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[octanejunkie]

I've tried the Facebook groups. I still peek into the supercharger group to see the latest happenings arethere, but otherwise it's like pouring chlorine in my eyes......

I'm just here to say that i loathe bookface..... I feel like the my iq drops a minimum of 100 and my credit score free falls from the 800s to 400.........

Sweet mother of mercy I hate Facebook. It is such a low information and mostly brain dead environment.

I truly miss the glory days of all the forums. What a marvelous time it was. If you were an enthusiast of anything, you could live amongst your people with joy. Most of the greatest people I have ever met in my life have all been through forums.

Now that Zuckerberg with the bookface and Bezos with AWS have taken over the world shits all brain dead....

Without getting into a rant, I agree.

The amount of learned, and promoted, self-helplessness on social media is impressive. This place must seem like a treasure trove to those actually seeking knowledge vs interaction/reaction.

The hollow leg for attention that apparently can't be filled by social media begs for amputation.

 

[mtbtim]

I've tried the Facebook groups. I still peek into the supercharger group to see the latest happenings arethere, but otherwise it's like pouring chlorine in my eyes......

I'm just here to say that i loathe bookface..... I feel like the my iq drops a minimum of 100 and my credit score free falls from the 800s to 400.........

Sweet mother of mercy I hate Facebook. It is such a low information and mostly brain dead environment.

I truly miss the glory days of all the forums. What a marvelous time it was. If you were an enthusiast of anything, you could live amongst your people with joy. Most of the greatest people I have ever met in my life have all been through forums.

Now that Zuckerberg with the bookface and Bezos with AWS have taken over the world shits all brain dead....

There's good contributors on Facebook groups. It's just that the ratio of knowledgeable and helpful people to the idiots that are there just to talk shit isn't great.

We can't blame anyone but ourselves for letting these forums die. I'm on Facebook and YouTube, but I still contribute here. There were lots more regular contributors that have dropped by the wayside. This forum is a shadow of its former self. People move on I guess. It was way more interesting when there were more regular contributors in the mix. When I use to post new videos on T4R, there was always some discussion about it. I recently posted a video of a R150F manual transmission rebuild and it didn't get one f*cking comment. That is pathetic! I share some incredible tech, and it gets crickets. That wouldn't have happened 3-4 years ago. There would have been a ton of dialogue about it. It's not everyday someone can deliver that level of knowledge to the Toyota DIY Automotive Mechanic Community. You wouldn't even have to have a manual transmission to be interested in the subject matter. Just being able to see the inner workings of the transmission is pretty damn cool, in my opinion.

 

[JZiggy]

There's good contributors on Facebook groups. It's just that the ratio of knowledgeable and helpful people to the idiots that are there just to talk shit isn't great.

We can't blame anyone but ourselves for letting these forums die. I'm on Facebook and YouTube, but I still contribute here. There were lots more regular contributors that have dropped by the wayside. This forum is a shadow of its former self. People move on I guess. It was way more interesting when there were more regular contributors in the mix. When I use to post new videos on T4R, there was always some discussion about it. I recently posted a video of a R150F manual transmission rebuild and it didn't get one f*cking comment. That is pathetic! I share some incredible tech, and it gets crickets. That wouldn't have happened 3-4 years ago. There would have been a ton of dialogue about it. It's not everyday someone can deliver that level of knowledge to the Toyota DIY Automotive Mechanic Community. You wouldn't even have to have a manual transmission to be interested in the subject matter. Just being able to see the inner workings of the transmission is pretty damn cool, in my opinion.

Do you think the overall number of 3rd gen users has fallen significantly? I mean, that might be part of what is going on. Usually a vehicle that's about 15 years old with a large supply of junkyard parts is a more realistic project truck, now the 3rd gens are basically classics.

I pay no attention to the 4th or 5th gen forums. Have those died down a lot too?

 

[brillo_76]

The 3rd gens are dying out in the rust belt. A large portion of them are gone to be recycled. When 50% of the United States and all of Canada is in the rust belt. You going to loose members because they bought newer rigs. They are 20 years old now. All vehicles rust here 10 to 15 years mostly gone. By 20 years gone. I think there are 1 or 2 besides my collection in this county.

