Wheeler's superbump

[fourfive]

Those of you running Wheeler's superbumps on the front lca, did you install it on the rear of the lca like Wheeler's suggests or the front?



One of Unner's pics for reference.

I also got the wheelers superbumps installed up front. I know earlier in the thread I said that I called wheelers and they said to put the bumps on the rear of the LCA, but when I did this they didn't seem to sit very well back there. The rear of the LCA is skinnier than the front and a good bit of the bump was hanging off so I decided to put the stock one back on the back and put the new wheelers ones on the front of the LCA.

[MENTION=116467]Rock_Rat[/MENTION] & [MENTION=63487]A.Wilson013[/MENTION], any input?

 

[4-Ripcord]

Sub'd

 

[psraff]

Interesting. ... when I did mine, I put them on the front going off of what others did. Never even crossed my mind to stick them on the back. Did they say why they recommend to?

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[fourfive]

Interesting. ... when I did mine, I put them on the front going off of what others did. Never even crossed my mind to stick them on the back. Did they say why they recommend to?

They said that since the superbumps aren't specifically made for the 3rd gen 4runner, they will hit at an angle regardless if it is on the front or rear of the lca but they recommend the rear because the angle at which they hit is less. They were aware that the rear arm of the lca was narrower and would result in the superbumps partially hanging off the edge but they said it wouldn't change the integrity or function. So I was just curious which direction people went with the installation & what their observations were regarding the contact angle with the bumps installed on the front vs rear.

 

[AssBurns]

I put mine on the front but maybe putting them on the rear may help them last longer. I've had two of their bump stops fail already due to improper application and the way they push at an angle. They are only glued onto a washer and eventually after some abuse the glue starts to fail and the bump stop falls off on the trail. Luckily I caught the last one early enough to epoxy it back on and it lasted for a while like that but just failed a few weeks ago. If I continue to use them, i will try putting them on the rear to see if they last any longer.

 

[psraff]

They said that since the superbumps aren't specifically made for the 3rd gen 4runner, they will hit at an angle regardless if it is on the front or rear of the lca but they recommend the rear because the angle at which they hit is less. They were aware that the rear arm of the lca was narrower and would result in the superbumps partially hanging off the edge but they said it wouldn't change the integrity or function. So I was just curious which direction people went with the installation & what their observations were regarding the contact angle with the bumps installed on the front vs rear.

Interesting note on the angles. Never noticed. As stated, I did what others did, and to be honest it was probably out of laziness. It's much easier to get to the front then that back. Even more so on mine since I'm still running my original 881 lift on the front so getting them in was a tight fit! If I remember right, I had to actually jack up the front just to get the threads started. Once they're fully threaded and tight I only have about a 1/4" gap. I total expected my 881 lift to wear out once I put on my bumper and winch but the damn things just won't sag.... I can't justify upgrading while they still work and I have other projects I'm working on. Someday I know I will, and I look forward to it. But right now, I'm wrapping up many little projects and maintenance.

But to get back to your original question, and since my setup is way different they yours, it may be irrelevant, but I've had no ill effects that I've noticed what so ever. I say "way different" because I'm currently running 255/85x16 with 1 1/4" spacers, lifted, plus 1 1/2" BL and SPC UCA (I'm Building for 35s) so rubbing is damn near impossible in my condition right now. The most extreme flexing that I did was last year turning around on a mining road on the side of a mountain. A family was up there on 4 Wheelers and Side by sides and they spotted me turning around. Apparently, I had two wheels off the ground and stuffed the other two. Worked flawlessly.

So much so, I heard the dad asking his son, "So is this the kind of 4Runner you were talking about wanting?" They kid replied, "yeah, but it didn't have all this stuff on it." The dad just smiled and shook his head in approval...

It was a good day. :trophy:

 

[A.Wilson013]

Mine were on the front. Ran them for thousands and thousands of miles off road (more go-fast stuff- not "Crawling"), never an issue.

I think the design has changed, [MENTION=118730]AssBurns[/MENTION] as mine (none of the 3 sets I have ordered) were not glued to a washer like that, as far as I could tell... When did you order those?

 

[AssBurns]

Mine were on the front. Ran them for thousands and thousands of miles off road (more go-fast stuff- not "Crawling"), never an issue.

I think the design has changed, [MENTION=118730]AssBurns[/MENTION] as mine (none of the 3 sets I have ordered) were not glued to a washer like that, as far as I could tell... When did you order those?

I do mostly go fast stuff too and that's when they seem to fail the quickest. I ordered them back in December '16. They are, from what I remember, the newest design. Here is a picture of the ones I'm running.

 

[A.Wilson013]

I do mostly go fast stuff too and that's when they seem to fail the quickest. I ordered them back in December '16. They are, from what I remember, the newest design. Here is a picture of the ones I'm running.

Nuts. I wonder if the temperature difference between here and there is the disconnect?

