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This was a cover story in the Denver Post today.


http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_3067873



Big oil reaps windfall predating big storms
At the refinery: Profit margins per barrel of gasoline triple in a year On Wall Street: Index of major oil stocks up 49 percent so far in 2005
By Steve Raabe
Denver Post Staff Writer




An oil spill is inspected after Valero's refinery in Port Arthur, Texas, was flooded by Hurricane Rita on Saturday. Gross profit margins climbed well before storms. (AP / Rick Bowmer )


The nation's oil refiners are marking up wholesale gasoline prices to historically high levels, causing motorists to pay near- record amounts at the gas pump.

Gasoline shortages from hurricanes Katrina and Rita have caused some price spikes. But refiners' gross profit margins have been climbing steadily for the past year, long before the hurricanes hit.

A Denver Post analysis shows that gross profit margins on gasoline at the nation's refineries have more than tripled from about $7 a barrel in September 2004 to $22.77 on Tuesday.

Gross refining margins - calculated by subtracting refiners' crude-oil purchase price from their wholesale gasoline selling price - have been a key contributor to huge increases in net profit for the biggest oil companies.

The nation's top five oil companies - Exxon Mobil, BP, Royal Dutch Shell, Chevron and ConocoPhillips - own 42 percent of U.S. refining. In the first half of 2005 compared with the first half of 2004, net income increased 65 percent for ConocoPhillips, 39 percent for Royal Dutch Shell, 38 percent for Exxon Mobil and 31 percent for BP. Chevron reported a 4 percent decrease.

"It's very difficult for consumers to go to the gas pump and pay record high prices for gas and then open the business page and see where oil companies are making record profits," said U.S. Sen. Mark Pryor, D-Ark., the ranking Democrat on a Senate consumer affairs subcommittee.

"My suspicion is that (refiners) are taking advantage of the American public," he said. "We can't prove it yet,


but that's my suspicion."

Energy analysts and economists say refiners have been able to increase margins for two main reasons:

Limited refining capacity that can cause spot shortages of gasoline. When supplies are short, prices - and margins - go up. "The refining margins are huge right now," said Rich Gilbert, economics professor at the University of California, Berkeley. "There isn't enough gasoline to go around."

Lack of competition in the refining sector. Big mergers that brought together companies such as Exxon and Mobil, Chevron and Texaco, and Conoco and Phillips have reduced competition.

Refiners say the high margins reflect gasoline supplies that were tight before Hurricane Katrina and have since grown much tighter. Yet, throughout the past year, refinery profit margins have climbed sharply compared with crude-oil prices.

Average gross margins have soared from $6.44 a barrel on Sept. 27, 2004, to $22.77 Tuesday, a 254 percent increase, according to a price analysis by Bryant Gimlin of Fort Lupton-based Gray Oil Co. During the same period, crude-oil prices rose 31 percent.

High refining margins and oil- company profits have sparked calls for investigations of price gouging and anti-competitive practices.

On Sept. 1, during Hurricane Katrina, refinery gross profits hit record levels of nearly $32 a barrel on gasoline sales, compared with historic margins of $6 to $8 a barrel. The increase in the refining profit margin that day was 434 percent over the same day a year earlier.

The Federal Trade Commission has started an investigation to determine whether illegal industry behavior may have led to gasoline price gouging after Hurricane Katrina.

Political leaders in Colorado and elsewhere are calling for enactment of anti-gouging laws to protect consumers - even though gouging is hard to define and even harder to prosecute.

"The entire industry needs to be looked at under a bright light," said U.S. Rep. Diana DeGette, D-Colo. "We can't have oil companies and refiners making record profits at the expense of the national economy."

Colorado's average price for regular gas is $2.88 a gallon, down 19 cents from the Sept. 7 record high but more than $1 higher than last year. But consumers could see another round of gasoline price increases as damage from Hurricane Rita to oil wells and refineries around the Gulf of Mexico is reported.

Suncor USA, operator of Colorado's only refinery, said the high margins are a function of supply-and-demand economics. As supplies tighten and demand remains strong, prices rise. Major refiners such as Valero, BP, ConocoPhillips, Shell and Chevron declined to comment for this article.

