When to use 4WD??

riverider said:
I just call them as I see them. If you and others need 4wd and all the other stuff. like wheel spacers BIG tall wide tires and high lifts. That's how you see it. Myself most of all that stuff is worthless overpriced junk.

Same as what I see in what people are now buying in their choices of firearms. and how they junk them up.

But it makes many part pushing jags rich selling all that after market truck and Auto junk, to fools with nothing better to do with their money.
:awais:

Hoping thats not to dramatically for you.;):

I think that the issue was the usefullness of 4WD not spacers big wide tires and high lifts. I think all those choices are fine but the issue here at least in my opinion was the application of 4WD on roads in Guatemala.

Ease back cowboy......I don't hear any one being critical of your choices, how bout letting others decide how they spend their money...........? Might be more interesting.
 
Knew I had one of these laying around......now people who visit or live in Central America are "drug traffickers".
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How about a satanic banana to lighten the mood.......
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Anyway Guatemala Dude, Enjoy yourself down there and enjoy the 4wd Toyota.....My wife is about to "make me" move to Costa Rica soon. Guess we will have to become "drug lords" :D
 
.......so River what do you recommend for bear stopping power? I have been deciding between the 45-70 Marlin and the 30-06.

Guatemala Dude...........better send pics and the Satanic Banana............Just .....perfect =)
 
alaskaman said:
.......so River what do you recommend for bear stopping power? I have been deciding between the 45-70 Marlin and the 30-06.

Guatemala Dude...........better send pics and the Satanic Banana............Just .....perfect =)

My choice is a Dillon 134M mounted on in the back of my 4Runner.
 
Conspearasea said:
Knew I had one of these laying around......now people who visit or live in Central America are "drug traffickers".
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How about a satanic banana to lighten the mood.......
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Anyway Guatemala Dude, Enjoy yourself down there and enjoy the 4wd Toyota.....My wife is about to "make me" move to Costa Rica soon. Guess we will have to become "drug lords" :D

All I can say is good luck. Oh say hello to the M13 Gang for me.;):
 
Well, I lived in Guatemala for 12 years. Unfortunately I did not have 4WD (I had a Ram Quadcab) so I couldn't have that much fun on the trails so I took up mountain biking.

For everyday driving you don't need 4WD down there, but if you decide to travel to some of the small towns in Peten or Coban it is very nice to have as those roads get bad, especially during the wet season. Even farm roads get sticky sometimes. Even in the City around Periferico and San Juan where there is a lot of flooding it comes in handy. A friend had his Nissan Pulsar float in 2 1/2 feet of water. We just pushed it out of the way and spent a week tearing the inside out to dry. AH, good times.
 
Juan_RKFD said:
Well, I lived in Guatemala for 12 years. Unfortunately I did not have 4WD (I had a Ram Quadcab) so I couldn't have that much fun on the trails so I took up mountain biking.

For everyday driving you don't need 4WD down there, but if you decide to travel to some of the small towns in Peten or Coban it is very nice to have as those roads get bad, especially during the wet season. Even farm roads get sticky sometimes. Even in the City around Periferico and San Juan where there is a lot of flooding it comes in handy. A friend had his Nissan Pulsar float in 2 1/2 feet of water. We just pushed it out of the way and spent a week tearing the inside out to dry. AH, good times.

Jaun, Thank-you for getting this thread headed the correct direction again. This is about a newbie to 4wd and using the new/used T4R in Guatemala.

I'm not sure that this thread is out of hand yet; let's keep it that way. Thanks guys.
:cheers:
 
CJ3Flyr said:
Jaun, Thank-you for getting this thread headed the correct direction again. This is about a newbie to 4wd and using the new/used T4R in Guatemala.

I'm not sure that this thread is out of hand yet; let's keep it that way. Thanks guys.
:cheers:

Those that have driven in southern Mexico and Guatemala. Are the roads bad in July? I've ridden a bus through there, but they seemed ok, at least from a rider's perspective...what are some challenges through southern Mexico and Guatemala toward the capital?

Thanks!
 
Since it bears on the OPs question, sort of, here's my $0.05 (used to be $0.02, but with inflation... :P ).

I use my 4WD frequently, but I also live in Oregon where it rains 9 months out of the year. I've found it helpful on snow, ice, in the rain, mud, dirt, gravel...anything that's not bare, dry pavement. Maybe it's in my head, but I honestly do feel a difference when it's engaged on those aforementioned surfaces.
 
riverider said:
Unless someone is really going off road into the rough trails. 4wd is of very little use. Most times even in the snow 2wd still gets one around. Many just buy into the hype that if you don't get the 4wd your not a real off truck owner.:bash:

Fact is your paying for something that most will really never use.

