Up Date: On my tread wright MTR'S

[99Yotarunner]

Hey guys about 3 weeks ago i installed a set of 285/75/16 tread wright mtr's om my rig, a few of you guys where curios and wanted to know what i thought about them..... well so far there completly amazing, iv got about 1000 miles on them and a few wheeling trips in the mud and snow, these tires are incredible off road they just grip everything,we just got about 12-14 inches of snow here so i was out playing anywhere i could find, i was going places i did not dare to go befor with my 265 bfg km'2 which are another great tire just very exspensive, on the road there smooth and no shakes vibrations or anything, they are a lil noisy which you have to expect with a mud tire, but over all i have nothing bad to say. so if any of you are wondering or contiplating on tires go check out treadwright.com and the money you save on the tires from there will be enought for a decent lift or something else on your wish list....:cheers:

 

[brian2sun]

Thanks for the review. Has anyone heard about the safety of these re-treads? Just wondering if they have a higher chance of blowing out, coming apart, etc.. Don't know much about re-treading, except that back in the day it was pretty common practice, but isn't so much these days.

 

[bhowle]

I may have to give these a shot when I upgrade to 33's. Even with my discounts through work, I can't get a good MT tire for anything close to what treadwright sells these for. I do wish they offered a 255/85/16 though.

 

[Clemsonfan15]

I don't think the question about these tires is really how they handle offroad, but more about how long they last and how safe they are. They might be prone to blow outs.

 

[p nut]

Thanks for the review. Has anyone heard about the safety of these re-treads? Just wondering if they have a higher chance of blowing out, coming apart, etc.. Don't know much about re-treading, except that back in the day it was pretty common practice, but isn't so much these days.

I haven't seen actual stats, but I've read few threads where the casing and tread came apart, and where there were issues with the casing (bubbling).
(I guess Treadwright was very quick to replace them.)

But that's enough for me no to use them on a on-road vehicle. You save maybe $150-$300, but my life, my family's life and others on the road is worth a bit more than that. I've yet to hear of KO's or KM2's with any of these issues.

Maybe if I ever build a trail-only rig, I might try them out.

 

[Ham Sammich]

But that's enough for me no to use them on a on-road vehicle. You save maybe $150-$300, but my life, my family's life and others on the road is worth a bit more than that. I've yet to hear of KO's or KM2's with any of these issues.

Sounds like you sell tires for Les Schwab...lol

Any tire can fail...ANY tire. TW's track record is as good or better than tires costing 2x as much..

I have had GREAT results so far and have NO fear of killing me, my family or anyone else because of these tires...

 

[RonMAIDEN]

NO fear of killing me, my family or anyone else because of these tires...

Famous last words?

I can't justify the $300 I'd save over my GoodYears and TW's limited warranty isn't long enough for my comfort.

I'm sure most retreads are fine but I can't bring myself to buy them in part due to the limited choices.

 

[p nut]

Sounds like you sell tires for Les Schwab...lol

Any tire can fail...ANY tire. TW's track record is as good or better than tires costing 2x as much..

I have had GREAT results so far and have NO fear of killing me, my family or anyone else because of these tires...

I guess if I'm a Les Schawb sales guy, you're from Treadwright. Of course any tire can fail. That's not the point. NEW tires have a far less chance of failing. That's just the facts. Whenever you use USED carcasses, it will have a greater chance of a blow out than a new casing. I'll take the new tire with a much less chance of failure. This is why I also drive a Toyota--yea, all cars fail, but it's got much less chance of failing.

 

[Ham Sammich]

Famous last words?

I can't justify the $300 I'd save over my GoodYears and TW's limited warranty isn't long enough for my comfort.

I'm sure most retreads are fine but I can't bring myself to buy them in part due to the limited choices.

Well, all I can say is that I'm VERY impressed with TW so far.. and I'm in no way worried about blowing a tire and killing everyone in sight..

And I saved much more than $300...

When people start claiming that you are risking your life using TW's without anything to back up the claims ...well, it kinda sounds like a smear campaign...

