Where do you get your gas?

01silverSR5

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Hey All,

I know there have been many threads regarding the kind of gas you put in your runner but where do you all fill up? Does it matter where you fill up? I fill up at Chevron every other tank simply because I feel that they have better gasoline. Other times I fill up at the gasoline station at the grocery store (Albertsons). Gas is more expensive at places like Chevron but it seems as if they have better gas.

What are your experiences/suggestions on this topic?
 
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Even with my Eclipse I've used the same Conoco station by my house for 99% of my fillups over the last 7 years but occassionally I'll try some other top brand but so far no real differences.
 
Gasoline Brands


I usually fill up at Wawa (a large convenience store chain), but sometimes go to a BP/Amoco station because they have a great "touchless" car wash for $5 if you purchase gasoline there.

Both stations are very close to my house, so that is probably the reason I patronize both of them. Their prices are fairly close, although Wawa is generally the cheapest in town - by 2 or 3 cents a gallon.

I have always been told that it is a good idea to buy gasoline from places where they sell a lot of it (such as Wawa), since it is less likely to contain sediment or other impurities.

I have yet to notice any type of difference in performance from different brands -- in either my 4Runner or my Nissan Sentra GXE.



P.S. As for the 'top tier' gasolines, we do not have any of those stations in my area - except for one Shell station three miles from here. As for Chevron, I know we used to have them years ago - but I think they went the way of Gulf and Agip.
 
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I use Hess Gas w/ my hess card (saves me 5%)

Gas has been creeping up lately. Eeeks. I may move over to Shell if they still offer a discount for gas using their credit card.
 
01silverSR5 said:
Hey All,

I know there have been many threads regarding the kind of gas you put in your runner but where do you all fill up? Does it matter where you fill up? I fill up at Chevron every other tank simply because I feel that they have better gasoline. Other times I fill up at the gasoline station at the grocery store (Albertsons). Gas is more expensive at places like Chevron but it seems as if they have better gas.

What are your experiences/suggestions on this topic?

Here where I live in Eastern Pennsylvania it does not make much difference where I fill up. The gasoline wholesaler in this area has a tank farm (Sunoco on the sign). On any given day one can watch tankers pull out of this tank farm that supply most of the local gasoline retailers (Exxon/Mobil/Sunoco and the gas-n-go places like Wawa, Turkey Hill, etc) This particular tank farm does not have nearly enough tanks to support having individual tanks for all the major brands and gas-n-gos.

As a result, IMHO, buying a particular brand of gas in my area is almost meaningless since almost all gas comes from the same place (ie wholesaler).
 
Hitman said:
Read this, take it for what it's worth, and choose your gas station:

http://www.toptiergas.com/
I use Top Tier whenever possible. Out here, QuicTrip is about the cheapest, but is also on this list which is recommended by Toyota.

Another cheaper Top Tier gas is often Conoco. Chevron is usually the most expensive, but a new one they put in nearby is trying to compete - so I may pay a few cents more for the convenience.

(In any case, it doesn't seem to make much difference from a sulfer smell standpoint!)
 
mostly with Shell, BP and sometimes Exxon/ Mobile if neither is close by.

maybe it's me, but i've noticed reduced mileage when i use Shell... anyone else?
 

A fellow with whom I work used to be employed by an oil services & equipment company and he told me some interesting things about the business.

He worked on a pipeline at a pumping station and said that they would run XXX hundred thousand gallons of a certain brand (Exxon, Amoco, Chevron, etc.) through the pipeline at a time. It was a pipleline that served most of the Eastern Seabord of the USA and he explained how the stuff was pushed through the system.

When they changed over to another brand, there were several thousand gallons that might be a mixture of two brands as one was phased in and the other was phased out. That 'off-brand' stuff was then sold to the Zippy Mart, East Coast, Costco, BJs, 7-11, Kroger, discount or other non-branded fuel retailers. It might be ten thousand gallons of Mobil and Amoco mixed, but would still be decent stuff. Since the gasoline and the additive mix might not be 100% of one brand or the other, they could not sell it as "Exxon" or "Chevron" or whatever. {They wanted to keep the juice flowing, so they did not have a dry pipeline.}

Even so, all of the fuel still had to meet all EPA standards and different areas only a few miles apart might have different blend requirements. Blends even differ from summer to winter as well. In our area, Richmond and the surrounding counties require reformulated gasolines.....but Petersburg (20 miles south) does not; so prices are often 3 to 5 cents lower there.