Fact your hauling a lot of extra weight around everywhere you go.

Fact and if something fails in the 4wd system you are in for a lot of repair costs.:mad:

Fact Driving on ice with 4wd has no advantage over 2wd.

:awais:

Another person with buyers remorse. I see you are stuck with a 2wd 4Runner. Lol. Before mine even had 1,000 miles on it the thing was in 4LO pulling a 15 foot pine out of the ground while driving up hill of wet grass. Gets me through the snowstorms and passing all the fake 2wd SUVs buried in front of their homes. :D:D:D:D
 
ExJeeper said:
Another person with buyers remorse. I see you are stuck with a 2wd 4Runner. Lol. Before mine even had 1,000 miles on it the thing was in 4LO pulling a 15 foot pine out of the ground while driving up hill of wet grass. Gets me through the snowstorms and passing all the fake 2wd SUVs buried in front of their homes. :D:D:D:D

I can't imagine anyone being so naive as to say those things about 4WD not being useful. unfathomable. We were rolling today in the Kenai in a friends new Jeep Grand Cherokee taking pics in remote areas. we ran into a real bad patch went into 4WD and were rolling quickly again.... it was however,......still a Jeep:happens:
 
alaskaman said:
I can't imagine anyone being so naive as to say those things about 4WD not being useful. unfathomable. We were rolling today in the Kenai in a friends new Jeep Grand Cherokee taking pics in remote areas. we ran into a real bad patch went into 4WD and were rolling quickly again.... it was however,......still a Jeep:happens:

he is just bitter he is stuck in a 2wd SUV. A good number of his posts are obsession over 4wd or lifted Runners. Seems like an inferiority complex. ;) I lived in North Dakota for5 years and Keflavik Iceland for a year. Without 4wd, you dont get around. Period. I could not imagine having a 2wd. Every year there are RWD cars and 2wd SUVs stuck at the bottom of my subdivision, they cant even make it up the hill in snow and ice. My Runner only has 6,000 miles and I use 4wd OFTEN, even in the summer. Its nice to know with 4wd you can point the Runner anywhere and not have to worry about getting stuck. :D :D
 
Hence why even though I am new to all of this, I still drive in 2wd as often as possible when offroading, just to see what the truck is capable of. I've been through bumper deep mud with no issue, and I put it into 4wd for shits and giggles.
 
guatemala_dude said:
Those that have driven in southern Mexico and Guatemala. Are the roads bad in July? I've ridden a bus through there, but they seemed ok, at least from a rider's perspective...what are some challenges through southern Mexico and Guatemala toward the capital?

Thanks!


If you are driving toward the capital, the roads are fine. The biggest danger is oncoming traffic. they are all paved roads so you'll be OK. In Mexico you will go on a road that is called La Ventosa. That road has some very strong crosswinds. Be careful if you are top heavy. Also, only drive during sunlight. Unfortunately, there are a lot of thieves that like to come out at night. Enjoy your trip.
 
Juan_RKFD said:
If you are driving toward the capital, the roads are fine. The biggest danger is oncoming traffic. they are all paved roads so you'll be OK. In Mexico you will go on a road that is called La Ventosa. That road has some very strong crosswinds. Be careful if you are top heavy. Also, only drive during sunlight. Unfortunately, there are a lot of thieves that like to come out at night. Enjoy your trip.

Where is La Ventosa, exactly? Is that the road after Tuxtla Guiterrez toward the Guatemalan border when you have to wind through all those mountains? I was surprised at how good that road was, but I imagine it could be windy...the van driver didn't discuss that with me :)
 
It's before Tuxtla. Before you head up the mountains. It's a straight a way that goes for about 30-35 miles. Which border town are you crossing to head down there? Just found out today that there is a group from church heading to Guate in July as well. What will you be doing down there?
 
Juan_RKFD said:
It's before Tuxtla. Before you head up the mountains. It's a straight a way that goes for about 30-35 miles. Which border town are you crossing to head down there? Just found out today that there is a group from church heading to Guate in July as well. What will you be doing down there?

I'll be teaching 12th grade English Lit at an American school in the capital. I'm planning on leaving (driving) around July 15. My wife arrives in plane on the 25th...I'm keeping my eyes open for someone to make the trip with...
 

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