Why R tires so bloody expensive

Mark_BC

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Ridiculous, I want a set of 265/70 17 KO2's and they're $280 Canadian plus install plus tax, what does that work out to, damn near $1400 by the time it's all done? That's 1/4 the value of the truck!!!!!!
 
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Then I gotta pay 25% exchange, plus the border guards might suspect something and slap on some duty.
 
Even with the exchange rate, I'll bet it's cheaper if you drive down to Bellingham. Look up the tires you want at Discount Tire and the website will calculate the total price for the store location of your choosing. Costco also sells BFGs and Discount Tire will match any price you find online. I don't think the border folks will know which side of the border you bought your tires.
 
About $1375 Canadian if you buy them at Discount Tire in Bellingham. Pretty close to same price as your side of the border unless you can find a good price for them to match.
 
Ridiculous, I want a set of 265/70 17 KO2's and they're $280 Canadian plus install plus tax, what does that work out to, damn near $1400 by the time it's all done? That's 1/4 the value of the truck!!!!!!

Pretty gross how a tire with less rubber (17" rim) is way more than a tire with More rubber (15" rim) I guess sucka's wanting them 22" dubs gonna pay no matter what.

Really though I just had this same thought as I bought 3 285/75/16's for my 4runner yesterday......Why God why? :cry:
 
Yeah, that's no fun. I hummed and hawed for a while on tires. They're so subjective. I ran KO2's on a Dodge last year and saw 22,000km out of them. Good thing my Kal guy came through for me.

Best I could find was $276 from Kal.

However... P-series Duratracs are $213 right now at CT, depending on what you're looking for!
 
Pretty gross how a tire with less rubber (17" rim) is way more than a tire with More rubber (15" rim) I guess sucka's wanting them 22" dubs gonna pay no matter what.

Really though I just had this same thought as I bought 3 285/75/16's for my 4runner yesterday......Why God why? :cry:

I've been saying the same EXACT THING
 
Ridiculous, I want a set of 265/70 17 KO2's and they're $280 Canadian plus install plus tax, what does that work out to, damn near $1400 by the time it's all done? That's 1/4 the value of the truck!!!!!!

I've had tire store owners tell me it has to to do with the import tax on tires imported to the US, which is most of them. I don't know where the KO2's are made, very hard to find a US made tire these days. That could be bull pucky though, I've never researched it for car/truck tires, but check out these numbers on heavy truck/bus tires.

Final Tariffs on Chinese Truck Tires Are Even Higher Than Before - Commercial Business - Modern Tire Dealer
 
It's partly about size but a lot about technology in the tire. The rubber isn't the expensive part of it. It's the carcass that makes the "frame" of the tire and what all is involved with how they design it.

My father-in law pays over $300 per tire for his BMW 6 M-Series. They're just high performance and run-flats.

FWIW, I pay around $300/tire for my 35's. I could go cheaper but I like having name brand and good technology in a tire that I know will keep me safe in all conditions. As well as last a long time.
 
The tech is really old really. They make up "new tech" designs to push and sell the product more than really improve the tire. Yes it improves the tires when they find better ways to make it but something can only be redesigned so much when its so basic.

If they really want to make a better tire make them last longer and never blow out. I buy cheap retreads because they are way cheaper and have never blown out on me and last the same as any other tire. They even reuse the same "high tech" walls.

To me its most over inflated low tech part on a car.
 
The tech is really old really. They make up "new tech" designs to push and sell the product more than really improve the tire. Yes it improves the tires when they find better ways to make it but something can only be redesigned so much when its so basic.

If they really want to make a better tire make them last longer and never blow out. I buy cheap retreads because they are way cheaper and have never blown out on me and last the same as any other tire. They even reuse the same "high tech" walls.

To me its most over inflated low tech part on a car.

I would agree, but it is also the first, last, and only part of the vehicle that touches the ground. Sure, they have never blown out, that's one aspect of tire safety.

But a brand name tire (certainly in passenger car tires, assuming the same with AT/MT's) will stop a few feet shorter in all conditions, slip marginally less when you need it most.

Sure, it's (brand name) maybe a few $100 notes more expensive, but a rear ender that might have been prevented had your tires slipped less and required ABS activation milliseconds later under braking will certainly make up for intial up front cost. Nevermind the hassle of reporting the incident, dealing with insurance, etc.

Listen, if you drive very slow, are never distracted, and always leave the suggested following distances, what tire you drive on won't likely matter. But I'd wager that even the best drivers out there, will have an "oh ____" moment once every blue moon.

Personally, I live in Toronto, tonnes of terrific drivers, but even more poor drivers. I buy name brand passenger tires because most of my miles are on pavement, and the summer and winter tires I buy are always top 3 in subjective and measured tests on Tirerack. Buys me precious feet of stopping distances when I'm not at the top of my game and focus, margin of error, that's the word I'm looking for.
 
Yesterday I caused an accident in my nissan leaf! Commuting home in the rain, traffic stopped ahead of me at the bottom of the hill. I stopped fairly quickly but not excessively fast. Looked to see the guy behind me stop quicker than I did but he stopped. Also saw the white can behind him not stop... He luckily swerved to hit a lamp post at that exact spot but he also hit the guy behind me. Luckily I wasn't hit so I drive off.
 
It's also one of the most expensive AT tires at the moment.

If you want a cheaper, yet still quality tire, look at the Duratrac. I got my 33's for $950CDN OTD when on sale at CDN Tire. Pretty much no tire, good or bad, is priced like that.

I've been pretty happy with them so far. Way quieter than what I had on before, smooth, comfortable, handle well, etc. I haven't had much time to get aggressive with them, but so far I'm happy. Fuel mileage seems to have taken a hit, but about the same as my mudders before. My snow tires get better mileage (also 33').
 
Yes... KO2's are probably the most expensive AT tire. I am extremely happy with my General Grabber AT2 tires. Paid about $650 for all 4 mounted and balanced. I'm not a tread design expert but I think they will do better in snow and ice anyway. Left me about $600 for Tundra brakes, new exhaust ect... couldn't be more pleased.
 
Yes... KO2's are probably the most expensive AT tire. I am extremely happy with my General Grabber AT2 tires. Paid about $650 for all 4 mounted and balanced. I'm not a tread design expert but I think they will do better in snow and ice anyway. Left me about $600 for Tundra brakes, new exhaust ect... couldn't be more pleased.

Agreed, I'm sure the KO2 is a great tire but my Hankook Dynapro MT's were $680 installed. 285/70R17.

They were the #1 Rated off road tire at OffRoadMag.com when they came out.
 
That's been standard from what I've paid for tires over the last 4 years. My dad picked up 4 35" Off brand MT tires not mounted for little less than 900 out the door. My next set I'm looking at 280 a tire, I've been paying between 232 to 300 a tire for years. I've always been frustrated with the 15" costing less than a 17" but I like what a 17" wheel can 'clear' versus a 15" (brake upgrades and such), with out doing extreme stuff. I really like [MENTION=50342]JayRolla[/MENTION] idea and have done that also in the past.
 
just for the hell of it, price out that same tire in a 37x12.50x17".

I put a set on my 85 last year. OUCH!



as to why they are so expensive, yes, its the additional tax that was applied a couple years ago. imported tires went up a bunch. at least that is part of the reason. another reason is that people will pay the higher price. supply and demand.
 

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