When do you know when we are Running out of Gen 3eeeeeeeeees....

[sleepydad]

Does altitude play a big role? What is the air pressure affecting?

100% because there is not as much oxygen. the air is much less dense as you go up in elevation.

if you don't believe me run up the stairs at sea level and then run up the stairs on pikes peak. you will know exactly because you will be winded and your heart will be pounding.

somebody told me the old rule of "3-4% power loss for each 1000 feet of altitude". do the math @ 7000 ft your down some serious power. turbo and super chargers can make up for the power loss I believe.

I'm also pretty sure this is why turbo/super chargers were are popular on aircraft.

 

[APhelps]

it was in jest of course but... the older I get the more I look around and enjoy the trip.

having driven I70 from Denver to Vegas in both the AJ8 and the 5VZ I understand. The 5VZ is like... hmm wonder if I'm moving or not? the AJ8 just goes. once your up over loveland pass that stretch of I70 is some of the coolest road to drive. as long as it's not Sunday afternoon and your coming back into Denver.

I totally get what you mean. The drivers in Denver act like their vehicles aren't subjected to hitting black ice.

a 2uz swap is certainly on my mind, would make the vehicle just effortless to drive.

 

[gamefreakgc]

I doubt any of you have DD'd the terrible 3VZ-E. Also known as the 3.slow. I had a 5-speed and I still hated that engine, also due to the fact that it broke almost every month. The engine bay was a spider's web of vacuum hoses that loved falling off and I think Toyota had about 8 VSV's in that engine bay. With 3 vacuum hoses for each VSV. Do the math.

 

[JZiggy]

My 3RZ did have a hard time in the Rockies but that was with 4.10s. High altitude makes a difference.

The 3.0 has the power of a 4 banger and mileage of a V8. I had one for a while too.

 

[sleepydad]

I totally get what you mean. The drivers in Denver act like their vehicles aren't subjected to hitting black ice.

a 2uz swap is certainly on my mind, would make the vehicle just effortless to drive.

I'm also with you on that one. 2uz has a lot going for it. I have been watching for Sequoias locally to chop up. the problem is the low mile ones still get $5-6K.

at some point I will find one. just not going to jump on one until its the right deal. and for the love of everything holly don't tell my wife.

 

[qwertyisdead]

I'll be really disappointed if people are swapping 3.4s into a 3rd gen. Go V8 or go home.

Why not 2j? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[APhelps]

Why not 2j? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Would probably be more of a challenge to get it CARB legal. The nice about a 2UZ is besides a few minor challenges, the swap isn't terribly difficult.

I'm not sure about the fitment of a 2jz and coupled with the fact that a v8 would be better than an inline 6 for crawling up rocks and etc. I'd love to do swaps and frankly opening a fabrication / restoration shop would probably be a lot of fun.

Plus overall I think if you ended up finding a 2uz-fe with VVTI the power level would be more than adequate for the truck, I'm not trying to build a boost machine. I recall seeing a 4th gen v8 4R with over 800k miles on here, not sure if that is really achievable with a boosted engine.

 

[I_bRAD]

I love the S Series Saturns as beater cars. I worry the day I need another and I can’t find a decent one and am required to figure out what to replace it with. It gets me 40mpg in the winter and 44 or more in the summer.




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yaris? I've got an echo hatchback (canada) and it's an awesome commuter. 5.5L/100kms and its toyota.

 

[brillo_76]

If anyone thinks these have no power. You should have drove the 22R carbonated 4x4 of the early 80s. The trucks weighed 2 tons and neither the brakes nor the engine had enough juice. The supercharger and EFI did give them more beans in the mid 80s. However, you had to drive them like they were loaded semis and give yourself plenty of time to stop.

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[plcfcng]

If anyone thinks these have no power. You should have drove the 22R carbonated 4x4 of the early 80s. The trucks weighed 2 tons and neither the brakes nor the engine had enough juice. The supercharger and EFI did give them more beans in the mid 80s. However, you had to drive them like they were loaded semis and give yourself plenty of time to stop.

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A friend of mine had one of those that were stretched out with more cap space the engines were a pain to keep going :juggle:

 

[brillo_76]

A friend of mine had one of those that were stretched out with more cap space the engines were a pain to keep going :juggle:

I had several. They were super easy to work on and easy to maintain. Just didn't have much power. Especially if they were 4wd. The 2wd did fine as they were quite a bit lighter. I had both 2 and 4wd. Standard and extra cabs. Along with standard and long beds. All of mine were manuals.

I rarely had any issues with them except for 2 of them. One was my fault for using a non OEM timing chain tensioner.

The other one jump time by one tooth. Bent a few valves. So I replaced the bent valves, chain and sprockets while I was in there. Those early 80s had adjustable valve lash on them and were super easy to adjust with a wrench, slotted screw driver and feeler gauges.

Anyways slightly off topic so I will zip the lip.

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