Wheel Balance Question

[Bftfan]

I put some new Michelin LXs on in November and had a balance issue at 65mph. Put about 1500 miles on the before I could get back the my tire shop re-balanced them all and said they were all a little off. Go figure. So now it's smooooth as glass at every speed except there's a slight wobble at 40 mph. WTF?! I'm going to retorque the lug nuts because who knows if they did that correctly but I can't beleive they STILL didn't get it right?! Any other ideas?

 

[bpatten0416]

Make sure your shop uses a flange plate adapter HAWEKA Flange Plate Adapters to balance your wheels. The Toyota truck wheels are notoriously hard to balance - impossible on a cone type balancer. I had the same issues - balance on a hunter system with flange plate adapter now smooth as butter at all speeds.

 

[Bftfan]

Make sure your shop uses a flange plate adapter HAWEKA Flange Plate Adapters to balance your wheels. The Toyota truck wheels are notoriously hard to balance - impossible on a cone type balancer. I had the same issues - balance on a hunter system with flange plate adapter now smooth as butter at all speeds.

Thanks, I'll have to take a look!

 

[ALLEGRO]

I would suggest getting a balance again and a rotation. You might find you have a bad tire by moving things around a bit.

 

[brdhntr]

Look at getting a road force balance. This system verifies the concentricity of your rims and tires and also measures the give in your side walls to verify if it is consistent all the way around. In other words if your tire has a weak side wall in one area it will bounce. Also the tire tech can index the rim and tire to cancel out imbalances.

 

[Bftfan]

Look at getting a road force balance. This system verifies the concentricity of your rims and tires and also measures the give in your side walls to verify if it is consistent all the way around. In other words if your tire has a weak side wall in one area it will bounce. Also the tire tech can index the rim and tire to cancel out imbalances.

Road force balancing? Interesting, I'll have to see if that's offered anywhere. I know they use a Hunter and thought that'd be ok but so far nope.

 

[gm350reratliff]

Make sure your shop uses a flange plate adapter HAWEKA Flange Plate Adapters to balance your wheels. The Toyota truck wheels are notoriously hard to balance - impossible on a cone type balancer. I had the same issues - balance on a hunter system with flange plate adapter now smooth as butter at all speeds.

I wouldn't say impossible, but you do have to try a little harder. I will agree that the flange plate adapter is the preferred method.

Bftfan-Sounds like you might have a bad tire. Find a shop that does road force balancing. If you have a bad tire, that method should find it.

 

[StevieT4R]

Road Force Balance is only accomplished on the Hunter machine. I have lug-centric aftermarket rims and had Les Schwab do the mount & balance. I do not have any issues/vibrations (they do not RFB). But, I'm going to with another tire setup and will have hub rings & RFB on the new setup (for good measure).

If you check in web, you cha find a tire place that does RFB.

 

[Nuke]

A hub centric balance on our lug centric wheels will always result in poor balancing. I had to convince more than one shop by having them remove the "balanced" wheel from the machine and put it right back on so they could see that it was off balance again. Most shops have the adapters but the Hawk machine seems to be the preferred machine to use.

RoadForce balancing will identify wheel and tire defects that never show up with standard balancing. I had a defective tire with a bad belt that passed the spin balance fine (even visually) but road like the tire was egg shaped. RoadForce picked it up right away.

 

[TBoliv]

Ok, so I'll bite. What about our stock Toyota wheels makes them so hard to balance using a backing cone?

 

[Nuke]

Ok, so I'll bite. What about our stock Toyota wheels makes them so hard to balance using a backing cone?

Backing cones work fine on hubcentric wheels. Our wheels are lugcentric.

 

[kai920]

Had my 4th balancing in 5k miles done today. The last one was out of balance the moment I drove out of the shop. The guy at the new discount tire store I went to(the last store obviously couldn't get it right) said T4R wheels need a lug centric balance with the hub centric plate behind the wheel. The standard cone type balancing is insufficient.

He showed me the plate he was using and said it is specific to the T4R and Toyota trucks and they special order them because our wheels are difficult to balance. No sure if that BS or not, but thats what he said.

So far so good, but I'm not yet convinced its not the tires.

 

[StevieT4R]

Not sure what is going on there? Wonder if one of your wheels is weighted off or out of round? The T4R SE wheels are hub centric - period. I actually run after market lug centric wheels and 32" AT tires. I had a "no-name" (you know the ones you see on the side street with chrome rims on display in the parking lot) shop mount & balance them. The were $120 cheaper and 10X quicker. I've had no issues what-so-ever and have taken these past 85 mph. Personally, I think it's BS!