a long time back stating how my FJ throttle response was so much more responsive than the T4R, even though they have the same engine...?

That's the feeling it gives.
 
Engineer said:
I clicked the link for giggles, the differences are extra "acceleration modes" and few other things in the last few bullets. Looks like both will (work)

Side note, You really want to spend almost $300 bucks on something that will not change the output of the engine? I don't follow the logic that this makes a bit of difference, a 4runner with and one without will perform the exact same in all situations only difference being the physical movement of the gas pedal....I assume this is something folks would adapt to, similar to driving a stick, some clutches have long engagement strokes other short. Once you have it for a week you don't even notice.

Report back what you think
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Thanks for the input guys, but the difference is obvious. I'm asking if anyone has what appears to be a new version that is more compact in design. I'm wondering if this keeps the wire harness a little further from the pipes above the pedal.
It also has V3 listed for a 2.0L? I've contacted customer service to see if this is just a typo.
 
Saker said:
[MENTION=96008]Engineer[/MENTION],

You ought to get one, run it for 20 days and then come back and tell us it doesn't make any difference.

If you don't like it (which you will), send it back and get all of your money back. You have a 30 day return.
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[MENTION=66316]1engineer[/MENTION] is right, I don't want to argue with anyone here , open discussion I am all for, so below are more of my thoughts/ramblings

You are right 1st hand experience would be the best thing to do but not happening. I know it has no effect on the output or performance of the 4runner and am not willing to pay for a perceived difference or an acceleration mode that does not change real world acceleration. Just because alcohol makes you feel warmer doesn’t mean it changes your body temp

I am not arguing on the value of these, I have spent plenty of money for products that others don’t see the value in. But the OP, or anyone reading this in the future should know what they are buying and what it actually does. If folks start saying that it changed the performance of the 4runner, well then I will argue (to my knowledge no one has). If a product changes the power output trend of the engine or changes the transmission shift points then sign me up

I think to get the difference the OP is after the best option would be Re-gearing (granted much more $$$) but in reality we all know we didn’t buy sports cars so at some points it’s a losing battle. I don’t think my throttle gets used over 30% for 99.99% of my driving habits but then again I drive like an old man on his way to church

In my head the question I ask is, is this product any different than pushing down on the skinny pedal more, I think the answer is no. (Could be wrong, been once or twice) If that’s the case the 4Runner will drive, shift and accelerate the exact same if you just pushed down 20% more or whatever the adjustment the box is giving.

:boxing::kiss:
 
Engineer said:
[MENTION=66316]1engineer[/MENTION] is right, I don't want to argue with anyone here , open discussion I am all for, so below are more of my thoughts/ramblings

In my head the question I ask is, is this product any different than pushing down on the skinny pedal more, I think the answer is no. (Could be wrong, been once or twice) If that’s the case the 4Runner will drive, shift and accelerate the exact same if you just pushed down 20% more or whatever the adjustment the box is giving.

:boxing::kiss:
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I don't have the product but I do have a motorcycle with different throttle modes and have experience in other cars with drive-by-wire throttles and drive modes which alter the throttle mapping. So I can speak to my experience.

At the end of the day everyone is right, Saker is right that a more aggressive throttle mapping can "trick" your brain into thinking the car has more power than it does. This can without question make the driving experience more enjoyable. My Aprilia is much more fun around town in "Sport" mode vs. "Touring" mode even though maximum power is the same. This is all due to a more aggressive throttle mapping, the ignition timing and fuel maps are the same on both settings.

The Engineer contingent is also right, you are not gaining any passing power, dyno power or outright performance increase. To some this may make the modification worthless but again I go back to the perceived effects. Your brain has been taught over the years that 25% pedal input results in 25% throttle, this is a holdover from the throttle cable days. When you alter that linear correlation and create a situation where 25% pedal may result in 35% throttle then of course the car feels faster. These effects, by nature, can only apply to part throttle driving. With your foot to the floor you are never going to get more that 100% throttle.

Here is an example chart of how these things work that I stole from the interweb.
S54_Throttle_Mappings.JPG
 
The engineering argument is sound, but also not relevant to a product that openly states that it's not going to improve 0-60 time.

I bought one based on the reviews and to me it's entirely worth the $250 for the V2 version. It changes the way the car feels and makes it a much more enjoyable experience to drive.

If you are looking to make a 4Runner faster - don't buy it. (also, why?)

If you are looking to improve that lag feeling every time you touch the pedal - order one - it has a money back guarantee.

I was hoping that I wouldn't like it and I'd send it back, but they now have my $250 because I love the way the car drives in green mode.
 
Sprint booster installed, set on green, loving the new and improved FEEL of the truck. Great recommendation, thanks to all.

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