Weight of tire question

[Falls]

Although I'm concerned about gas milage and prices , it is what it is and still want to get the best I can with in reason since this is my DD and 25k per year does add up.

Ok in picking out a AT tire ::::::::::

Stock Donflops 36lbs each. 265/65/17

I'm running Revos that are 43 lbs each (get pretty good milage with them 17+ in the city) 265/70/17

GY SA AT "P" weigh in at 44lbs. 265/70/17

GY SA AT "C" weigh in at 48lbs. 265/70/17

BFG AT (which I have ruled out I think) weigh 47lbs. 265/70/17

I would try Nitto's but there is one guy here that carry's them and he knows it , they are the same prices as BF's.

When selecting a tire what kills milage the most , tread pattern or weight / both ?? Is the weight thats called rolling resistance or both ?

If I do for eg: GY SA AT "P" vs "C" thats a 4lb difference , how critical is that ?

By doing an up sizing from Donlop to the Revo was a 7lb increase . I've never run 265/65 so I don't have a comparable difference .

Even though I used to work for GY when I was 16-18 y/o we delt with earth mover tires so the above comparison didn't matter .

I've read the reviews at DT and TR on the above . I try to read thee bad reviews to I can get a perspective of peoples complaints as well as the likeness of the tires.

I probably can squeeze the rest of the summer out of the Revos long as the is no off road , but that takes the fun out ....lol. Soon as I can get my hands on a set of rims , FJ's , maybe tundras , then I'll pull the trigger on do my front level kit , new tires & rims and probably leave it at that.

Thanks all , sorry for the questions. I had put up a similar post back quite a while but couldn't find it,so maybe we'll get some different perspectives this time around.

 

[alaskaman]

Tires are important. Go for the one your gut tells you you really like.

 

[Thai]

Falls, you know my answer(s) already...BFG AT KO or GY SA or Michelin LTX A/T-2.

GY SA has been known to drop MPGs more than your average AT tire. I am sure that BFG AT KO also drop MPGs due to it's weight and more aggressive tread. However, is it a lot? I doubt it. For my G500, going from OEM highway tires to BFG AT KO, i lost maybe 0.5-1 mpg. Goodyear SA apparently drops more...i am not sure on this however.

Since you like off-roading Falls, i would stick to the tires above. If you favor more highway (since it's your DD), then LTX A/T-2 is an excellent choice. According to independent test, A/T-2 outperformed REVOs and GY SA in off-roading...so, it can't be bad. If you are into off-roading and do it often enough, then BFG AT KO is a good choice. And if you are not sure, then GY SA is a good bridge between the two choices.

Oh yeah, i would ALWAYS pick LR-rated tire over P-rated tire if i had a choice for a SUV/truck. With LR C, that is just perfect for ride and toughness.

Good luck.

BTW, i think that i will kill a chicken for you when you FINALLY install that lift with new tires!

 

[Falls]

Falls, you know my answer(s) already...BFG AT KO or GY SA or Michelin LTX A/T-2.

GY SA has been known to drop MPGs more than your average AT tire. I am sure that BFG AT KO also drop MPGs due to it's weight and more aggressive tread. However, is it a lot? I doubt it. For my G500, going from OEM highway tires to BFG AT KO, i lost maybe 0.5-1 mpg. Goodyear SA apparently drops more...i am not sure on this however.

Since you like off-roading Falls, i would stick to the tires above. If you favor more highway (since it's your DD), then LTX A/T-2 is an excellent choice. According to independent test, A/T-2 outperformed REVOs and GY SA in off-roading...so, it can't be bad. If you are into off-roading and do it often enough, then BFG AT KO is a good choice. And if you are not sure, then GY SA is a good bridge between the two choices.

Oh yeah, i would ALWAYS pick LR-rated tire over P-rated tire if i had a choice for a SUV/truck. With LR C, that is just perfect for ride and toughness.

Good luck.

BTW, i think that i will kill a chicken for you when you FINALLY install that lift with new tires!

Thai, I have no problem doing it but it's time , dang , everytime I think I have time to myself to do something to my truck something else comes up. Being the only kid left in the family and at 46 y/o I kind of have become the parent to my parents. Oh well they are well worth it The last set of rims I had lined up I backed out on because when it came right down to it he started to act a little fishy and asked for information he didn't need , so I backed off.

My orig. question was how does weight effect milage , but I guess I'll get what I want and say the hell with it. I just hate to break my good gas milage .

LT C is a perfect rating , but for certain tires and the amount of road driving I do P may be the compromise.

 

[Thai]

If mileage is a major concern and you still want good off-road traction, then i would seriously consider LTX A/T-2.

 

[Thai]

Falls, what did you finally decide?

 

[Bravo1]

I also looked at the LTX AT/2 but it is a Load Range E in the LT configuration...isn't that defeating the purpose of staying with the load range C?

 

[Falls]

If mileage is a major concern and you still want good off-road traction, then i would seriously consider LTX A/T-2.

Milage is always a concern in these times , but I have a V8 4x4 so...... I've just got such good gas milage with my Revos where in summer blend fuel , city driving I'm pulling 17+. For this vehicle this is awesome IMO , and just want to stay somewhere in that range , still have a nice ride , decent rain/snow traction. I want to look at those Mich's in person.

 

[rook]

This data is a little old now, but some of the tires are still in production.
excerpt from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-rolling_resistance_tires

Some tires available in 2003 ranked by coefficient from lowest (least wasteful), according to the United States National Academy of Sciences Transportation Research Board Special Report 286[4] and the March 2003 Green Seal report on the topic[6].

* 0.00615 Bridgestone B381 P185/70R14
* 0.00650 Michelin SYMMETRY P225/60R16
* 0.00683 Michelin TIGER PAW AWP P225/60R16
* 0.00700 Bridgestone DUELER H/T 113S P265/70R17
* 0.00709 Michelin RUGGED TRAIL T/A P285/70R17
* 0.00754 Michelin LTX A/S P255/65R17
* 0.00758 Goodyear INTEGRITY (OE) P225/60R16
* 0.00760 Bridgestone INSIGNIA SE 200 89S P195/65R15
* 0.00767 Michelin RUGGED TRAIL T/A P245/65R17
* 0.00780 Continental Ameri-G4S WS P235/75R15
* 0.00795 Michelin TPAW TOURING TR/SR P215/70R16
* 0.00810 Bridgestone DUELER H/T 104S P235/70R16
* 0.00813 Goodyear Invicta GL 235/75R15
* 0.00825 Continental ContiTouring Contact CH95 P205/55R16
* 0.00829 Michelin CROSS TERRAIN SUV P255/75R17
* 0.00833 Michelin PILOT PRIMACY 275/50R19
* 0.00850 Michelin ENERGY LX4 P225/60R16
* 0.00854 Michelin PILOT LTX P265/70R17
* 0.00855 Michelin ENERGY MXV4 PLUS 235/65R17


To answer the weight question. I believe heavier tires would have more of an impact on stop and go driving vs highway mielage.

 

[CJ3Flyr]

Have you considered theNokian WR's? They have always intrigued me and I don't havew easy access or enough snow to warrant them....
:cheers:

 

[Falls]

Have you considered theNokian WR's? They have always intrigued me and I don't havew easy access or enough snow to warrant them....
:cheers:

Hard to find locally .