It's a different then the non rust area. None of the older Toyotas are here unless someone saved them. 80s, 90s and early 2000 now gone.

For this reason, most rust belt folks just keep things till they start rusting up and junk them. As it's a never ending fight against the environment and most don't fight it.. I didn't for years.


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[octanejunkie]

There's good contributors on Facebook groups. It's just that the ratio of knowledgeable and helpful people to the idiots that are there just to talk shit isn't great.



We can't blame anyone but ourselves for letting these forums die. I'm on Facebook and YouTube, but I still contribute here. There were lots more regular contributors that have dropped by the wayside. This forum is a shadow of its former self. People move on I guess. It was way more interesting when there were more regular contributors in the mix. When I use to post new videos on T4R, there was always some discussion about it. I recently posted a video of a R150F manual transmission rebuild and it didn't get one f*cking comment. That is pathetic! I share some incredible tech, and it gets crickets. That wouldn't have happened 3-4 years ago. There would have been a ton of dialogue about it. It's not everyday someone can deliver that level of knowledge to the Toyota DIY Automotive Mechanic Community. You wouldn't even have to have a manual transmission to be interested in the subject matter. Just being able to see the inner workings of the transmission is pretty damn cool, in my opinion.

I'm still watching that video, give me a min to comment lol

Thanks for the continued efforts!

Do you think the overall number of 3rd gen users has fallen significantly? I mean, that might be part of what is going on. Usually a vehicle that's about 15 years old with a large supply of junkyard parts is a more realistic project truck, now the 3rd gens are basically classics.



I pay no attention to the 4th or 5th gen forums. Have those died down a lot too?

The people that seem to move into third ends are split into two distinct camps, too cheap to afford anything else and run them into the ground then complain about ball joints failing with zero maintenance, or hardcore enthusiasts including people who plan to wheel the trucks and build them to that spec. For the most part that's what I see in social media.

There is a very small contingent of owners that look to keep them showroom accurate.

I think because of the availability, cost of parts, and ease of access to information, like Tim and Sean's videos, there is continued interest in these vehicles. You cannot say the same for very many other vehicles...

 

[mtbtim]

Do you think the overall number of 3rd gen users has fallen significantly? I mean, that might be part of what is going on. Usually a vehicle that's about 15 years old with a large supply of junkyard parts is a more realistic project truck, now the 3rd gens are basically classics.

I pay no attention to the 4th or 5th gen forums. Have those died down a lot too?

I think it has to have something to do with it, but it doesn't feel that way on the West Coast where you still see tons of 3rd Gens on the roadways and trails. I just think a large percentage of them are probably driven by people who don't turn wrenches on them.

I think forums like IH8Mud and Yotatech were dying off way before T4R was and it might have something to do with the fact their biggest following was in the older Toyotas, like the FJ40 and FJ60 Land Cruisers and the 1st Gen 4runners. As more of them went to the junk yards, the traffic on the forums dwindled. So, you're probably right Jordan.

I've been on the 5th Gen forum a little since I've posted some videos there and it was nothing like our 3rd Gen forum. There was way less going on and that was years ago.

 

[mtbtim]

I'm still watching that video, give me a min to comment lol

Thanks for the continued efforts!





The people that seem to move into third ends are split into two distinct camps, too cheap to afford anything else and run them into the ground then complain about ball joints failing with zero maintenance, or hardcore enthusiasts including people who plan to wheel the trucks and build them to that spec. For the most part that's what I see in social media.

There is a very small contingent of owners that look to keep them showroom accurate.

I think because of the availability, cost of parts, and ease of access to information, like Tim and Sean's videos, there is continued interest in these vehicles. You cannot say the same for very many other vehicles...