 

[AssBurns]

Hmm maybe... [emoji848]
Either way I'd still recommend them even if they are a consumable. I just wish I can make them last more than 6 months. Seems like I'm the odd one though since nobody else had these issues. To anyone reading this, buy them, it's worth it!

 

[Rock_Rat]

Those of you running Wheeler's superbumps on the front lca, did you install it on the rear of the lca like Wheeler's suggests or the front?



One of Unner's pics for reference.


[MENTION=116467]Rock_Rat[/MENTION] & [MENTION=63487]A.Wilson013[/MENTION], any input?

I do have the superbumps on the front LCA's. I did quite a bit of research on the installation and don't actually recall why they needed to be installed on the rear of the LCA. That's where I installed mine.

I also considered purchasing two sets for each LCA but ran across this thread: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/wheelers-off-road/138040-wheelers-superbumps.html

Here'a a picture of how they look installed on the rear. Not sure how long they'll last or if they really made that much of a difference.

 

[Unner]

Those of you running Wheeler's superbumps on the front lca, did you install it on the rear of the lca like Wheeler's suggests or the front?



One of Unner's pics for reference.


[MENTION=116467]Rock_Rat[/MENTION] & [MENTION=63487]A.Wilson013[/MENTION], any input?

I didn't read your post at first and was looking at that picture like damn, that looks like my suspension. But mine isn't that clean... Then I realized it is mine haha.

Interesting. ... when I did mine, I put them on the front going off of what others did. Never even crossed my mind to stick them on the back. Did they say why they recommend to?

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I can't remember why they told me that, but I know I didn't like how it fit back there so I swapped to the front.

They said that since the superbumps aren't specifically made for the 3rd gen 4runner, they will hit at an angle regardless if it is on the front or rear of the lca but they recommend the rear because the angle at which they hit is less. They were aware that the rear arm of the lca was narrower and would result in the superbumps partially hanging off the edge but they said it wouldn't change the integrity or function. So I was just curious which direction people went with the installation & what their observations were regarding the contact angle with the bumps installed on the front vs rear.

When I met up with [MENTION=141769]Blackdawg[/MENTION] in Moab I was checking out his truck and he modified his superbumps to hit straight on. Here's his build thread description on how he did it.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...nkensteins-helper.390488/page-9#post-13568798

I do mostly go fast stuff too and that's when they seem to fail the quickest. I ordered them back in December '16. They are, from what I remember, the newest design. Here is a picture of the ones I'm running.

Hmm maybe... [emoji848]
Either way I'd still recommend them even if they are a consumable. I just wish I can make them last more than 6 months. Seems like I'm the odd one though since nobody else had these issues. To anyone reading this, buy them, it's worth it!

I've never heard of them falling apart like that. I ordered mine November of 15 and they've got 40k miles on them and they still look like new minus the dirt. Maybe you got a bad set. Try checking Tacomaworld and see if 2nd gen guys have had any issues lately since these are way more popular for them.

I do have the superbumps on the front LCA's. I did quite a bit of research on the installation and don't actually recall why they needed to be installed on the rear of the LCA. That's where I installed mine.

I also considered purchasing two sets for each LCA but ran across this thread: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/wheelers-off-road/138040-wheelers-superbumps.html

Here'a a picture of how they look installed on the rear. Not sure how long they'll last or if they really made that much of a difference.

When I spoke with them they said to only install one so you still have one of the hard stock ones as a final limit on compression.

 

[fourfive]

In case anyone was wondering, I asked Wheeler's if the Timbren SES bump stops hit at an angle since they have it listed in the 3rd gen 4runner section & they said yes it does hit at the same angle as the superbumps. The only reason why Wheeler's have the Timbrens listed in the 3rd gen section is because Timbren lists the SES bumps for the 96-2002 4runner. Wheeler's removed the superbumps from the 3rd gen section when they became aware of a few cases where the superbumps were getting pinched off the mount from hitting at an angle to prevent unsatisfied customers. They were also aware of some customers trimming the superbumps to improve the contact angle so they hit more flush and to their knowledge it didn't have an impact on the functionality.

Timbren (rubber) = $214
Superbumps (synthetic) = $57 & forum discount if you tell them you are a member



I've generally had good customer service experiences from companies that provide 3rd gen products but Wheeler's, SPC, & 4crawler have always gone way beyond my expectations to the point where I wanna intentionally buy stuff from them to keep them in business so they can keep cranking out 3rd gen products. I'm sure they get blasted with the same questions daily but they have always gone out of their way to be helpful and don't try to make you feel like an idiot :nerd: during the few phone/email exchanges I've had with them.

Edit:
According to Wheeler's, the superbumps that are listed for the 05+ tacoma or 03+ 4runner are the ones to be used for the 3rd gen 4runners (I've seen it mentioned before but thought I'd repeat it here since I heard it directly from them)