Which Stainless Steel Line for TBU?

[gamefreakgc]

I did the TBU years ago, works great. I need to beef up my brake response and never did put in stainless steel lines so that's the next logical step.

I have a stock height 98, no extension over stock needed.
I have ABS but no VSC/TRAC.
I have the larger 13WL stamped calipers.

Which lines should I be looking to buy? I want to replace both the front AND the rear lines. Should I be buying a set that fits a 4Runner or a Tundra? That's the part I'm not sure of. Specific brands, links, experiences appreciated.

 

[HiluxSurf SSR-G]

I used the Goodridge lines from Wheeler's. Installed them in 2005 and have been happy with them. Last year, I noticed that the brake fluid darkened 5 months after replacing the MC pistons, so maybe there's a leak somewhere, allowing moisture to get in. Have been replacing the brake fluid in the reservoir every three months now when it darkens.
I have bought a pair of StopTech lines from SummitRacing and the single rear line from Wheeler's to replace the 3 lines.

 

[HiLife]

I went with OEM 2000 4runner, front and the single rear line for mines 17 months ago. They fit my 231's just fine.

 

[3bears]

if your asking for a specific length, the stock length works fine for up to a 2 inch lift, after that, the fronts are still fine, but is recomended to go to a longer hose in back. The fittings are the same, stock caliper to TBU.
I think I used stop tech ( been a while so not sure)

 

[gamefreakgc]

I used the Goodridge lines from Wheeler's. Installed them in 2005 and have been happy with them. Last year, I noticed that the brake fluid darkened 5 months after replacing the MC pistons, so maybe there's a leak somewhere, allowing moisture to get in. Have been replacing the brake fluid in the reservoir every three months now when it darkens.
I have bought a pair of StopTech lines from SummitRacing and the single rear line from Wheeler's to replace the 3 lines.

Did you buy the kind for 4Runners or Tundras?

The general consensus I'm hearing is that it doesn't really matter and they pretty much all will fit. Sound about right?

 

[SirClutch]

I used stop tech when I did my tundra upgrade.
I believe i ordered from amazon.

 

[HiluxSurf SSR-G]

The Goodridge lines I use are all 4Runner ones. Iirc, guys over at YT who also used them said that the fronts were good for lifted trucks and that the rear line was also extended length and could accommodate the LC coil springs/shocks.

These lines connect to the steel tubes so it doesn't matter which ones you use. The steel tubes that connect to the calipers are also the same.

Did you buy the kind for 4Runners or Tundras?

The general consensus I'm hearing is that it doesn't really matter and they pretty much all will fit. Sound about right?

 

[Bad Luck]

Did you buy the kind for 4Runners or Tundras?

The general consensus I'm hearing is that it doesn't really matter and they pretty much all will fit. Sound about right?

I used the 4Runner ones from Wheeler's when I upgraded to 13WL castings. Alternatively you could use the front hoses for a tacoma, but it replaces the hard line at the caliper with a braided hose. (Stock 4Runner is hard line at body to brake hose to hard line at caliper.)

 

[Poorboy64]

I am also researching and gathering parts for the TBU, on a previous build, a Pontiac GTO I used Goodridge SS lines and they were good quality and have had no problems at all, They do seem to be a little more pricy but have proven themselves.
On this journey I have found a 3 hose kit (2 front & 1 rear) for the 3rd gen. Goodrich hose #21183, also thinking replacing the hard line from caliper to SS hose Oem L-43316-35250 & R 47314-35330, mine got a little bent doing a suspension refresh.
Is there a big difference between the 13WL (231mm) & 13we (199mm) caliper as far as performance goes? I have a 99 limited with the 5 spoke so from what I have read the larger caliper should fit?
Thanks,
Bill

 

[Bad Luck]

Is there a big difference between the 13WL (231mm) & 13we (199mm) caliper as far as performance goes?
Thanks,
Bill

231 and 199 both have the same amount of friction material on the brake pad (the brake pad backing plate is different sizes between the two), use the same rotors, and have the same brake piston size. 199 caliper is smaller than 231 so it will clear more wheel options.

 

[gamefreakgc]

I used the 4Runner ones from Wheeler's when I upgraded to 13WL castings. Alternatively you could use the front hoses for a tacoma, but it replaces the hard line at the caliper with a braided hose. (Stock 4Runner is hard line at body to brake hose to hard line at caliper.)

I'll order from Wheeler's then. Their parent company, Trail Gear, just put in an order for apparel from the non-profit I work with so I'd like to return the favor and help them out as well.

 

[Poorboy64]

Does Wheelers have a brake line kit specific for 3rd gens? I’ve looked on their site
Is it the same line as the Taco?

 

[Bad Luck]

Does Wheelers have a brake line kit specific for 3rd gens? I’ve looked on their site
Is it the same line as the Taco?

Front brake lines: PERFORMANCE FRONT BRAKE LINE SET FOR 05+ TACOMA, 96+ 4RUNNER, 07+ FJ CRUISER, 99-06 TUNDRA (TF BLINE-06, RED OR BLACK)
1996-2000 rear brake line: REAR BRAKE LINE - SINGLE, FOR STOCK HEIGHT TO 3.5" LIFT (19") FOR 1995-2004 TACOMA, 1996-2002 4RUNNER (TF BLINE-04, RED OR BLACK)
2001-2002 rear brake lines: REAR BRAKE LINE SET FOR 2001-2002 4RUNNER WITH VSC (TF BLINE-12, RED OR BLACK)

 

[Poorboy64]

Thank You!

 

[3bears]

231 and 199 both have the same amount of friction material on the brake pad (the brake pad backing plate is different sizes between the two), use the same rotors, and have the same brake piston size. 199 caliper is smaller than 231 so it will clear more wheel options.

then why use the 231 if the brake pad friction area is the same ?

 

[HiluxSurf SSR-G]

i'm pretty sure that the pistons of the 231mm are bigger than those of the 199mm. There was a post somewhere, either here or in YT, that had a comparison of the piston size. There were some complaints of having a soft or spongy brake pedal even after several bleeds and they decided to swap with a 199mm caliper and they said that the brake pedal feel improved

 

[Bad Luck]

then why use the 231 if the brake pad friction area is the same ?

Good marketing strategies? No idea to be honest. Here's the thread where you can see side by side of factory brake pads between the two: TBU 231mm vs. 199mm Pad Size

i'm pretty sure that the pistons of the 231mm are bigger than those of the 199mm. There was a post somewhere, either here or in YT, that had a comparison of the piston size. There were some complaints of having a soft or spongy brake pedal even after several bleeds and they decided to swap with a 199mm caliper and they said that the brake pedal feel improved

Both calipers use the same rebuild kit. This guy measured both pistons when he was comparing the two calipers in hand: https://www.toyota-4runner.org/3379444-post24.html