Well, you better hurry up and finish Part 1. Part 2 will be coming out soon with even better detail and explanation of how all the parts go back together. There's no doubt in my mind that someone will be able to do their own rebuild after watching both videos. Partnering with Yota1 Performance has been far and above the best business relationship we have made since we started making videos almost 8 years ago. Nick is an awesome guy and I now consider him a friend rather than just a business associate. I actually stayed at his house when we were filming the R150F project. He's a wealth of knowledge and he regularly answers my phone calls even when he's busy. He's been a reliable "Phone a Friend" when I get stuck on a job I'm working on.

It's always cool to hear when people have told Sean and I that the reason they bought a 3rd Gen was partially due to the fact they knew we had tons of videos showing how to work on them. That's pretty awesome to know.

It sucks that Toyota is starting to discontinue parts for them. I can't believe they stopped making the rear wheel bearings. There's tons of 3rd Gen 4runners and 1st Gen Tacomas still on the roads, so I don't understand why they would discontinue needed parts like wheel bearings. There's no doubt still a market for them.

 

[3bears]

I think it has to have something to do with it, but it doesn't feel that way on the West Coast where you still see tons of 3rd Gens on the roadways and trails. I just think a large percentage of them are probably driven by people who don't turn wrenches on them.

I think forums like IH8Mud and Yotatech were dying off way before T4R was and it might have something to do with the fact their biggest following was in the older Toyotas, like the FJ40 and FJ60 Land Cruisers and the 1st Gen 4runners. As more of them went to the junk yards, the traffic on the forums dwindled. So, you're probably right Jordan.

I've been on the 5th Gen forum a little since I've posted some videos there and it was nothing like our 3rd Gen forum. There was way less going on and that was years ago.

im sorry I have not watched your last video. and I have not watched all of them...but the ones I have watched and your advice on this forum has been golden to me.

 

[Romeo1]

Well, you better hurry up and finish Part 1. Part 2 will be coming out soon with even better detail and explanation of how all the parts go back together. There's no doubt in my mind that someone will be able to do their own rebuild after watching both videos. Partnering with Yota1 Performance has been far and above the best business relationship we have made since we started making videos almost 8 years ago. Nick is an awesome guy and I now consider him a friend rather than just a business associate. I actually stayed at his house when we were filming the R150F project. He's a wealth of knowledge and he regularly answers my phone calls even when he's busy. He's been a reliable "Phone a Friend" when I get stuck on a job I'm working on.

It's always cool to hear when people have told Sean and I that the reason they bought a 3rd Gen was partially due to the fact they knew we had tons of videos showing how to work on them. That's pretty awesome to know.

It sucks that Toyota is starting to discontinue parts for them. I can't believe they stopped making the rear wheel bearings. There's tons of 3rd Gen 4runners and 1st Gen Tacomas still on the roads, so I don't understand why they would discontinue needed parts like wheel bearings. There's no doubt still a market for them.

It kind of feels like forced obsolescence from Toyota. You're right though Tim. I see countless third gens every day of the week in Idaho. That cannot be said for most other cars. The only other ones I see regularly from the 90s are suburbans, Chevy trucks of that era, and land cruiser. But the 4runner is easily the most prolific around here. I never see less than 2 dozen a day. And, like you said, they are driven by people who could give a crap less and don't turn wrenches. They just don't die.

That's probably why Toyota is getting rid of parts for us. If they actually build something I was interested in for the role like a third GEN 4unner, I would be all over it. But they don't. Everything else is too big, too wide, too heavy, too expensive.

If anyone from Toyota is reading this, give me something the size of a third gen weighing 4-4500lbs...... body on frame. That would be a very much shut up and take my money now situation. Everything else available these days is just too Porky.

 

[brillo_76]

Toyota been doing this as long as they have been imported here. By 20 years old, lots of parts are discontinued. This is nothing new. Unless anyone knows folks high up in corporate Toyota and can convince them to change its not going to change.

Could be worse, lots of car mfg only supply parts for 10 years. At least Toyota mostly go 20 years. Soon, a lot more parts are going to be dicountinued and will only be available via aftermarket.

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[octanejunkie]

If anyone from Toyota is reading this, give me something the size of a third gen weighing 4-4500lbs...... body on frame. That would be a very much shut up and take my money now situation. Everything else available these days is just too Porky.

FJ Cruiser is closest