watches...

[Victor_inox]

Unlike you, i have not had a good experience with watchmaker regulation. The ONLY time that i had to do it was with my Omega Deville Coaxial (original one back early 1990's). It had caliber 2500B. My watchmaker who also sold me the watch (Authorized Dealer) was trained by Omega to regulate the Coaxial. It took me two trips back and forth (after sale) to the watchmaker for regulating. And this is with a COSC certified watch.

Without proper regulation to different positions (and temps, etc.) at the factory, the variation in rate by position could be very big. So, although the watchmaker can regulate post-sale, it does not mean that positional variation in rate will be good.

Myota movements not coaxial, regulation is straight forward, Timing machine and steady hands all it takes. timing machine can position movement in various positions then in a few seconds you`ll get the reading.
Maybe I make it sounds easy but in fact it`s not that complicated.
I have POS Invicta with swiss sellita sw200 movement I regulated to +0.5sec a day. I can make it dead on but I prefer my watches a little fast, it`s easier to stop it for a couple seconds once a week or month. So far it stays that way for a couple of years, very consistent in my books.

 

[Victor_inox]

Not sure about you, but I hate scratches on anything! I know that off-roaders say those silly things, but I am sure that they only say it to feel better about themselves! When I was off-roading, I wanted to do everything possible to minimize damage to my vehicles. Why would I want scratches? And everyone in my group is the same way.

For watches, this is the same way. Scratches suck, no matter how you put it. At least with metal, you can buff it out. What do you do with a black watch? Re-paint it? Re-coat it?

But, Victorinox is right...black sucks...the same reason why black paint on cars sucks (personal experience).

Titanium is soft (from what I hear) and that is why they scratch easily. My Seiko is titanium and it scratches just from me looking at it the wrong way!

agreed, people always found a way to justify ****ed up finish on their trucks,watches, jeans,etc. saying silly things like it gave them character.
IOwned black Mercedes AMG once, never again, most impractical color ever.
damn thing was clean first 20 minutes after detailing,maybe in less dusty states it`s not a concern but here in Colorado black sucks.
Black finish on watches impossible to fix properly, easiest way is to strip it off and sand blast, brush or polish the case.

 

[Thai]

agreed, people always found a way to justify ****ed up finish on their trucks,watches, jeans,etc. saying silly things like it gave them character.
IOwned black Mercedes AMG once, never again, most impractical color ever.
damn thing was clean first 20 minutes after detailing,maybe in less dusty states it`s not a concern but here in Colorado black sucks.

Black tall box + Off-roading = scratch magnet!

 

[stanleybb50]

So I set this to my cell phone/Fios clock (which always agree with each other) on the turn of the month. 27 days later, this is all the further it is off.

I guess it's hit/miss with these movements and I got lucky?

And please don't give me a smart a** response, because I'm not trying to be an a** by posting this - just asking a question...

 

[Thai]

So I set this to my cell phone/Fios clock (which always agree with each other) on the turn of the month. 27 days later, this is all the further it is off.

I guess it's hit/miss with these movements and I got lucky?

And please don't give me a smart a** response, because I'm not trying to be an a** by posting this - just asking a question...

Whatever you're doing, keep doing it! Is your watch reading 9:56? That would be around +4 seconds per day. That is plenty good!

 

[Victor_inox]

Whatever you're doing, keep doing it!

+1 or not doing it.

 

[stanleybb50]

Yeah its probably like 2.5 min fast I think? Not bad I guess. I pretty much just wear it to work and then sit it on my nightstand facing up when I get home until the next morning. On the weekends, I just try to wear it here/there as well.

Kinda works out well by being fast - lol gets me to meetings earlier...

 

[Thai]

Yeah its probably like 2.5 min fast I think? Not bad I guess. I pretty much just wear it to work and then sit it on my nightstand facing up when I get home until the next morning. On the weekends, I just try to wear it here/there as well.

Kinda works out well by being fast - lol gets me to meetings earlier...

Fast is good... at upper limit of COSC limit... nothing to complain about! Try to put your watch with the crown UP at night... as in pointing up to ceiling. Most mechanical watch tend to run slightly slower this way. But mechanicals are unique... so this may not work for all.

 

[Thai]

While i was reading up on Seiko5, i found this review interesting, if not just for the nice pics! Link: Review: Seiko 5 Sport SNZG13 | watch reviews on worn&wound

For me, i am dying to get my hands on one of those Seiko Spring Drive watches! I just don't like the recent move to make bigger and bigger watches. I don't care about fashion because a big watch (on my wrist) looks like crap!

 

[Dawg4Runner]

Here is Rolex Turn-O-Graph (2006) with Jubilee band and hidden clasp: (IMHO, the best designed band I have seen)

Very nice Thai! My wife has a similar Lady Datejust with the same type of band. They did a great job blending the clasp into the band.

Her edc watch is a Victorinox Base Camp

 

[Thai]

My wife has a similar Lady Datejust with the same type of band.