Gross refining margins are defined as the amount of money refiners make from selling gasoline and other products, minus their costs for crude oil. The refiners' net profits are lower than gross margins because of additional costs such as operating expenses, payroll, marketing, distribution and taxes.

Large oil companies do not divulge net margins in their financial


statements.
"Margins are subject to complicated bookkeeping and can be very difficult to unravel," said UC-Berkeley's Gilbert. "But when you see companies' stock prices go up by 50 percent, you know that the stock market thinks they are profitable."

The Amex Oil Index, which reflects the stock prices of 13 of the world's largest oil companies, is up 49 percent so far this year. By comparison, the Dow Jones industrial average, which tracks 30 blue-chip stocks, has dropped 3 percent so far this year.

"There's no question refining margins are up," said Steve Douglas, general manager of supply and marketing for Suncor's refinery in Commerce City. "But you've got to consider that the refining industry has been in a deep trough for a number of years when margins were small or nonexistent."

No new refineries have been built in the U.S. since 1976, and current high margins reflect tight supplies of gasoline and other refined products, Douglas said.

"We've gotten to the point where supply and demand are balanced on a pinhead," he said. "If you get the smallest little upset in production - maybe a refinery down for a few days for maintenance - it's going to cause prices to spike because other refineries are already at peak production."

The supply-demand tightness exploded into shortage when Hurricane Katrina shut down 10 Gulf Coast refineries that supply about 18 percent of the nation's gasoline. Four of them remain closed and may not reopen for weeks or months.

Supplies of gasoline are much tighter than crude-oil supplies and thus are more susceptible to volatility and price increases, Douglas said.

"There isn't currently a shortage of crude oil in the U.S.," he said. "But on the production side, we're so close to capacity that shortages can happen quickly and create price spikes."

Suncor's Commerce City refinery gets much of its crude oil from Canada, Colorado and Wyoming, not the Gulf of Mexico, and thus was not affected by supply disruptions from Katrina. But its profit margins were consistent with increases in the rest of the industry, Douglas said.

If the refinery had cut wholesale gasoline prices to reflect its comparatively lower-priced non-Gulf crude, then out-of- state refiners that rely in part on Gulf crude to supply Colorado would have sold their gasoline to other markets at higher prices, leaving Colorado with a shortage, Douglas said.

Energy analysts say that while public scorn often is directed at gas-station owners, the retailers survive on profits of just a few cents a gallon.

But the sharp increase in refining margins is a key reason gasoline prices at the pump reached record highs earlier this month.

"I try to keep a 10-cent (a gallon) margin. Sometimes I make it; sometimes I don't," said Tom Greenlee, owner of a Denver Tech Center Sinclair station. "If you're looking for profits, I guess refiners are where you'd look."

Suncor began offering rebates to some of its fuel customers when wholesale prices spiked during the hurricane. Suncor temporarily rebated 25 cents a gallon to the 200 Phillips 66 stations it supplies in Colorado.

Suncor continues to offer rebates of 10 cents a gallon on jet fuel for airline customers at Denver International Airport. To date, Suncor has spent more than $600,000 on the jet-fuel rebates, Douglas said.

Staff writer Ross Wehner contributed to this report.
 
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Boston_Runner said:
That is Bush Junior and his oil buddies at their best. Everybody wins except for the middle class and the poor.

They (Bush and his oil buddies) will somehow manage to blame it all on the environmentalists.
 
It's always interesting to see crude oil prices drop and yet gas prices at the pumps go up, at least here in Atlanta, so it does mean someone is making a lot more profit and it makes sense it's the refiners.

Scott
 
Wow, here we go with the Bush bashing. Werent the left wing/environmentalists the ones blocking drilling in the Alaskan Arctic Wildlife Preserve? Now oil prices are high and all you wanna do is moan about it. Way to shoot yourself in the foot and make the rest of us hear your screaming.

Reason for refineries profits is cause demand has increased but capacity hasnt. Noone invested in more refineries to increase capacity cause in the 80s and 90s gas was so cheap that it was unprofitable to make that investment in infrastructure, and so now that lack of investment is catching up with us. Its all supply and demand, take an economics course before spouting off politics.
 
UFourRunner said:
Wow, here we go with the Bush bashing. Werent the left wing/environmentalists the ones blocking drilling in the Alaskan Arctic Wildlife Preserve? Now oil prices are high and all you wanna do is moan about it. Way to shoot yourself in the foot and make the rest of us hear your screaming.

