Tyler James Inc's OEM+ '97 Limited

[Tyler James Inc]

^Nice. Fresh suspension stuff is always fun. You know which setting you're going to put it on? :snacker:

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Real stoked! I chose the 4th perch of 5. Hoping to get about 2.5" total lift.
One side down

Thanks to [MENTION=50342]JayRolla[/MENTION] for giving me shit about the spacers [emoji23]
Even though the pre-load spacers are the exact same thing as adjustable perches, my stock shocks were FAR gone, and I'd rather have no spacers.
Stoked to see how it handles with the new Tundra 5100's. Bilstein just updated these Fall '16, so the part number is different than any of the old threads that talk about the adjustable Tundras.

 

[dustxking]

Looks like the Tundra 5100's setup? What coils are you going to use?

edit: You posted as I posted as well lol.

 

[Tyler James Inc]

Looks like the Tundra 5100's setup? What coils are you going to use?

edit: You posted as I posted as well lol.

But my post didn't say anything about coils [emoji12]
Using '99 tall coils [emoji1360]

 

[fourfive]

Nerdy tool question but are those knipex pliers I see on the left in this pic?

 

[theesotericone]

Nerdy tool question but are those knipex pliers I see on the left in this pic?

I'm a plumber by trade and have been using them for years. Twice as much as Channellocks but 10 times better. Those are cobra's in the photo and they work great for any non-finished material. If you need to use them on finished surfaces there plier wrench is smooth jawed and ratcheting.'

 

[dustxking]

But my post didn't say anything about coils [emoji12]
Using '99 tall coils [emoji1360]

Would love to pick your brain about all of this someday soon. My 98 will need a "frankenstien" lift. I also live in 360.

 

[fourfive]

Yes they are. I'm a plumber by trade and have been using them for years. Twice as much as Channellocks but 10 times better. Those are cobra's in the photo and they work great for any non-finished material. If you need to use them on finished surfaces there plier wrench is smooth jawed and ratcheting.

Ahh that's what I thought. I used them once changing inner tie rods because I forgot mine at home. Had no idea at the time what brand they were but could tell they were SIGNIFICANTLY better than my HF pliers & the head width was much more narrow (if I remember correctly) which allowed me to get a better grip on the tie rod. Been secretly wanting my HF pliers to fail so I can pick those up.

 

[Tyler James Inc]

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4th perch looks to be too high. I'm leaving for a Central Oregon Land Cruiser run to meet up with [MENTION=135317]rkntoy[/MENTION] tomorrow, but I think I'm gonna pull 'em back off and lower it in the AM. The run is Saturday, but it's a 2.5hr drive from here, and the wife and I are making a weekend of it. The kiddos need to get outta the house badly too.
As far as I calculate, stock height should be about 20" on my '97.
Here's my measurements before and after the swap this evening-

 

[Tyler James Inc]

Ahh that's what I thought. I used them once changing inner tie rods because I forgot mine at home. Had no idea at the time what brand they were but could tell they were SIGNIFICANTLY better than my HF pliers & the head width was much more narrow (if I remember correctly) which allowed me to get a better grip on the tie rod. Been secretly wanting my HF pliers to fail so I can pick those up.

Haha I don't blame you!
Yeah, they're super nice to use. I also love how narrow the jaws are, yet they open up MUCH more than Channel Locks. I'm an electrician, and carry as few tools as possible. They're super nice for connectors/lock nuts. The little baby size is actually my most used size!

Would love to pick your brain about all of this someday soon. My 98 will need a "frankenstien" lift. I also live in 360.

Hit me up anytime man. Always down to help a guy out!

 

[Tyler James Inc]

I noticed a ticking in the last month that I didn't think has always been there.
I think my purge valve might be bad. My A3's purge valve was ticking real bad, and that was a tell-tale sign it was failing. I'm just assuming it is the same for most purge valves, but I don't know.
https://vimeo.com/202335128https://vimeo.com/202335151

Research tells me it's supposed to tick like that. Pretty weird, 'cause I'm pretty in-tune with noises, and I swear there is a new tick.

 

[Tyler James Inc]

Little bit of a rough morning, but very thankful no one got hurt, and I didn't cause any property damage.
Our neighborhood was solid ice. Left to get coffee, and traction up the hill was just fine. Come back 40 minutes later- and the sun had come out, causing water to be sitting on top of the ice. Creeping up to the top of the hill, and before I knew it, I was at traction level zero [emoji24]
Was able to steer into a neighbors driveway before I hit the steep part of the hill and really lost it.
I didn't actually slide into the tree originally. I aired down, and 4lo CREEPED backwards. As soon as my front tire was outta their yard- boom- slid right into the tree. Fck.
Was able to crank the wheels to pull away from the tree without much scraping. By then, the glaze layer of ice was much more melted, and traction was fine.
There was another car positioned EXACTLY like me- and up against a tree- 3 houses down.
Gotta pull the 5100's real quick and hit the road.

Little damage to the door, but I honestly don't care. I like to keep my rig nice and clean, but I got a $5k rig so I wouldn't care when things like this happen [emoji1360]

 

[Chim]

Dang it!!!! looks like it could have been way worse though had you slid further! Sick of seeing these 4runners getting banged up!

 

[AssBurns]

Sounds like you could have benefited from some rock sliders.


