Wheels Question and Lift Question.

[K6UK]

I am about to pull the trigger on some changes to my 2006 limited. Namely Donahoes up front, Deaver springs in the rear, new wheels (since there is nothing for these 18's), and a set of MT/Rs in either 285s or 275s.

First of all, I would like to use these Lexus wheels, but I can't determine how wide they are. Does anyone here know if they are 7" or 7.5"? Will they have the right backspacing?

If those wheels won't work, does anyone know the ultimate width/backspacing for wheels with 285s on a 4th generation? I hopefully want to get this right the first time.

Also... since I am leaning towards 285s should I also do a body lift? And if so, 1", 1.25" or 1.5" - I am guessing the Roger Brown is always the right choice.

I am looking for a nice, balanced truck - I'm driving it to Alaska this summer!

Thanks,

-Mike

 

[AlexJet]

I have 3" suspension Lift + 275/70-R17 MT/R on AR Baja rims. After I've installed this setup, I found some rubbing to mud flaps and inner plastic fender. Looks like I found the way to fix mud flaps rubbing without removing them, but still trying to figure out how to deal with fender without cutting front triangles. May be 4Crawler 1" body lift will help, I'm not sure for now.
So it's good choice in tires. Some members here running 275 and 285 MT/Rs with minor plastic trimming, but as far as I know all of them has at least 2.5" suspension lift. It seems for me that just body lift will not going to help you, at the end you'll have to do some suspension lift.

 

[K6UK]

Thanks for the reply...

Yes, I intend on doing a suspension lift, and possibly a body lift as well. This, I am hoping, will minimize the amount of cutting I will have to do.

But I am still iffy on the body lift - I would rather not have to do one.

Thanks again!

-Mike

 

[K6UK]

Wheel Width - Answer

Well, after getting different answers from different Lexus dealers, I finally got to the bottom of the wheel width issue. They are indeed 7.5 inches wide just like the stock Lexus wheel. So that's good news for me.

Also I found a good price on them from Lexuspartsmall of 217 per rim - not too bad for new rims.

Just thought I would post this in case anyone else was interested.

-Mike

 

[Good Times]

talk to 04runner or expat (forget which nick he goes by on this forum) as he's experimented with stock wheels (17x7.5) and 275 MTR's. He'll be able to give you detailed account of how much rubbing he had with his lifted 4runner.

Good luck!

 

[Silverback]

2 1/2" Daystar lift and BFG KO's

Hi there,

Although I know that the tire and lift discussion has been beaten like a dead horse, I'm ready to buy and I want one last ring at the bell.

I have a 03 4runner with stock 17's

I will likely buy 2 1/2" Daystars

I agree with everyone here, the BFG KO's look great after seeing them in-store

So, what is the best tire size for someone that is primary road and some modest terrain?

I see a range of 265/70/17 and 275/60/17, but also some larger with rubbing

What are the benefits of each?

I don

 

[AlexJet]

Re: 2 1/2" Daystar lift and BFG KO's

Hi there,

Although I know that the tire and lift discussion has been beaten like a dead horse, I'm ready to buy and I want one last ring at the bell.

I have a 03 4runner with stock 17's

I will likely buy 2 1/2" Daystars

I agree with everyone here, the BFG KO's look great after seeing them in-store

So, what is the best tire size for someone that is primary road and some modest terrain?

I see a range of 265/70/17 and 275/60/17, but also some larger with rubbing

What are the benefits of each?

I don

 

[Silverback]

2 1/2" Daystar lift and BFG KO's

Hi there,

Although I know that the tire and lift discussion has been beaten like a dead horse, I'm ready to buy and I want one last ring at the bell.

I have a 03 4runner with stock 17's

I will likely buy 2 1/2" Daystars

I agree with everyone here, the BFG KO's look great after seeing them in-store

So, what is the best tire size for someone that is primary road and some modest terrain?

I see a range of 265/70/17 and 275/60/17, but also some larger with rubbing

What are the benefits of each?

