Used coils worth it?

[volkinator]

Hey everyone! I want to slowly start to piece together my lift. I want something like the SS 1.2 and I've found a donor Tundra TRD to pull the front coils out of, however they've got a bunch of miles on them (assuming they're original, approx 200K) Is it worth getting something that's been used that much, or is it better to just get new? Obviously it can be said 'what's it worth to me' but I'm just trying to keep a budget

 

[absalom]

To your original question; yes. In fact, I prefer used coils, as I'm impatient and don't want to wait for them to settle when new.

Regarding what you should pay, $60-90 for LC coils, and $75-115 for Tundra coils.

 

[JayRolla]

I prefer new. Everyone thats personally seen my truck ask me what coils I have. I tell them 7 wraps and they dont believe me because there 8 wraps didnt give them as much lift. They handle weight better than people with used LC coils and they have kept most there lift. The settle only took a month or so. Once you flex them out they settle fast.

 

[volkinator]

To your original question; yes. In fact, I prefer used coils, as I'm impatient and don't want to wait for them to settle when new.

Regarding what you should pay, $60-90 for LC coils, and $75-115 for Tundra coils.

I prefer new. Everyone thats personally seen my truck ask me what coils I have. I tell them 7 wraps and they dont believe me because there 8 wraps didnt give them as much lift. They handle weight better than people with used LC coils and they have kept most there lift. The settle only took a month or so. Once you flex them out they settle fast.

Thanks for the quick responses. I'd like to check them out this weekend! Should I try to get the whole assembly? Or is it better to re-use the 4runner top plates? I guess I can check out the condition of the shocks for now too, but will be looking into billies later on. Now just to find the LC coils for the rear!

Absalom, I appreciate the insight to prices as well! I've read a lot of your posts regarding lifts, so I hope this is the right way to go.

 

[volkinator]

I prefer new. Everyone thats personally seen my truck ask me what coils I have. I tell them 7 wraps and they dont believe me because there 8 wraps didnt give them as much lift. They handle weight better than people with used LC coils and they have kept most there lift. The settle only took a month or so. Once you flex them out they settle fast.

And your rig is intense! Just looked through your build. Dang that thing sits high! I'm looking at getting 2.5-3" max out of my lift. And the LBJ pics scare me still! ugh. I figured I'd do all that when I put the lift in. Piece of mind is worth it!

 

[absalom]

Thanks for the quick responses. I'd like to check them out this weekend! Should I try to get the whole assembly? Or is it better to re-use the 4runner top plates? I guess I can check out the condition of the shocks for now too, but will be looking into billies later on. Now just to find the LC coils for the rear!

Absalom, I appreciate the insight to prices as well! I've read a lot of your posts regarding lifts, so I hope this is the right way to go.

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[JayRolla]

And your rig is intense! Just looked through your build. Dang that thing sits high! I'm looking at getting 2.5-3" max out of my lift. And the LBJ pics scare me still! ugh. I figured I'd do all that when I put the lift in. Piece of mind is worth it!

7 wraps will give you 3.5" minimum. You dont want them if thats the lift you want.

 

[volkinator]

7 wraps will give you 3.5" minimum. You dont want them if thats the lift you want.

Even loaded? The goal is eventually sleeping platform/storage with tools and camping gear, as well as sliders, and eventually a rear bumper. I was initially thinking 7 wraps, but would OME's be better suited?

 

[JayRolla]

Even loaded? The goal is eventually sleeping platform/storage with tools and camping gear, as well as sliders, and eventually a rear bumper. I was initially thinking 7 wraps, but would OME's be better suited?

I have my rig always loaded. Rear has all my tools, high lift, survival gear, rope, straps, two extra cv shafts, ball joints and random parts. Lots of fluid. Should weigh it I guess to see but my NEW 7 wraps love the weight.

 

[volkinator]

I have my rig always loaded. Rear has all my tools, high lift, survival gear, rope, straps, two extra cv shafts, ball joints and random parts. Lots of fluid. Should weigh it I guess to see but my NEW 7 wraps love the weight.

I really appreciate it you guys! I've been trying to get as much information before taking the plunge. I'll keep looking into what to do for the rear, but either way, the fronts should work great!

 

[JayRolla]

Either way your rears will work great. $220 vs $60 for used one is a good deal. I just prefer new stuff when it comes to suspension. I dont understand installing old used coils, which wear out, on my new suspension truck. But thats me I guess.

 

[volkinator]

$60 for TRD coils with 200k? Seems like a good deal to me, any last thoughts on if 200k will be too much use on them? Or will the weight reduction from the runner on them still be just fine

 

[snivilous]

To your original question; yes. In fact, I prefer used coils, as I'm impatient and don't want to wait for them to settle when new.

Regarding what you should pay, $60-90 for LC coils, and $75-115 for Tundra coils.

Settling is only a result of bushings or the coils seating in their grooves. Correctly made springs won't "settle". Springs that are correctly designed only wear down over time due to cyclic fatigue (like going over 400,000 pot holes for example).

 

[volkinator]

Settling is only a result of bushings or the coils seating in their grooves. Correctly made springs won't "settle". Springs that are correctly designed only wear down over time due to cyclic fatigue (like going over 400,000 pot holes for example).

That makes so much sense! Thanks!

 

[absalom]

Settling is only a result of bushings or the coils seating in their grooves. Correctly made springs won't "settle". Springs that are correctly designed only wear down over time due to cyclic fatigue (like going over 400,000 pot holes for example).

Mmm mm girlfriend *snaps fingers*, don't even make me link that one thread where they proved that springs do in fact "settle".

 

[snivilous]

Mmm mm girlfriend *snaps fingers*, don't even make me link that one thread where they proved that springs do in fact "settle".

Oh please do, I would rather be corrected for not understanding material sciences before I destroy something :crutch:

 

[JayRolla]

Settling is only a result of bushings or the coils seating in their grooves. Correctly made springs won't "settle". Springs that are correctly designed only wear down over time due to cyclic fatigue (like going over 400,000 pot holes for example).

Ive noticed this is true on say strut assemblys. But the rear coils settle some but not too much.

I think used LC coil guys believe they settle a lot because they pull them used, put them on and then they drop down to where my 7 wraps sit after a bit of time.