Unicorn found, WOW.

[mckennar]

My brothers first turbo was a 13g in a 5 speed because his motor had been swapped from an auto. Thats the car I have now. We had that 13g maxed on e85 spiking 30psi droping to 22psi at redline. It was a TQ monster and very fun to drive but nothing up top. Miss that turbo.

Holy hell I was half joking... 30PSI on a 13g?? Even with an FMIC I had temps at the intake manifold pushing 130f on the stock 14b at 25psi. Hell, on a 16g at 25psi (spike, settle to 20psi) I was still north of 110f if memory serves me correctly. I'll have to find my datalogger stuff to confirm this but I distinctly remember the smaller turbos having trouble keeping the heat down once you got over 20psi.

What are your intake temps post-intercooler on this setup? Or do those not factor in as much with e85?

 

[JayRolla]

Holy hell I was half joking... 30PSI on a 13g?? Even with an FMIC I had temps at the intake manifold pushing 130f on the stock 14b at 25psi. Hell, on a 16g at 25psi (spike, settle to 20psi) I was still north of 110f if memory serves me correctly. I'll have to find my datalogger stuff to confirm this but I distinctly remember the smaller turbos having trouble keeping the heat down once you got over 20psi.

What are your intake temps post-intercooler on this setup? Or do those not factor in as much with e85?

Intake temps have zero factor on e85. Its just that good. It is running 12.0 afr, 24* timing and 30+psi on a 16g with zero detonation. Car dynoed over 400whp on a 16g. The 16g currently on the car was ported to creep. Most shops port them to not turbo creep. Also wastegate is pretty much bypassed so the turbo is just running the maximum boost the housings allow.

This lets it hit 32-34+psi depending on gear and load. Ive seen it almost hit 40psi. It will drop to around 26-30psi by 6k rpms. The goal was to hold max boost as much as possible.

The 16g really doesnt open up and start making good power till its spiking over 28psi. I remember having a 28psi tune and then once we had the turbo spiking super hard

 

[TorqueOfTheDevil]

And I'm referring to normal TQ converter Autos. My DSM will have a standard auto with a high stall converter and pressure line mod for firmer, faster shifts. It can shave almost a full second off the 1/4 mile time.

Same with the older supra's. A 1000whp supra has a lot easier chance getting down the track with an old auto than a stick shift.

I forget people keep car stock. In most low HP or stock HP situations an stick shift is better.

Or a track, or fast road application

You are also talking straight line quartermile, they also have a nicer side effect of smoothing the power out so you break stuff less... (SMG M3's infamously suffered with this when people took them to the drag strip, if you've ever driven one you'll not be surprised, they change gear VIOLENTLY)
I was still thinking in the context of Ferraris and GTRs as mentioned previously where quick shifts down and up are needed for track time, as well and holding gear at partial throttle in anticipation of the next corner etc.. That's a totally different market sector again!

-and funny you should mention old supras.. I've done my time with those, although I can genuinely say I've done more laps of the Nurburgring than passes of a drag strip, in both manual and auto supras! Good times.

Either way, its getting further off the point that "They sell more as Auto in Japan" which is probably a simple fact of lots of sitting in stop start traffic...

I think all transmission types have their own places... apart from CVT, which are liked by people that like efficiency more than they like cars... "as seen on the Prius".

 

[Mudeprived]

Is it just me or do I see 80k on the odometer?

 

[JayRolla]

Or a track, or fast road application

You are also talking straight line quartermile, they also have a nicer side effect of smoothing the power out so you break stuff less... (SMG M3's infamously suffered with this when people took them to the drag strip, if you've ever driven one you'll not be surprised, they change gear VIOLENTLY)
I was still thinking in the context of Ferraris and GTRs as mentioned previously where quick shifts down and up are needed for track time, as well and holding gear at partial throttle in anticipation of the next corner etc.. That's a totally different market sector again!

-and funny you should mention old supras.. I've done my time with those, although I can genuinely say I've done more laps of the Nurburgring than passes of a drag strip, in both manual and auto supras! Good times.

Either way, its getting further off the point that "They sell more as Auto in Japan" which is probably a simple fact of lots of sitting in stop start traffic...

I think all transmission types have their own places... apart from CVT, which are liked by people that like efficiency more than they like cars... "as seen on the Prius".

Yeah the #1 reason I'm going auto is stop breaking transmissions. No madder what you do to mod the manual's they tend to always fail quicker than an auto.

 

[sunsetrunner]

Is it just me or do I see 80k on the odometer?

80k Kilometers. Not miles.

 

[gamefreakgc]

Yeah but man those autos can be so much faster. Cant wait to get an auto in my DSM.

Yeah, especially that manufacturers are adding more gears. Trying to shift by hand through a 7-speed transmission would definitely slow things down.

 

[JayRolla]

Yeah, especially that manufacturers are adding more gears. Trying to shift by hand through a 7-speed transmission would definitely slow things down.

My buddies old vette (old I mean new ZR1) had a 7 speed manual. That car was awesome. He upgraded to a newer Callaway Corvette with the auto paddle shifter crap. Not as fun. But man its so much faster at the track.

 

[fblainen11]

Someone at my local dealer bought this for $500. Someone traded it.

No rust, flawless interior, tech that drove up in it said engine and drivetrain were perfect condition. That's a unicorn at that price. Don't forget the brand new tires that probably ran around $800.

 

[gamefreakgc]

Someone at my local dealer bought this for $500. Someone traded it.

No rust, flawless interior, tech that drove up in it said engine and drivetrain were perfect condition. That's a unicorn at that price. Don't forget the brand new tires that probably ran around $800.

That has the 3.0 though... yes it's clean but that engine is garbage as far as Toyotas go. You couldn't pay me to ever own a 3VZ-E again.

 

[fblainen11]

At $500 you've got enough dough to go buy a donor with a 3.4 and put it in there.

 

[Ironman707]

I got to drive one at my work a while ago, the owner was on a road trip from Canada all the way down to LA then back, it was pretty awesome... I can't find the other pic I took but he had a lift and a roof tent

 

[Shibby!]

It's always greener on the other side...

Up in Canada they are pretty common. Anything up to 15 years old and often sell for much less than the LHD / gas jobs due to being right hand.

Also, as sad as it is, even with lower KM, they all seem to be needing a lot of repair, or recently having 1000's put into them.

Most are 130,000KM or less due to the regulations over there when they come to Canada.

Sadly, I've passed over a lot of surfs and 80 series diesels due to being RHD. Just not interested in owning one due to the safety hazard and general PITA they would be for a daily driver.


Now if only you guys would ship more Land Cruisers up north!!!

We only got the Lexus versions and they are pretty rare, albeit low KM compared to the US ones. It's a trade off as your high mileage units still tend to be better condition on the outside (less paint fade), but interiors are worn. Where our are rusty, but better paint (where not rusted) and interiors having much less use.

Kinda looking for a clean 100 series to buy...

 

[Tam4511]

Theres a lot of importers here in dallas, there was a couple for sale but just out of my budget.
Im going to wait for for the 3rd gen surfs to be legal and think about getting one shipped here.