I don

 

[dcampen]

Deaver springs in the rear,

Can you tell me more about these: length, spring rate and who sells them?

 

[Good Times]

Can you tell me more about these: length, spring rate and who sells them?

www.deaverspring.com

Ask for the Jared 4th gen 4runner specification. I don't have the details but I know Jared (yotatech) does. PM him directly as he was the first to contact Deaver and get the prototype done.

Good luck!

 

[Good Times]

oops forgot link:

http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=67362

 

[Martin]

I too am looking into the tire options that I have for my 04 X-REAS 4x4 V8. I'm thinking about a Cornfed lift, but I'm not sure what lift height will allow for what tire size on STOCK 17" rims with preferrably NO rubbing. I also heard that getting the same height Cornfed front and rear lift (symetric) is best for X-REAS. Anyone know anything about this? Last thing that I want is to see dash lights flashing when all is said and done. Has anyone done 285s on a 2" Cornfed?

 

[Good Times]

285 mud terrains will rub even with a 3" lift. if you want minimal to no lift check out 275's (may have some rubbing I think - check with 04runner as he has 275's on stock 17" SE wheels).

Good luck

 

[K6UK]

Here's what you're looking for:

Take a look here

285's w/Cornfed Lift

It looks like it is very doable with BFG AT/KO I know that other tires are bigger and won't work as well such as MT/Rs

I am still trying to decide on 275's or 285's

-Mike

 

[Martin]

Thanks for the link to the other posting by Josh. Two things that he never answered (yet) are what height front/back Cornfed he's got and if the control arm rubs or what rubbing occurs during 4 wheeling with the suspension torqued. Any thoughts? Are 275's the safe way to go? Will a 275 spare fit?

 

[AlexJet]

275 spare won't fit the stock location. Maximum is 265/70-17.
Cornfed is 3" Front + 2" Rear.

 

[K6UK]

Here's what I know thus far...

I've been doing a lot of research on the issue - so here's what I know so far:

1. First of all, no 275s wont fit as the spare, 265s are the max for a spare. But a lot of people are carrying a smaller tire as a spare, so I am not too worried about it.

2. BFG AT/KOs run smaller than Goodyear MT/Rs. In fact the MT/Rs in 275 are bigger in diameter than BFG ATs in 285s (according to other posts)

3. 285 MT/Rs will rub the upper a-arms if mounted on stock wheels, so wheel spacers or new wheels are needed. However 275s do fit with OEM wheels with about a finger width of room between the tire and the upper a-arm.

4. 275s have very minimal rub even when flexed on stock rims on a truck with a 3" lift. 285s will probably take some amount of trimming - especially with the MTRs and possibly BFG MTs.

I think that 275s are a pretty good comprimise, but I am tempted to go for the 285s. But the narrower 275s will be slightly better for power and gas milage. 265s are probably the safest of all choices, and they perform well - but I think I want a little bigger tire.

-Mike
K6UK

 

[Good Times]

Thanks for the link to the other posting by Josh. Two things that he never answered (yet) are what height front/back Cornfed he's got and if the control arm rubs or what rubbing occurs during 4 wheeling with the suspension torqued. Any thoughts? Are 275's the safe way to go? Will a 275 spare fit?

Like I said eariler on my other post talk to Mark (04runner) who runs 275's on his stock 17" wheels. I believe he has 275 spare underside too. He'll know exactly if they rub and how much. He's riding on 275 MTR's and is very happy with his selection so he's your best bet for first hand experience.

Good luck

 

[K6UK]

Spare Tire Fitment w/275s

Thanks Lance,

He posted on another forum - Here:

Nope it would not fit. Even with taking most of the air pressure out, with no actual weight it would not compress to fit.

By the way that thread is a good resource with pictures of his tires mounted.

-Mike
K6UK

 

[Martin]

Thanks for all the great info.

So can you do 265/70-17 (on stock SE rims) w/o ANY lift on a 4x4 and not have any rubbing? I heard 2WD folks get a bit of rubbing on sharp U's and backing into stalls, but what's the word on the 4WD?