 

[Ham Sammich]

I guess if I'm a Les Schawb sales guy, you're from Treadwright. Of course any tire can fail. That's not the point. NEW tires have a far less chance of failing. That's just the facts. Whenever you use USED carcasses, it will have a greater chance of a blow out than a new casing. I'll take the new tire with a much less chance of failure.

Hey, I'm all about learning...please show me where Ï can confirm that TW's have a much higher chance of a blowout, compared to a new tire...does the DOT know about this?

OMG....I just realized that I'm running these dangerous retreads on stock 7" wheels....I'm sooo scroomed..LOL

 

[p nut]

Hey, I'm all about learning...please show me where Ï can confirm that TW's have a much higher chance of a blowout, compared to a new tire...does the DOT know about this?

First and foremost, use common sense. TW is using USED carcasses. Used. With who knows how many miles. Then compare to a new set. Which do you think has a HIGHER chance of failing? First, answer me that.

Secondly, look through the countless TW threads. Almost always there is at least one person reporting TW failure. Do I have official percentages of the rate of failure? I don't. I'm only going by the trend I have noticed, but that is enough for me. I won't go through the trouble of searching and proving this to you, because your opinion will not change and it will be a waste of my time.

Either way, this is my choice to not run them and you have your choice. And the DOT comment? Do I need to remind you of the Firestone fiasco? Recent Toyota diaster?

Now answer me this second question. What makes TW just as reliable as new tires? (please answer both questions. )

 

[JohnsD90]

Now here, i do not know much about retreads, but i do know that Semi's use them a lot, and that if they were that unsafe the government wouldnt allow it, and the trucking companies wouldn't either.

Now before you say that all the blowouts you see are from retreads, do a little research and maybe read this.
Tire Retread & Repair Information Bureau | RUBBER ON THE ROAD - Issues & Answers - IF RETREADS ARE SO GOOD, HOW COME WE SEE SO MUCH RUBBER ON THE ROAD?

I'm not saying go and buy retreads, i am saying approach the situation with an open mind.

 

[brian2sun]

Wow, I didn't know I was gonna start a debate, but it's a good one. It makes since to me that since they're used, they're not going to be as strong and reliable, the sidewall particularly. Rubber ages, you can't get around that. I'd have to agree that they would probably be great for a trail rig, but I'm not so sure I would want them on my DD either.

 

[p nut]

Now here, i do not know much about retreads, but i do know that Semi's use them a lot, and that if they were that unsafe the government wouldnt allow it, and the trucking companies wouldn't either.

Now before you say that all the blowouts you see are from retreads, do a little research and maybe read this.
Tire Retread & Repair Information Bureau | RUBBER ON THE ROAD - Issues & Answers - IF RETREADS ARE SO GOOD, HOW COME WE SEE SO MUCH RUBBER ON THE ROAD?

I'm not saying go and buy retreads, i am saying approach the situation with an open mind.

Yes, semi's use them, but they've also got 17 other tires so if one blows, they're not in any danger. And they do blow. Witnessed it firsthand and I'm sure everyone's seen semi tire treads scattered on the roads.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but the steerer wheels (front two), they're not supposed to use retreads, but new tires.

BTW, next time you research, be sure to not to post a link solely from a retread site who's "dedicated to the safe recycling of tires through tire retreading and tire recycling."

 

[Ham Sammich]

Now here, i do not know much about retreads, but i do know that Semi's use them a lot, and that if they were that unsafe the government wouldnt allow it, and the trucking companies wouldn't either.

Now before you say that all the blowouts you see are from retreads, do a little research and maybe read this.
Tire Retread & Repair Information Bureau | RUBBER ON THE ROAD - Issues & Answers - IF RETREADS ARE SO GOOD, HOW COME WE SEE SO MUCH RUBBER ON THE ROAD?

I'm not saying go and buy retreads, i am saying approach the situation with an open mind.

That's pretty much where I was leading to with the DOT comment...thanx

My point is that NO evidence exists that retreads fail at a much higher rates than new tires.. because it simply doesn't happen...

