What's more desirable Rear Diff Lock or Manual Trans.

[ToyotaSan]

All things being equal what would be a better investment as far as more desirable? 1999/2000 with a Rear locking differential or something with a manual transmission? I'm trying to look for one with both but they are extremely rare and almost impossible to find.

 

[19994Runner5spd]

I have a 99' 5 speed without the rear locker. I'm looking for one now to put in it as it makes it so much more capable even stock.

That being said, it's much easier IMO to swap in a rear locker than a 5 speed would be.


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[hang10]

Don't look at buying a car for an investment.Buy one with the features YOU want.

 

[Mark_BC]

I have a 99' 5 speed without the rear locker. I'm looking for one now to put in it as it makes it so much more capable even stock.

That being said, it's much easier IMO to swap in a rear locker than a 5 speed would be.


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Agree, I'm in the same boat with a 98. I sprung for the manual without e-locker because who knows how long I'd have to wait to find one with it. I can always add in an e-locker. We could all get together for an e-locker install party.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-g...one-2001-sport-ed-trd-scd-32.html#post1023723

 

[ToyotaSan]

:thanks::thanks::thanks::amen::amen::cheers:

Don't look at buying a car for an investment.Buy one with the features YOU want.

Thanks for the advice. :thanks:

 

[absalom]

All things being equal what would be a better investment as far as more desirable? 1999/2000 with a Rear locking differential or something with a manual transmission? I'm trying to look for one with both but they are extremely rare and almost impossible to find.

Cars are not an investment, they are a purchase. That being said, here's a great example of an automatic with lockers vs manual with no lockers.





Auto w/ lockers vs. Manual w/ open diffs


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[Chuckles89]

5 Speed is so much more fun. You can always put in a $300 Aussie locker

 

[19994Runner5spd]

Let me just say an auto with rear diff will be better off road. Hands down as you have three wheels with power instead of two. Like I said though.... Easier to swap the locker than the transmission


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[Technoplasm]

locker... a 3rd gen is meant to be a convenient DD and off-roader.

 

[rkntoy]

Buy one with the features YOU want.

I would add to this "or one you can add the features you want within your budget"

I wanted a 2.7 with 5 speed, rear locker, flares, leather heated seats, and leather door panels. Never would have found one to buy, but the great thing about 4runners is if it was an option you can swap it in.

 

[Scramble]

As others have said, get a manual, they're more fun to drive. No searching for gears going up hill. A locker is much easier to add on later.

 

[Scramble]

I would add to this "or one you can add the features you want within your budget"

I wanted a 2.7 with 5 speed, rear locker, flares, leather heated seats, and leather door panels. Never would have found one to buy, but the great thing about 4runners is if it was an option you can swap it in.

Haha, agreed. I just picked up Limited sun visors & '02 Sport front bucket seats for my 99 base model. I plan on doing the oak leather door panels too but keep the cloth seats.

 

[Scramble]

Cars are not an investment, they are a purchase. That being said, here's a great example of an automatic with lockers vs manual with no lockers.





Auto w/ lockers vs. Manual w/ open diffs


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Unfortunately the comparison in that video is not a great example. Two different trucks & the driver in the T4R picked the wrong line.

 

[BoomSticks]

No question, e-locker.

 

[JayRolla]

I vote elocker. I hate sticks after driving them my whole life. This was my first auto and I love it.

 

[absalom]

Unfortunately the comparison in that video is not a great example. Two different trucks & the driver in the T4R picked the wrong line.

I don't know man, the lines looked pretty damn similar to me. You're right tho, they are different trucks. The first one was a bone stock 80-series on 30" snow tires, and the second was a 3rd gen with 3" lift on 33" mud terrains. I thought it'd be closer than it was.

Also, if you listen closely, you can hear the green truck stall. The other annoying thing about stick off road. This all coming from a diehard manual transmission lover.

 

[KidVermicious]

Also, if you listen closely, you can hear the green truck stall. The other annoying thing about stick off road.

4.7 case FTW!

Easier/cheaper to do on a first gen than a third gen, but still. Get you one.

 

[habanero]

I'd rather put up with the annoying parts of off-roading with a stick than not drive one, but it is my daily driver and I much prefer stick.

Having put an elocker axle in my 96 (not pre-wired) I'd do it that way again before I'd put an m/t into an auto.

IMO, of course. My husband searched for several months until he found the 99 m/t w/locker. It was not in state but we're game for road trips. That worked too.

 

[St Runner]

Start with the best frame, body and motor you can find with 4x4. I have already swapped in a R150f and I am picking up an e-locker axle and matching front diff next week. It only makes it worthwhile to change things around if your platform is good to start with. Otherwise keep looking until you find what you want

 

[JayRolla]

Unfortunately the comparison in that video is not a great example. Two different trucks & the driver in the T4R picked the wrong line.

Do you have a locker? It seems the guys that always say something against a locker does not have one, there is no wrong line when you have a locker.