Very wet then cold (+wolves!)

kkjensen

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Hi everyone.

I've got a 1999 that I use off-road in canada. I was setting up some trail cams for the hunting season and forded a river that was a bit deeper than I remembered when I saw the water pass my wheel wells. New snow had fallen so this wasn't too surprising and I had crossed numerous times over the previous week. The next day a cold front rolled in and the temp dropped to -20C (just below 0F?).

While heading out to run an errand before bed I started 'er up and heard a crack sound when the starter first engaged. A bit tough to explain but it really sounded like something was a bit froze up. No biggie in Canada to have tires froze to the ground, doors and window sealed tight...off I drove and didn't think anything of it.

The next morning after being outside it was worse and I wasn't even getting the solenoid click from the starter and my first instinct was to boost it, assuming either the battery was a touch weak in the cold or something like that. After it didn't start I remembered the crack sound feom the night before and realized I must have some moisture around the starter solenoid. After bribing my kids to help me push it through the snow into the garage I put a space heater under it (pointed up at the starter) for a few hours and she started up fine and we drove it around chasing a few wolves off the property that showed up IN THE FLIPPIN YARD :eek: while I had my head under the truck... Another night without heat and it froze up again followed by another spa treatment and it started up fine. I left the heater under it for all of last night to be sure it would run to morning as I need it rolling under it's own power.

Has anyone else experienced this? Any recommended products I could spray at the starter to help displace some of the offending moisture? I haven't had a chance to hit the road and I'm guessing the heat off the exhaust manifold should heat everything up enough to dry it. It would be a disaster if I was off in the hills with kids in the back and had it freeze up!
 
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I use to be a runner at a dealership, during the winter we would stop the underbody spray on the car wash due to a person who requested a carwash at 0f then parked his car while he went into the dealer. When he cam out the car wouldn't start and he needed a new alternator (dealer had to pay) due to water getting in, freezing and destroying it.

Take the starter out and inspect it if you can, any loud crack is never good.
 
I'm having a hard time imagining enough water remaining in the starter to freeze it solid. I wonder if you've got water in a plug that's pushing the contacts apart when it freezes.

WD40 is an excellent water displacer - that's actually what the WD stands for. Drop the starter and crack the case, spray the whole thing down with WD40, put it back together. If water in the starter is the cause of your trouble, that'll fix it.
 
Thanks for the replies guys. I think it was just a touch of water as the space heater I used wasn't powerful enough to be thawing serious ice in an unheated garage. I've sent my wife (fingers crossed she doesn't call and be really pissed at me making her a guinea pig) on her grocery run today with it as it will involve a couple hours of highway driving. I'll leave the heat off of it tonight and see if it sticks again. If it does, I'll pull it and clean it out with WD40.

Any other maintenance I could do on the starter if and/or when it comes out? I've heard the contacts can be easily swapped out. I'm the second owner so I try to take advantage of any repair teardown to get other work done.
 
I'm having a hard time imagining enough water remaining in the starter to freeze it solid. I wonder if you've got water in a plug that's pushing the contacts apart when it freezes.

I'm pretty sure the solenoid is freezing as there is no solenoid click that would normally be heard if the battery was just low or cold. Never seen this before so I'm learning the hard way not to ford a river right right before a cold snap!
 
Started seems two be dried out... Now the rear drum brakes need attention! Everything is sheet ice outside at the moment on the road and parking lots so when I pulled up to the curb to pick up my wife she laughed asked me if I was trying to good somewhere while see watched the rear wheel spin even though I was stationary and applying the brake. Sheesh! Can't it just warm up for a day?!? Heaters are now pointed at theuhib assemblies... Perhaps it's time I finally did the tundra upgrade on the front and a disk conversion on the rear.
 

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