Watch some of the oil tanker trucks that you see on the road. Very few even have a brand name on the side and you'll often see them make multiple stops in an area (as that is the most efficient way to do it). A single truck might drop 1000 gallons at an Exxon station and then drive down the street to a 7-11 and unload some more -- and may make a third delivery at a Kroger store where they sell gasoline. It all comes from the same tank farm.

There's probably a lot more to that business than any of us realize......but I don't think I have ever gotten a bad batch of gasoline but once or twice in 25 years of driving. I did get some bad diesel fuel for my work truck once, but that was probably because it had somehow gotten some water in it.

No matter what brand or grade of unleaded you use, consider pouring a bottle of fuel injector cleaner into your gas tank after every oil change. Also, avoid letting your tank get below 1/8 of the way full. That way, you'll have less concentration of sediment in the bottom of your fuel tank and a smaller chance of it ending up being sucked into your fuel line (and into your engine).

Okay, that's my two cents for the night.

 
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Jeff Kleb said:

A fellow with whom I work used to be employed by an oil services & equipment company and he told me some interesting things about the business.

He worked on a pipeline at a pumping station and said that they would run XXX hundred thousand gallons of a certain brand (Exxon, Amoco, Chevron, etc.) through the pipeline at a time. It was a pipleline that served most of the Eastern Seabord of the USA and he explained how the stuff was pushed through the system.

When they changed over to another brand, there were several thousand gallons that might be a mixture of two brands as one was phased in and the other was phased out. That 'off-brand' stuff was then sold to the Zippy Mart, East Coast, Costco, BJs, 7-11, Kroger, discount or other non-branded fuel retailers. It might be ten thousand gallons of Mobil and Amoco mixed, but would still be decent stuff. Since the gasoline and the additive mix might not be 100% of one brand or the other, they could not sell it as "Exxon" or "Chevron" or whatever. {They wanted to keep the juice flowing, so they did not have a dry pipeline.}

Even so, all of the fuel still had to meet all EPA standards and different areas only a few miles apart might have different blend requirements. Blends even differ from summer to winter as well. In our area, Richmond and the surrounding counties require reformulated gasolines.....but Petersburg (20 miles south) does not; so prices are often 3 to 5 cents lower there.

Watch some of the oil tanker trucks that you see on the road. Very few even have a brand name on the side and you'll often see them make multiple stops in an area (as that is the most efficient way to do it). A single truck might drop 1000 gallons at an Exxon station and then drive down the street to a 7-11 and unload some more -- and may make a third delivery at a Kroger store where they sell gasoline. It all comes from the same tank farm.

There's probably a lot more to that business than any of us realize......but I don't think I have ever gotten a bad batch of gasoline but once or twice in 25 years of driving. I did get some bad diesel fuel for my work truck once, but that was probably because it had somehow gotten some water in it.

No matter what brand or grade of unleaded you use, consider pouring a bottle of fuel injector cleaner into your gas tank after every oil change. Also, avoid letting your tank get below 1/8 of the way full. That way, you'll have less concentration of sediment in the bottom of your fuel tank and a smaller chance of it ending up being sucked into your fuel line (and into your engine).

Okay, that's my two cents for the night.


Thanks for the feedback.
 
Jeff,
That is what I heard. Next time if I see a non-chevron tanker drives into a chevron station, I will take a picture of it.

I do have a question here,
while the pipeline may serve various brands of gas. Does one single pipeline carries different octane grade gas, say 87, then 93?
That would be very interesting. Do you know the answer?
 
Yes, much of the gas is mixed, etc. . .

If you read the links above, you will see that all gas has to meet the minimum EPA guideline. But that guideline does not concern itself much with the quality of the detergent additives. A good majority of the gas being sold in the US has gradually dropped in quality, over the past decade. Many have now cut quality, and have figured out how to just skate above the EPA standard. But this does nothing for the more sophisticated injectors being used.