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[Tyler James Inc]

Man, after you take these things out a couple times, it takes no time at all!
45 minutes from jacking up to weight back on it- that's including spring compressor and changing snap ring position [emoji1360]
VERY happy with position 3.
It dropped 3/4" from4 to 3, so I am now at 38.75" F to G, and 22.5" F to COH.
That's right around 2-2.5" total lift, and I think that's perfect for me.

 

[Scramble]

Sucks man, when I was reading your story I was picturing a big tree but it's not too bad. Time for Sliders.

I live in a hilly neighborhood too & if there's ice outside I dont leave the house. I wrecked my Corolla sliding into a ditch coming home from work back in 08. Another time I avoided a pile up at the bottom of a hill in my 01 Accord with brand new snow tires. I was sliding down hill & was able to avoid 4 wrecked cars. That was nuts, people were jumping out of the way as I slid by, LOL. I had two big shots of whiskey when I got home to get rid of the shakes.

 

[Tyler James Inc]

Sucks man, when I was reading your story I was picturing a big tree but it's not too bad. Time for Sliders.

I live in a hilly neighborhood too & if there's ice outside I dont leave the house. I wrecked my Corolla sliding into a ditch coming home from work back in 08. Another time I avoided a pile up at the bottom of a hill in my 01 Accord with brand new snow tires. I was sliding down hill & was able to avoid 4 wrecked cars. That was nuts, people were jumping out of the way as I slid by, LOL. I had two big shots of whiskey when I got home to get rid of the shakes.

Man! Yeah, I get a little big-headed sometimes, and think I can get around just fine in the ice- "I have good traction tires!". Thing is, street were fine all through town, it was just the neighborhood that had ice. Oh well.
Man, those sound like some real puckering moments!
I'm a little overly un-reactive, so I was fine. My wife on the other hand... haha she was fit to be tied over there.

Dang it!!!! looks like it could have been way worse though had you slid further! Sick of seeing these 4runners getting banged up!

Me too! Now I'm constantly thinking of rolling my rig. Especially after that super slow rollover. Just thankful it wasn't worse. I was actually super fortunate- the old couple that lived there both passed away last year, and their yard was a perfect spot for a run-away 4Runner. [emoji1374] Just glad the house is vacant, and their yard isn't like perfectly manicured or anything.

Sounds like you could have benefited from some rock sliders.

I'm not sure if sliders would have saved me- they'd have to be set out pretty far. Maybe so though. That would have been nice!

 

[ralatkins]

I just reread this whole thread for like the 4th time. Love your build man.


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[spoonsports86]

Man, after you take these things out a couple times, it takes no time at all!
45 minutes from jacking up to weight back on it- that's including spring compressor and changing snap ring position [emoji1360]
VERY happy with position 3.
It dropped 3/4" from4 to 3, so I am now at 38.75" F to G, and 22.5" F to COH.
That's right around 2-2.5" total lift, and I think that's perfect for me.

looking great man my father just seen a pic of your rig and he loves the color

so in the front you have the tundra 5100 and spring isolator with tall 99 springs?

what are you using out back?

i just ordered my tundra f/r 5100 and waiting on a set of tall 99 springs from a member

just want to make sure i have everything i need. oh and do you mind linking me on how to press the rear bushing out so i can swap it wiht the energy suspension one

 

[Tyler James Inc]

I just reread this whole thread for like the 4th time. Love your build man.

Really?! Damn, well thanks a lot man, that's really cool. I really appreciate that ☺

looking great man my father just seen a pic of your rig and he loves the color



so in the front you have the tundra 5100 and spring isolator with tall 99 springs?



what are you using out back?



i just ordered my tundra f/r 5100 and waiting on a set of tall 99 springs from a member



just want to make sure i have everything i need. oh and do you mind linking me on how to press the rear bushing out so i can swap it wiht the energy suspension one

Thanks man!
Front-
Tundra 5100 on the 3rd(of 5) notch with '99 tall coils.
No need for the Tundra isolator if you're using 4R coils. You only need the Tundra isolators if you use Tundra coils(Like the Yellow/Yellow & Yellow/Blue 00-06 Tundra TRD coils).
You need to use the 4R top plate, isolators, and bushings. I would recommend new isolators and bushings while you have it apart. OEM on those should be reasonable.
Rear-
I have ToyTec Superflex coils, which give 3.75" of lift with stock weight. They flex really well, and ride really well. They sit a little high- without weight- for me, and I would like to see how their 3" coils sits. I still want the back a little higher than the front, but the 3.75" is just a hair high. With a rear plate bumper, spare tire, fuel/water, gear, and people in the back seat- I've heard the Superflex isn't the best spring for that. Since I'm not really into two week long wilderness camping, I'm not concerned about capacity to carry a RTT and a bunch of gear. It's just a rig I want to be fun to drive/handle well, and be able to take off-road and have fun on the trails anytime too. I have the "extended" shocks ToyTec recommends for the Superflex springs, and they're too long for me. The Tundra 5100 is an inch shorter, and definitely a better choice. I lost probably two inches of up-travel with these long ass shocks [emoji1361]
I do have OEM TRD Tundra rear 4600's that I plan on trying next, but haven't yet- so I can't help with the lower bushing swap.

 

[Tyler James Inc]

So clean guys. So. Clean.

1/4" of ice built up on the rockers, and almost as much on the whole front end on my trip from Sandy to Madras.
Found one of my favorite things there though [emoji6]

Almost had enough quarters to get the whole front end [emoji23]