TX - Santa Fe High School Shooting

I think it would be interesting to have a convo about this face to face. There are quite a few points I agree with and others I don't. But do feel the discussion would be worth while and perhaps thought-provoking on both perspectives.

Absolutely. I'd sit down and have a beer and a discussion/debate with anyone. The moment someone turned things argumentative, it would be finished and a different less volatile topic would need to be discussed.

I'm almost never in Seattle, but if you're ever in Denver drop me a line and Id love to take you to the range and have a beer and some conversation afterwards!

A few things worth noting regarding the internet, technology and the media:

1) Mediating our discussions has turned pretty much everyone into a child, name calling, emotions; just plain ridiculous behavior.

2) The majority/middle of the road cool headed folks gets drowned out by the extremes screaming on both sides.

3) The media should never be trusted. Never use one single source. Realclearpolitics.com is about the best single source I've found that does a good job of writing both sides into their reporting.


As a society we need more face to face discussion. Real discussion and not just weather and sports. It doesn't much occur anymore and we are all worse off for it.

I make a point of inviting folks who posit different beliefs and opinions than me to go to the range, or grab a beer or coffee, or whatever and have a real discussion.

Most of the time minds don't change drastically, but perspectives slightly shift and a better understanding is gained of why a belief or opinion is held and formulated.

I challenge everyone to have at least one sit down discussion with someone "new" or "different" or outside of your echo chamber and make a real effort to understand their perspective as well as effectively relate yours.

The world will be a better place if we get back to better communicating with each other.

I also challenge everyone to review your post prior to posting it on the internet and if you don't believe you'd say that to a mans face, then don't post it. If you get so angry that you want to call someone a name or threaten them or put them into a box; turn the computer off and go do something relaxing or productive and come back later.

We are seriously at a volatile turning point in our country; yet again. We are being deceived from every angle and turned against one another, divided against one another. It makes us weak and this roads leads to violent and bloody ends as we've seen over and over again throughout history.

Everyone has a choice how we move forward. It starts with each individual.
 
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Absolutely. I'd sit down and have a beer and a discussion/debate with anyone. The moment someone turned things argumentative, it would be finished and a different less volatile topic would need to be discussed.

I'm almost never in Seattle, but if you're ever in Denver drop me a line and Id love to take you to the range and have a beer and some conversation afterwards!

A few things worth noting regarding the internet, technology and the media:

1) Mediating our discussions has turned pretty much everyone into a child, name calling, emotions; just plain ridiculous behavior.

2) The majority/middle of the road cool headed folks gets drowned out by the extremes screaming on both sides.

3) The media should never be trusted. Never use one single source. Realclearpolitics.com is about the best single source I've found that does a good job of writing both sides into their reporting.


As a society we need more face to face discussion. Real discussion and not just weather and sports. It doesn't much occur anymore and we are all worse off for it.

Spot on. I will just add a few of my observations on the same topics.

1 & 2. I feel one of the biggest issues with online "discussions" is that it rarely goes anywhere. Too many people on their sides just wanting to shout their opinions all while casting a deaf ear to anything otherwise. In addition, I feel another problem is that things are becoming so extreme to one side or the other, that if you're not on one of those sides, you get immediately demonized and put into the other. Offend one and the momentum snowballs from there.

3. I do think it's a bit much to say to never trust the media. There are many news sources out there that I believe do a good job at vetting their information before releasing it. But, I would definitely never trust any media source 100%.


For me, one of the best tools is playing Devil's Advocate. Get to know each side of any topic. The more information you have, the better your opinions will be in the end.

And to know that in the end people will just have different opinions with the same information. It doesn't mean one is wrong and one is right.
 
This is a nail in the proverbial coffin as one major driver of some of these kids who commit mass murder: Parkland Shooter explains that he killed people to get publicity. How much clearer can this killer make his motivation for doing this attack? Vids just released he says:

“when you see me on the news you will all know who I am.”
“from the rath of my power they will know who I am."
“you will all know what my name is.”


Here's a good idea:
https://nonotoriety.com/
 
Are you just trolling or looking to stir things up?
Welcome to t4r forum. This is where ndecent likes to hang out a lot. Do with that information whatever you would like. He has mastered the circular rant, straw man argument, and passive aggressive keyboard warrioring.

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Are you just trolling or looking to stir things up?

He is doing both. It's a constant thing with him. Reminds me of a social justice warrior. His keyboard is his weapon of choice and he uses it to hand out social justice, serving size LARGE...But...From what I can gather he is just a very unhappy person. Poor guy, maybe one day he will find peace.
 
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He is doing both. It's a constant thing with him. Reminds me of a social justice warrior. His keyboard is his weapon of choice and he uses it to hand out social justice, serving size LARGE...But...From what I can gather he is just a very unhappy person. Poor guy, maybe one day he will find peace.

You don’t know anything about me.

Creepy your need to categorize me, but if it makes you feel better about your own scenario, have at it.

Dream job, hot wife, affluent, no debt, three motorcycles, two trucks, all the toys I could want. Some things to consider next time you want to make me feel small.
 
You don’t know anything about me.

Creepy your need to categorize me, but if it makes you feel better about your own scenario, have at it.

Dream job, hot wife, affluent, no debt, three motorcycles, two trucks, all the toys I could want. Some things to consider next time you want to make me feel small.

:loco::der:
 
You don’t know anything about me.

Creepy your need to categorize me, but if it makes you feel better about your own scenario, have at it.

Dream job, hot wife, affluent, no debt, three motorcycles, two trucks, all the toys I could want. Some things to consider next time you want to make me feel small.

....serving size, LARGE! :hungry::brushteeth:
 
You don’t know anything about me.

Creepy your need to categorize me, but if it makes you feel better about your own scenario, have at it.

Dream job, hot wife, affluent, no debt, three motorcycles, two trucks, all the toys I could want. Some things to consider next time you want to make me feel small.

Bragging about the objects you own.

Interesting. Small status confirmed.
 

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