Reason for refineries profits is cause demand has increased but capacity hasnt. Noone invested in more refineries to increase capacity cause in the 80s and 90s gas was so cheap that it was unprofitable to make that investment in infrastructure, and so now that lack of investment is catching up with us. Its all supply and demand, take an economics course before spouting off politics.

I voted for bush both times and he has not done anything to address this problem even when he controlled both houses of congress. He has had time to make changes and get more refineries built. Don't drink the koolaid and try to defend this obvious screwing of the middle class and poor. Bush deserves to be bashed!!!
 
UFourRunner said:
Wow, here we go with the Bush bashing. Werent the left wing/environmentalists the ones blocking drilling in the Alaskan Arctic Wildlife Preserve? Now oil prices are high and all you wanna do is moan about it. Way to shoot yourself in the foot and make the rest of us hear your screaming.

Reason for refineries profits is cause demand has increased but capacity hasnt. Noone invested in more refineries to increase capacity cause in the 80s and 90s gas was so cheap that it was unprofitable to make that investment in infrastructure, and so now that lack of investment is catching up with us. Its all supply and demand, take an economics course before spouting off politics.

Q.E.D.
 
If you had bought energy funds12-24 months ago you would instead be :)

When oil prices go up these funds soar!

What other industry prospers when its raw material price increases?
 
UFourRunner said:
Wow, here we go with the Bush bashing. Werent the left wing/environmentalists the ones blocking drilling in the Alaskan Arctic Wildlife Preserve? Now oil prices are high and all you wanna do is moan about it. Way to shoot yourself in the foot and make the rest of us hear your screaming.

Reason for refineries profits is cause demand has increased but capacity hasnt. Noone invested in more refineries to increase capacity cause in the 80s and 90s gas was so cheap that it was unprofitable to make that investment in infrastructure, and so now that lack of investment is catching up with us. Its all supply and demand, take an economics course before spouting off politics.

Exxon made 16 billion during the last two quarter, plus the new tax cuts that their buddy Bush Junior just handed to them. You would think they can affort to build more refineries.
 
SWUtah said:
He has had time to make changes and get more refineries built. [/B]

I saw a story about how a refinery that was planned 15 years ago has yet to break ground due to all the environmental studies, and other related issues necessary to build it. All of this red tape was put in place by the environmentalists. If it took 15 years just to plan a refinery, Bush really has no magic wand to build more refineries in a few short years.
 
Boston_Runner said:
Exxon made 16 billion during the last two quarter, plus the new tax cuts that their buddy Bush Junior just handed to them. You would think they can affort to build more refineries.

See the post just after yours. Refineries take a LOOOOOONNNG time to build because of so much environmental red tape.
 
My Back Yard

I suppose you think Bush also caused the Hurricanes and used some sort of telepathic message telling the poor not to evacuate.

France does not have an energy problem they run primarily on Nuclear Power. But hell we can't drill in Alaska because we might disrupt the sleep of the Caribou much less put a Nuc. Plant in the backyard.

Bush isn't to blame. Blame everyone, and if You don't vote then don't complain.
 
I honestly dont understand why everyone is so against nuke. Sure you have byproducts, but if stored in a centralized contained location (Utah salt mines) it poses no harm to anyone or anything. Everyone wants cheap clean power, yet all you ever hear is NIMBY. There hasnt been a nuke plant built in over 20 years in the US, yet they produce as close to no emissions as possible. And forget about bringing up Chernoble, that was an EXPERIMENT and yes did fail (leave it to Commies), but there are countless safeguards in current reactors to prevent the uranium rods from overheating their surrounding water, that barring a totally moronic incompetance which even current systems will prevent, they could not fail.

And I am the middle class and work my butt off to afford my 4Runner and its gas all of other life's necessities. I dont claim Bush to be great, but given what was handed to him by previous administration and events since then, I think hes done a darn good job coping with it.

BTW, that 16 billion, would that refer to net profit... dont think so. Walmart, the worlds largest corporation, their net profit was $10 billion. So how would Exxon, #2, have a higher net income????
 
