What's the best braking set-up?
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pat161
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I just ordered the powerslot rotors and hawk pads from performance products, got a little sick of watching my dash shake on hard stops. I won't install them until next weekend at the earliest but I'll post an update. My buddy did this set up on his 03 Yukon and loves them, he lives in northern VT where mine really struggles, so hopefully it helps me too. Another friend had Brembo cross drilled on his 98 and loved them, I can't see you going wrong with Brembo. OEM is not the way to go as the rotors seem to warp far too easily. SOme people do what's called the Tundra swap where they basically swap in the whole brake set up off a Tundra, this mod seems to have a pretty good following as well.
mikehinthehouse
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sfm7315 said:
man I smoked some stock rotors, then brembos in about 2 months each, do yourself a favor and do the tundra brake upgrade... do some searching you will find it
trd_4runnin
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Re: Re: What's the best braking set-up?
I would say if you smoked some brembo rotors in 2 months then you either had already worn pads or you just are very hard on brakes. My 4Runner is just now needing new rotors and I've put about 15,000 miles on them, and who knows how many the p.o. put on them. You should start stopping earlier.
mikehinthehouse said:
I would say if you smoked some brembo rotors in 2 months then you either had already worn pads or you just are very hard on brakes. My 4Runner is just now needing new rotors and I've put about 15,000 miles on them, and who knows how many the p.o. put on them. You should start stopping earlier.
T4RBoarder
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Re: Re: What's the best braking set-up?
I'm with him I haven't had my brembos long and they are already warping and I am not hard on my brakes unless I have to be.
I actually have the Akebono Pads/Brembo setup on my car right now.
mikehinthehouse said:
I'm with him I haven't had my brembos long and they are already warping and I am not hard on my brakes unless I have to be.
I actually have the Akebono Pads/Brembo setup on my car right now.
PioneerMeta4
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I've seen a lot of people do the tundra swap and many people did the Brembo upgrade. I just went to my local pepboys and got some prostop rotors/pads. Not the best combo but certainly beats OEM. However, sorry to sound ignorant, is there a way to upgrade the drums? Or is swapping them for disc brakes the only upgrade?
mikehinthehouse
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Re: Re: Re: What's the best braking set-up?
Im not that hard on them...they had brand new pads as well. I live on flat land in the city... they just suck IMO...I also drive alot... Ive had the tundra brake upgrade for about a year and a half now with no issue whatsoever...
trd_4runnin said:
Im not that hard on them...they had brand new pads as well. I live on flat land in the city... they just suck IMO...I also drive alot... Ive had the tundra brake upgrade for about a year and a half now with no issue whatsoever...
QSVeilside
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Our trucks rotors are notorious for warping for several reasons:
1. Overweight with undersized brakes
2. In most cases, our rear drums are not adjusted - http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=43741
3. Improper torque on the lug nuts cause the rotors to warp prematurely
4. Probably the most overlooked problem - IMPROPER break in period on the new rotors/pads - clearly stated ON the Brembo box.
Everyone that has gone with the Tundra upgrade have all claimed a signicant increase in stopping ability. The Tundra pads have greater surface area which translates to more friction, which translates to more stopping power... However, whether the Tundras are actually better at stopping than the stock setup is not clear. Why? The Tundra rotors are also significantly more massive and are the SAME diameter as the limited rotors = more rotational inertia = less stopping power. Somewhat counterintuitive... The good thing is, more mass = more heat capacity = a longer time to heat up. Hence, we haven't heard anyone on this forum or YT that has done the Tundra upgrade complain of warped rotors... which says a lot about our front rotors, their reaction to heat buildup, and the necessity to keep our rear drums adjusted.
Brembo crossdrilled rotors and stainless Goodridge G-stop brakelines have been on my truck for over a year now with ZERO problems. Break in period was followed. Proper torque on the lug nuts. Rear drums always in spec. Go figure.
1. Overweight with undersized brakes
2. In most cases, our rear drums are not adjusted - http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=43741
3. Improper torque on the lug nuts cause the rotors to warp prematurely
4. Probably the most overlooked problem - IMPROPER break in period on the new rotors/pads - clearly stated ON the Brembo box.
Everyone that has gone with the Tundra upgrade have all claimed a signicant increase in stopping ability. The Tundra pads have greater surface area which translates to more friction, which translates to more stopping power... However, whether the Tundras are actually better at stopping than the stock setup is not clear. Why? The Tundra rotors are also significantly more massive and are the SAME diameter as the limited rotors = more rotational inertia = less stopping power. Somewhat counterintuitive... The good thing is, more mass = more heat capacity = a longer time to heat up. Hence, we haven't heard anyone on this forum or YT that has done the Tundra upgrade complain of warped rotors... which says a lot about our front rotors, their reaction to heat buildup, and the necessity to keep our rear drums adjusted.
Brembo crossdrilled rotors and stainless Goodridge G-stop brakelines have been on my truck for over a year now with ZERO problems. Break in period was followed. Proper torque on the lug nuts. Rear drums always in spec. Go figure.
trd_4runnin
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QSVeilside said:
Good post.
I know that our brakes are weak from the factory and all of the things you mentioned make a lot of sense. That being said, I have put more miles on my stock set up then these guys are getting out of their brembo's and I have a hard time believing that a brake company trusted on many higher end cars including the mitsu evo makes shitty brakes. Maybe that's just me, but it doesn't make a lot of sense.
trd_4runnin said:
I'd have to agree. I'm on my original rotors, and 3rd set of pads, in 156,000 miles, and I'm just now noticing some very slight vibration when braking.
I was checking out this thread to see what rotor/pad setup people were happy with, but I don't see much of a reason to stray from OEM, from what I've read so far.
BTW, I got 75,000 miles out of my first set of pads, then 25,000 out of some non-OEM pads, went back ot OEM, and these have 56,000 on them. I sure can't complain.
-S
I will always be an advocate of the Autozone Duralast rotors. I've personally never had one of them warp on me, but even if they do, they offer a 2-year warranty on them, so if they warp, take them in and bring home new ones all in the same day.
For pads, I used the Autozone ceramics (~$40), but would like to try Hawk LTS next time around.
For pads, I used the Autozone ceramics (~$40), but would like to try Hawk LTS next time around.
candisammie
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Other Parts to Change
To do the Tundra swap, what other changes will have to be made? Calipers, Lines, Pads....?
To do the Tundra swap, what other changes will have to be made? Calipers, Lines, Pads....?
trd_4runnin
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Rotors, calipers and pads. I believe the calipers will bolt right up where the existing calipers bolt and you just need to replace the rotors and pads with them, but hopefully someone else will chime in with a more definite answer.
candisammie
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Tundra Rotor Swap
One more question..... My runner is a '98 v6 2wd, what year model Tundra do I need to request parts for?
One more question..... My runner is a '98 v6 2wd, what year model Tundra do I need to request parts for?
mikehinthehouse
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do a search I think mine calipers came off a 2002 Seqouia the are stamped with something like SW13E they bolt directly up to existing lines, you will need 16 inch wheels to clear them, and the only modding you have to do is grind the dust plate just a lil bit to keep them from rubbing on the rotor.
