watches...

[Thai]

And you know damn well what the Fisher Price comment was meant to illustrate and it wasn't as a knock to your or anyone elses beloved Rolex or other fancy spec'd automatics.

Oh really? Hmm, someone is backtracking now...have you run for politics before? :bolt:

 

[hikenbike]

Oh really? Hmm, someone is backtracking now...have you run for politics before? :bolt:

Backtracking on what? If you took that literally then.....well.....there are no words.

 

[Cuffs]

Oh look! A unicorn!

 

[Thai]

Oh look! A unicorn!

You're right...lets get back on topic. What Rolex does your Man wear? Does he service it every 5 years or has he let it run till broke?

I am debating myself with this. My Rolex is 7 years old from date of manufacture. It still runs well (same +3 seconds/day like new). I am of the thought to let it run till it stops, but this may mean that when i do service it, it will be more costly. In addition, my Rolex still looks pretty new. Since Rolex does a complete overhaul including polishing and making it shiny again, i was going to wait till my watch is more beatup...thus more benefit for the buck. I don't know....

 

[1engineer]

Quick Note:

I was given a watch a few weeks ago by my family for my birthday. It is a Seiko 2nd Gen "Orange Monster" automatic dive watch with the rubber strap. I love this watch! Yes, it has hacking built in too. After I got this watch I went on many watch forums to read about it. I noticed several posts like "Don't do anything that will vibrate this watch" or "Take it off before showering." I thought that was odd as this is supposed to be a robust watch and good for 200M pressures and handle all the bumps and such that would be subjected during diving.

Now many of you know my hobby is mountain biking, and that was another few posts on "What not to do" with this watch. Since I have started wearing it I have been on 21 single track rides for a total of over 100 miles AND swam in the ocean AND dove to 4M AND taken showers (lol) with no problems from this watch. Just throwing it out there.

 

[Thai]

Now many of you know my hobby is mountain biking, and that was another few posts on "What not to do" with this watch. Since I have started wearing it I have been on 21 single track rides for a total of over 100 miles AND swam in the ocean AND dove to 4M AND taken showers (lol) with no problems from this watch. Just throwing it out there.

The main problem with mechanical watches is sudden quick powerful jolting shock. That is the main issue. For example, it is not advisable to go to a gun range with a mechanical watch, esp if you wear it on the arm that bares the brunt of the recoil. (I am right handed and wears my watch on the left arm...so, in essence, i could wear my Rolex to the gun range, but i choose not to take the risk.)

Everything you mentioned is fine. I take shower daily with my Rolex and clean it thoroughly with soap because i have to. No issue. Over many years, the O ring can wear out...and soap scum can damage it. I think that this applies more to folks who keep on opening their watch up (as in opening the back) and closing it repeatedly. Doing this wears the O-ring/seals/etc. faster and then you let in soap scums, dirt, sweat, acid, etc that can damage it faster.

 

[Intruder]

Greg, I came really close to buying an orange monster too except that I can't wear rubber straps (not allergic, just don't like the way they stick to my wrist on a hot day). I think you can get a Japanese version with a stainless steel bracelet but I wasn't willing to risk flea bay to get one. Love the simplicity of a good dive watch.

 

[1engineer]

Greg, I came really close to buying an orange monster too except that I can't wear rubber straps (not allergic, just don't like the way they stick to my wrist on a hot day). I think you can get a Japanese version with a stainless steel bracelet but I wasn't willing to risk flea bay to get one. Love the simplicity of a good dive watch.

[MENTION=66300]Intruder[/MENTION] This strap is different than my Citizen dive watches or my Casio Mudman. The "rubber" (plastic, rubber, silicon, whatever) band is much more supple and slicker. Believe it or not it does not stick or pull. Find one in a store and try one on. I really like this watch and the lume is very good. Vibration while riding so far is a non issue and believe me [MENTION=2]Thai[/MENTION] some of the hits are pretty hard lol. I only have a few bracelet watches and wear those for business meetings. Every other watch though has to be robust enough to handle my daily life tasks which might mean they have to be able to be submersed in hydraulic fluid, dig a hole, hammer nails, get wet or ride a trail. So far this one is doing well.

 

[Thai]

some of the hits are pretty hard lol. I only have a few bracelet watches and wear those for business meetings. Every other watch though has to be robust enough to handle my daily life tasks which might mean they have to be able to be submersed in hydraulic fluid, dig a hole, hammer nails, get wet or ride a trail. So far this one is doing well.

Thank goodness you have a 4runner with KDSS! Without KDSS, the side to side motion will kill any mechanical watch! (inside joke b/w me and 1engineer.)

 

[Intruder]

Find one in a store and try one on.

I would but I ended up buying an Oris Aquis and I'd really like to avoid buying any more watches. I have an SLR lens addiction to feed as well

 

[Victor_inox]

Quick Note:

I was given a watch a few weeks ago by my family for my birthday. It is a Seiko 2nd Gen "Orange Monster" automatic dive watch with the rubber strap. I love this watch! Yes, it has hacking built in too. After I got this watch I went on many watch forums to read about it. I noticed several posts like "Don't do anything that will vibrate this watch" or "Take it off before showering." I thought that was odd as this is supposed to be a robust watch and good for 200M pressures and handle all the bumps and such that would be subjected during diving.

