Will I be disappointed?

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swanny

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So the other night, driving on a country road later in the evening, I hit a rock on my wife's 2006 T4R. :redbrick::redbrick::redbrick: Unfortunately, the rock ended up causing a puncture in the block, so I'm not sad as can be that we may be replacing it.

Will we disappointed if we went from the 2006 Sport V8 to any 4th gen with the V6? I know the body styling changed after 2005, and I'm kind of partial to the 2006+ styling, but might have to settle. Inventory is low, which means prices are higher than what we paid two years ago.
 

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not to change the subject, but what kind of rock did you hit? Many folks here wheel their trucks over some pretty tough terrain and I don't think I've see something like that before.
 
Wow! That's impressive. How the hell did you pull that off?

Is it possible to just have some one weld up the hole change the oil and just keep on trucking?
 
Sorry for your loss!
If this were me I would look at replacing the engine. Why buy someone else’s truck that you do not know anything about its history. All you need is an engine and there are a lot of ones that have been wrecked.
Did you run it long without oil? If not find a good welder and have him heliarc the block. You can fill the engine with an inert gas so the left over oil in the engine will not ignite.
I love the V8’s they are a bullet proof, not rock proof, engine!
 
V8Man said:
Sorry for your loss!
If this were me I would look at replacing the engine. Why buy someone else’s truck that you do not know anything about its history. All you need is an engine and there are a lot of ones that have been wrecked.
Did you run it long without oil? If not find a good welder and have him heliarc the block. You can fill the engine with an inert gas so the left over oil in the engine will not ignite.
I love the V8’s they are a bullet proof, not rock proof, engine!
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Excellent point! Why not just replace the motor? Your insurance might even help pay for part of it. Here in Houston, you can get a REBUILT 4.7L for about $2,500.00, or $3,400.00 installed. If I couldn't repair the damage, the rebuild would be a no-brainer. Now, that being said, I am happy with the V6... but, I have never owned the V8. I would assume that had mine had been a V8, I would NOT be happy moving to the V6. In fact, Mrs. Preacher and myself will be purchasing a 4th gen V8 in Jan/Feb of next year. I cannot wait!
 
Unfortunately the rock hit was at 60mph, which is why the damage occurred. I didn't run it more than 100yds afterwards as someone ahead of me also hit it.

I'm looking into the rebuilt engine, but a crate engine from Toyota installed is $6500 (i know there has to be cheaper options out there). Insurance should have more info for me later this week, just preparing for the worst.

I have no idea about welding the engine. Anyone have info on how this is done and what a ballpark cost might be? Do I need to find any sort of special shop for this?
 
swanny said:
Unfortunately the rock hit was at 60mph, which is why the damage occurred. I didn't run it more than 100yds afterwards as someone ahead of me also hit it.

I'm looking into the rebuilt engine, but a crate engine from Toyota installed is $6500 (i know there has to be cheaper options out there). Insurance should have more info for me later this week, just preparing for the worst.

I have no idea about welding the engine. Anyone have info on how this is done and what a ballpark cost might be? Do I need to find any sort of special shop for this?
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Surely you can find a company in Washington that rebuilds and installs engines. Like I said, here in Houston, we have Thunderbolt Motors & Transmissions and they will do the whole shibang for $3,400.00 out the door. Keep us posted on your progress/resolution!
 
I don't think you'll be disappointed as long as you don't need it for towing. The V6 is only 10 less horse power than the V8 so it shouldn't be that noticeable as long as you aren't trying to tow anything too big. And the gas mileage is way better :yo:
 
97BlackAckCL said:
I don't think you'll be disappointed as long as you don't need it for towing. The V6 is only 10 less horse power than the V8 so it shouldn't be that noticeable as long as you aren't trying to tow anything too big. And the gas mileage is way better :yo:
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im guessing he will in fact be disappointed.

he will feel the huge difference in torque. and im not sure I would classify 2mpg as "way" better. slightly better, yes, I'll give you that.
 
nevada said:
im guessing he will in fact be disappointed.

he will feel the huge difference in torque. and im not sure I would classify 2mpg as "way" better. slightly better, yes, I'll give you that.
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I see a lot of V8 owners on here complaining about gas mileage, hardly ever a V6 owner, I've never had any gas complaints with either of my V6 4th gens :happy:
 
I've been plenty happy with the mileage in our V8 so fuel isn't a worry to me. I drive a 1/2 ton Silverado so gas mileage in general isn't really a concern.

On to potential good news though, I guess our vehicles have two oil pans and the damage is to the second oil pan, not the block. About a 2k fix, but hopefully that's low enough for insurance to just fix it rather than total it.

Here is what the mechanic I've used before said from the picture.

"As far as I can tell from that picture, the hole is in the upper oil pan, NOT the block. The engine block is cast iron, and this uses a two piece oil pan. The "upper" aluminum portion attaches to the block, and includes the windage tray, and then the "lower" portion is that black stamped steel more traditional looking oil pan."
 
I vote for installing a fresh v8. You may need to push the insurance company a tad. I went thru getting a new engine via insurance in 2007 and it worked out great. I kept my car but had a fresh block with zero miles.
 
What exactly are we looking at in the picture? That almost looks like the bolt above the hole crashed into the upper oil pan.

The V8's have technically 2 oil pans, a lower stamped metal pan and an aluminum upper pan (many Toyota engines seem to have this design now). It looks like the rock cracked/fractured the upper oil pan, that's not the engine block.

How much damage was done to the engine? If its just a broken section of the upper oil pan and you didn't run the engine long without oil, you may be fine with a new upper pan.

I'm not saying don't try and get the insurance to pay for a new engine, but if push comes to shove; as long as no serious damage was done by the rock to the bottom end internals and the engine wasn't starved for oil for an extended period of time, that may be a salvageable engine.
 
BlackWorksInc said:
What exactly are we looking at in the picture? That almost looks like the bolt above the hole crashed into the upper oil pan.

The V8's have technically 2 oil pans, a lower stamped metal pan and an aluminum upper pan (many Toyota engines seem to have this design now). It looks like the rock cracked/fractured the upper oil pan, that's not the engine block.

How much damage was done to the engine? If its just a broken section of the upper oil pan and you didn't run the engine long without oil, you may be fine with a new upper pan.

I'm not saying don't try and get the insurance to pay for a new engine, but if push comes to shove; as long as no serious damage was done by the rock to the bottom end internals and the engine wasn't starved for oil for an extended period of time, that may be a salvageable engine.
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yea, thats what I learned the other day. I'm hoping that insurance will realize and/or be told this as well and we can get it fixed so long as there is no suspension damage at the same time. The picture unfortunately is upside down when I uploaded it, not sure why.
 
Well just found out that I should get the 4Runner by next Wednesday! I can't tell you how good this makes me feel!

Guess it's time to add some modificatoins. RCI skidplates and the FJ/5100 suspension combo.
 
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