UFourRunner said:
I honestly dont understand why everyone is so against nuke. Sure you have byproducts, but if stored in a centralized contained location (Utah salt mines) it poses no harm to anyone or anything. Everyone wants cheap clean power, yet all you ever hear is NIMBY. There hasnt been a nuke plant built in over 20 years in the US, yet they produce as close to no emissions as possible. And forget about bringing up Chernoble, that was an EXPERIMENT and yes did fail (leave it to Commies), but there are countless safeguards in current reactors to prevent the uranium rods from overheating their surrounding water, that barring a totally moronic incompetance which even current systems will prevent, they could not fail.

And I am the middle class and work my butt off to afford my 4Runner and its gas all of other life's necessities. I dont claim Bush to be great, but given what was handed to him by previous administration and events since then, I think hes done a darn good job coping with it.

BTW, that 16 billion, would that refer to net profit... dont think so. Walmart, the worlds largest corporation, their net profit was $10 billion. So how would Exxon, #2, have a higher net income????

Firstly company size is normally measured in Turnover or Gross Income not Net profit.

[Edit to make it more clear]Secondly Exxon had a net income of over $7.5B in each of their last 2 quarters. Which is up 32% from the same time last year. It's amazing that a company selling commodities can run at a Income before Taxes, Abnormals, etc of 15%

The question comes in in terms of how much profit taking can be allowed on a commodity NEEDED by people, and also if "price fixing" was done by companies. People seem to forget Enron and the California power crisis too quickly. Unfortunately it seems nobody is driving the point home, as there has been very little follow up on that.

What can we do, very simple: Use less gas/energy!! Get a more economical vehicle and/or drive less.
 
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bulldog-yota said:
Firstly company size is normally measured in Turnover or Gross Income not Net profit.

Secondly Exxon had a net income of over $7.5B in their last 2 quarters. Which is up 32% from the same time last year. It's amazing that a company selling commodities can run at a Income before Taxes, Abnormals, etc of 15%

The question comes in in terms of how much profit taking can be allowed on a commodity NEEDED by people, and also if "price fixing" was done by companies. People seem to forget Enron and the California power crisis too quickly. Unfortunately it seems nobody is driving the point home, as there has been very little follow up on that.

What can we do, very simple: Use less gas/energy!! Get a more economical vehicle and/or drive less.

In addition, we should move toward fuel cells, hydrogen as a fuel, and more use of electrical power. We could also make more use of ethanol for gas engines and vegetable oil for diesels. Solar, wind power, geothermal, hydroelectric, etc. could be used to produce the electricity needed, and energy to remove hydrogen from seawater. A hydrogen-powered 4Runner would perform at least as good if not better than the current gasoline model. Nothing would be lost in function except that the exhaust would be clean (water) and we could remove the catalytic converters and all other pollution equipment. I haven
 
I didn't post this article to start a political bashing session. I'd much rather talk and read about trucks. I don't have an answer, or a solution, I'm just tired of high gas prices.

One thing I really don't understand is how the price will jump .20 in one day, then when barrel prices drop, it takes two weeks to see some break at the pump....
 
I'm not going to bash Bush but I'm not going to defend him either; I don't know enough about all this to know who deserves the blame. But I do know that the Democrats can quit complaining, I can guarantee they will be in control soon, and we'll see if they do any better. Regardless if this is the Bush administration's fault, it is going to be blamed by the general public. Goes with the territory of being in the position of authority.

UFourRunner said:
I honestly dont understand why everyone is so against nuke. Sure you have byproducts, but if stored in a centralized contained location (Utah salt mines) it poses no harm to anyone or anything. Everyone wants cheap clean power, yet all you ever hear is NIMBY. There hasnt been a nuke plant built in over 20 years in the US, yet they produce as close to no emissions as possible.
Don't even get me started on nuclear power! I work at a nuke plant and I can't believe the complaints I hear about building new plants and storing spent fuel. People really need to use some common sense with this whole energy thing. For instance, they complain about storing spent fuel at Yucca mountain. Well, I hate to break it, but the fuel has to go somewhere. Would you rather have it in one secure location where it can be retrieved for reprocessing and reuse later or spread out all over the US at different plants? Anyway, UFourRunner, new sites for nuke plants have been announced, and the new designs are a lot simpler, which makes them even safer.

Anyway, I'll get off my conservative soapbox now. Sorry for the off-topic rant. :arrow:
 
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