Now many of you know my hobby is mountain biking, and that was another few posts on "What not to do" with this watch. Since I have started wearing it I have been on 21 single track rides for a total of over 100 miles AND swam in the ocean AND dove to 4M AND taken showers (lol) with no problems from this watch. Just throwing it out there.

Orange monster has cult following, very nice watch, cheap too, it might die sooner with activities you thowing on it but who cares you can replace it when that happens, enjoy your watch now.

 

[Victor_inox]

ASSUMING that I didn't accept it is whats truly sad.

You asked for advise, both of us told you not to buy it but you did anyway, it` was not assumption.
edit, I just missed the part where you said you didn`t bought it, I apologies. I`m glad we helped you not to make a $350mistake.
Holy sh1t you two impossible to leave alone for a night, you started a war.

 

[Cuffs]

You're right...lets get back on topic. What Rolex does your Man wear? Does he service it every 5 years or has he let it run till broke?

I am debating myself with this. My Rolex is 7 years old from date of manufacture. It still runs well (same +3 seconds/day like new). I am of the thought to let it run till it stops, but this may mean that when i do service it, it will be more costly. In addition, my Rolex still looks pretty new. Since Rolex does a complete overhaul including polishing and making it shiny again, i was going to wait till my watch is more beatup...thus more benefit for the buck. I don't know....

I know we've had it done several times over the years, but I can't say it's been on the exact 5 year interval... We also don't live where we bought it, but family is there, so we do take it to the original store (small, mom/pop jeweler, watch repair/service) when it gets done.
Hell, all our major jewelry purchases are from there.

 

[Victor_inox]

I would but I ended up buying an Oris Aquis and I'd really like to avoid buying any more watches. I have an SLR lens addiction to feed as well

Lens addiction is much worse IMHO. You made a beautiful pictures despite your choice of Nikon cameras. :sorry: i`m canon fanboy, can you tell?

 

[Intruder]

Lens addiction is much worse IMHO.

Oh I know. The only thing I'd replace my Oris with is a Seamaster but I'm just not willing to spend that kind of money on a watch right now no matter how nice it is. On the other hand you can never have too many lenses. I'm eyeing some wide angle primes right now...

 

[Victor_inox]

I know we've had it done several times over the years, but I can't say it's been on the exact 5 year interval... We also don't live where we bought it, but family is there, so we do take it to the original store (small, mom/pop jeweler, watch repair/service) when it gets done.
Hell, all our major jewelry purchases are from there.

with all new synthetic lubricants they use these days 5 years is recommended service interval for autos.
hardened lubricant can do more damage then good, try not to lubricate mountain bike drive train in 5 years.

 

[Victor_inox]

Oh I know. The only thing I'd replace my Oris with is a Seamaster but I'm just not willing to spend that kind of money on a watch right now no matter how nice it is. On the other hand you can never have too many lenses. I'm eyeing some wide angle primes right now...

Price is relative, I love mine, you can buy used on watchyouseek forum for about half of ask for forum preffered dealer on Omega subforum, he gave 30% discount on new. my wife has different opinion on number of lenses one should have, based on "how many pairs of shoes" she could buy instead.

 

[LandCruiser]

Greg, I came really close to buying an orange monster too except that I can't wear rubber straps (not allergic, just don't like the way they stick to my wrist on a hot day). I think you can get a Japanese version with a stainless steel bracelet but I wasn't willing to risk flea bay to get one. Love the simplicity of a good dive watch.

Orange monsters come with metal bracelets in the US.

I have had three.

They're fine, but the variability in quality is what gets them. Some are very accurate (5 minutes a month) others lose that in a week.

The bezel will inevitably go bad. Build quality is all over the place, I had one with a bent second hand.

The longest I have had one is 5 years before it decided to die (I wasn't going to pay Seiko 200 bucks to fix it when a new one costs that). ...the shortest was 2 weeks.

 

[Thai]

Orange monsters come with metal bracelets in the US.

I have had three.

They're fine, but the variability in quality is what gets them. Some are very accurate (5 minutes a month) others lose that in a week.

The bezel will inevitably go bad. Build quality is all over the place, I had one with a bent second hand.

The longest I have had one is 5 years before it decided to die (maitenance didn't fix it and I wasn't going to pay Seiko 200 bucks to fix it when a new one costs that). The shortest was 2 weeks.

This matches my personal experience with Seiko5. [MENTION=96581]hikenbike[/MENTION]. The problem is that if you go to these watch forums, then you will see tons of fanboys blasting expensive watches and touting how reliable these Orients, Seikos, etc. are. Like most Swiss, I am sure that, for the most part, they are reliable. BUT, don't think that they are without issue, major or minor. Hikenbike blasted Tag for crown issue...but he did not experience it...he read it on a forum...which set his pants on fire which led to him returning a beautiful watch. All watch brands will have lemons (just like cars)...all will have stellar products.

But, for me, you get what you pay for. That is pretty much consistent with what i have experience with watches. Cheap watches will have cheap parts, variable quality control, and pretty much un-regulated from factory. Seiko and Swiss alike are no exception. Yeah, i am sure that there will be a lucky soul who got a great watch, but the cheaper you go, the less chance you get lucky. Facts of life IMHO.

Nothing is bullet-proof, esp. mechanical watches!

 

[LandCruiser]

I have a refurb black Rolex Submariner from the 70s I just replaced the sapphire glass on.

Thing is a tank, it usually loses 80-120 seconds a month if I wear it 8-10 hours a day.