When injectors were becoming popular, there were a lot of gas related problems. So fuel providers raised the detergent, so as not to come under public fire.

But GM, BMW, Honda & Toyota began to see a slipping of these standards again. The EPA can't do anything about it, because this gas is still meeting their minimum standards. The 4 auot makers thought it would bring more clout to the situation by joining together.

It will likely be the direction that other auto makers & oil producers will be inclined to go (although for some, it undermines their premium grade, so they are leary). If you read the 2 links above, you will get a better understanding of this subject.

Low detergent gas certainly won't cause issues right away, and certainly if you only use it sporadically, but in the long run it may.
 
HESS
the hess refinery is here on st. croix, so when i am home i have no choice but to buy hess (no brand name stations, and they all het thier oil from hess) but when i am in fl i only fill up at hess. most everone i know works at the refinery, i know hess vp, and i prolly will too when i graduate, so i like to support them rather than some oil company in texas or something. it is also the biggest and most state of the art refinery in the western hemisphere, so i would imagine if it is such state of the art then the oil is pretty decent.
also to answer the question about anything besides hess trucks delivering to a station, i have only seen hess trucks delivering when in florida (in st. croix they use unmarked trucks) i would imagine only hess trucks deliver because the oil is shipped to the states in tankers, not pipelines, so i would think the oil would be pumped off the tanker into hess trucks alone, but i dont really know. if it was super important i guess i could ask the hess vp on xmas eve and let you know.
 
Well, whatever brand you use, if it ain't a "Top Tier" brand, well . . . it's just plain ol' unrecomended non-Top Tier gas.

My 4Runner goes at least 5 MPH faster with it!
 
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TeryT said:
Well, whatever brand you use, if it ain't a "Top Tier" brand, well . . . it's just plain ol' unrecomended non-Top Tier gas.

My 4Runner goes at least 5 MPH faster with it!

Top Tier it is...
 
The only gas that has ever touched my tank is Shell (minus whatever came from the dealer). Gas from the same company will vary from region to region, but where I live this seems to be the best for the sulfur smell (Chevron being one of the worst) and is Top Tier gas.

The best part is that it is the closest gas station, right on the corner before the nearest freeway onramp.
 
Octane

abin said:
Jeff,
That is what I heard. Next time if I see a non-chevron tanker drives into a chevron station, I will take a picture of it.

I do have a question here,
while the pipeline may serve various brands of gas. Does one single pipeline carries different octane grade gas, say 87, then 93?
That would be very interesting. Do you know the answer?


To be perfectly honest with you, I do not have a clue. Next time I see this friend at work (we're on different shifts, but I run into him from time to time) I will ask him about that issue.

I know that East Coast (a local chain of gas stations and convenience stores) only has two blends in their tanks - regular and premium. Their 'mid-grade' is merely a mixture of the two. Interesting idea, as it requires fewer tanks and they only need to carry two grades rather than three.


 
TeryT said:
Well, whatever brand you use, if it ain't a "Top Tier" brand, well . . . it's just plain ol' unrecomended non-Top Tier gas.

My 4Runner goes at least 5 MPH faster with it!

But isn't one of the points of this discussion that depending on where you live and what gas wholesaler your station gets it's gas from the "brand" of gas is meaningless?? In this senario you may not be getting the "Top Tier" brand you think you are pumping into your tank but rather whatever brand the wholesaler got out of the pipeline that day or week.
 
charlier180 said:
But isn't one of the points of this discussion that depending on where you live and what gas wholesaler your station gets it's gas from the "brand" of gas is meaningless?? In this senario you may not be getting the "Top Tier" brand you think you are pumping into your tank but rather whatever brand the wholesaler got out of the pipeline that day or week.
Theoretically yes, but I would certainly think one stands a much better chance of getting Top Tier by going to a Top Tier station.

As said, it's not that other gas is all that bad (at least not apparently so in the short term). I do use it when I have to - which is fairly often. But when I can, I figure the Top Tier stuff is the way to go, for obvious reasons.
 

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