Not sure if you know this, but your wife's watch has an excellent movement (caliber 2235). Here is a review of it: Untitled

Everyone who likes mechanical watches needs to read it. Is Rolex movement perfect? No, there are some minor issues (e.g. thin steel post for oscillating weight), but all of which is solved with recommended servicing. Rolex calibers (along with chronometer-grade ETA 2892) are extremely proven to be accurate, reliable, and very durable. Seikos and Citizens automatic movements are reliable and durable for sure, but traditionally lack accuracy...they are tuned at best +/-15 seconds/day. (Exception to this are the modern Grand Seiko automatic movements that are tuned to -3/+5 seconds/day parameter...slightly edging out COSC. Thus, Grand Seikos cost as much as modern day Omegas and Rolexes.)

 

[hikenbike]

What do you guys know about ETA 6498.2 mechanical manual winding movement? Pros and cons? Is it manual winding only? How long does the power reserve last from a full wind? Can't find too much on this.

Saw this nice watch and was just curious......

FS Victorinox Swiss Army Airboss Mach 4

 

[Thai]

Don't know much but no oscillating weight probably means hand wind.

 

[Thai]

That is an old ass movement debuting around 1950...beats 18,000 bph. Personally, i would pass. Slow beat = low accuracy. Slow beat is controversial because proponents say that it is good for longevity, but i belong in the camp that slow beat equals poor accuracy with minimal (if at all) benefit to longevity.

Hand wound = no thanks also. PIA. Possibly more maintenance due to increased wear, but supposedly these hand-wound movements are reinforced for such activity.

I prefer chronometer-grade ETA 2892 (or even 2824, again chronometer grade). I would not bother with other ETA movements. Personal bias.

 

[hikenbike]

That is an old ass movement debuting around 1950...beats 18,000 bph. Personally, i would pass. Slow beat = low accuracy. Slow beat is controversial because proponents say that it is good for longevity, but i belong in the camp that slow beat equals poor accuracy.

Hand wound = no thanks also. PIA. Possibly more maintenance due to increased wear, but supposedly these hand-wound movements are reinforced for such activity.

I prefer chronometer-grade ETA 2892 (or even 2824, again chronometer grade). I would not bother with other ETA movements. Personal bias.

From what I read so far about it, the accuracy is better than full auto but certainly not quite that of quartz. Might be off about 5-10 sec/day normally. Power reserve is better than auto as well - about 50-60 hours as opposed to 30-40. Just another kind of auto. Might be interesting.

That Dive Master 500 I posted the other day is run on a 2892-A2 ebauche (don't know what grade that is) and gets great reviews because of it. Its usually found in the more expensive watches. Performance and durability are supposedly outstanding but I just got a dive watch. No more quartz for me.

 

[Thai]

From what I read so far about it, the accuracy is better than full auto but certainly not quite that of quartz. Might be off about 5-10 sec/day normally. Power reserve is better than auto as well - about 50-60 hours as opposed to 30-40. Just another kind of auto. Might be interesting.

Where did you read that? From fanboys of that watch? 18k bph is slow. It won't compete with good chronometer grade ETA2892/2824. Yeah, there are other things that affect accuracy, but beat speed is very important...and there is no way anyone going to tell me that a ETA made in the 1950s will be as accurate as a good ETA 2892.

Power reserve is a non-issue...i never wind my Rolex. I do wear my Rolex every other day...and no issue. When you have to wind it every 50 hours for many years, you have wear and tear to deal with along with other (normal) mechanical issues. Again, i don't see a point of a hand-wound watch on a wrist. Hand-wound is cool on a pocket watch...but that is where the coolness ends (for me).

 

[Thai]

That Dive Master 500 I posted the other day is run on a 2892-A2 ebauche (don't know what grade that is)

Unless it is made of solid gold (or has unique complication), the price of admission to buy that watch will give you a "ballpark" idea of what grade it is.

 

[WXman]

All this crap is overpriced.

I rock a $48 Casio G-Shock and it does everything I need and is indestructible.

 

[Thai]

All this crap is overpriced.

I rock a $48 Casio G-Shock and it does everything I need and is indestructible.

Another @slapdaddy!

Did you know that your 4runner is overpriced? A Yugo with Dynomax VT muffler can do the same thing and is much cheaper. An Xterra can do the same with cheaper parts without cracking the front frame. A Wrangler can climb all over your 4runner while going in reverse. If all these don't make sense, then you know why we are all laughing at you.

 

[hikenbike]

...and there is no way anyone going to tell me that a ETA made in the 1950s will be as accurate as a good ETA 2892.

......Again, i don't see a point of a hand-wound watch on a wrist. Hand-wound is cool on a pocket watch...but that is where the coolness ends (for me).

Why can't a movement DESIGNED (not made) in the 1950's (if that is true) be as or more accurate than a newer movement? Makes no sense. Damn, if anything, I might trust a design thats been around and proven for that long of a time MORE than others.

Many might think the hand winding is unique, uncommon these days, and ADDS to the coolness.