Personal choices are awesome and to each their own....In my own research, after wading through all the scare tactics about retreads generally, and TW specifically...I came to the conclusion that TW's are a less expensive and higher performing solution for me.

Sorry to sidetrack the thread OP...I love my TW's too!!

 

[Spencer]

Haha, very true about the 18 wheelers.. They have about 18 other wheels to depend on, since there 18 wheelers and all.

If tw was just as good as a new tire they would sell them at a new price, they don't because they are attracting customers who are willing to sacrifice (something, name brand, safety, family, others safety, reliability, age) and take a chance to save a $.

Plain and simple.. If they were just as good, tire companies would all do them and mix them in with the néw batches.

There used.. USED...

Who knows what stress they were put under. O

 

[theizzardking]

i cannot comment on any of this as i have never ran retreads, but from a manufacturing stand point and the way tires are made and the way a retread is made i'd have a guess and say that a new tire is about 30% less likely to blow out, just from the methods used to create the product.



new tires
YouTube - How Tires Are Made


retreads
YouTube - How It's Made Remolded tires


as you can see new tires are just built better and that's not even figuring in
the stress on the rubber from years of use and heat needed to remold or adhere new tread to........

from a purely scientific view retreads will never be as good as a new tire, that said i have considered running them before and with quality controls
and newer materials techniques i would put some faith in them, like said before if they were "dangerous" the company wouldn't be allowed to sell them or would have been sued out of the market very quickly.

the choice is really yours to make, i wouldn't say they are dangerous and you are going to die if you buy a set, all i can say is they aren't as good as new
from a purely scientific stand-point.
:biggrin2:

 

[econhonda]

i cannot comment on any of this as i have never ran retreads, but from a manufacturing stand point and the way tires are made and the way a retread is made i'd have a guess and say that a new tire is about 30% less likely to blow out, just from the methods used to create the product.



new tires
YouTube - How Tires Are Made


retreads
YouTube - How It's Made Remolded tires


as you can see new tires are just built better and that's not even figuring in
the stress on the rubber from years of use and heat needed to remold or adhere new tread to........

from a purely scientific view retreads will never be as good as a new tire, that said i have considered running them before and with quality controls
and newer materials techniques i would put some faith in them, like said before if they were "dangerous" the company wouldn't be allowed to sell them or would have been sued out of the market very quickly.

the choice is really yours to make, i wouldn't say they are dangerous and you are going to die if you buy a set, all i can say is they aren't as good as new
from a purely scientific stand-point.
:biggrin2:

I agree with him.

If you are too wussy to handle the re-treads, by new tires. If you are too cheap to buy new tires, go with the re-treads! :hiding:

 

[Mr. Leary]

I manage a fleet of trucks. I use both retreads and virgin tires. I have not seen significantly different results relating to tire life and risk of blowout between them.

It is a common misconception to think that all blowouts on the road are retreads. Separation happens most often at the bottom of the sidewall whether the tires have been re capped or not, but people see them and assume they are re caps.

Tire carcasses are thouroughly inspected before they are capped, and they are marked during the process to ensure that they are only recapped once. Recapping tires multiple times is an ill advised practice due to accumulation of heat breakdown in the rubber compound itself.

The simple fact is that any tire used by a heavily loaded 18 wheeler is prone to blowout. The loads these tires experience should not be compared to tires on passenger vehicles.

I have never tried treadwrights or any of the other brands of recapped passenger tires on the market today, but not for fear of them being unsafe. If they made them in 255/85/R16, I would probably be riding on some now. Most rumors of failure are just that, rumors. I had a brand new BFG KM2 sidewall fail soon after purchasing them, and it was covered by warranty. It would have been covered by warranty just the same if it was a Treadwright.

Getting over the stigma is hard, but the re-treads of the 70s are long gone.

 

[p nut]

Too "wussy"? Because I don't want to buy retreads and fortunately have the financial means to buy new tires makes me a wuss? Ha ha, Ok, I'm a wuss.

Also, just was reading the warranty. It doesn't cover belt separation. Scary thought when the company has no faith in the product they sell.