I am getting the S13WE calipers for my 02 4Runner Limited and I need a place that can put the new brakes on. Anyone know of a shop that will do this in the vicinity of New Jersey? And, because I like servicing at Toyota for most needs, do you think I can get the modified 4Runner serviced there?
Will Toyota Service My 02 T4R With Tundra Brakes?
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GHARP57
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as long as you have it written down clearly then there shouldnt be an issue, or you can go to parts buy the pads and put them in the seat and say install them.
jeremyc74
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Depends on the dealer's policies on modified vehicles. Some of them won't do work on safety equipment that's been modified because of liability issues. Even if there's very little risk, there's also not a whole lot of profit there either, so they'll just pass.
Besides, the front brakes on a 4Runner are so easy to do, I'm not sure why anyone would pay to have it done. If you can change a tire you can change these brakes easily. Breaking the lugs loose is the hardest part, assuming the retaining pins aren't rusted up, and with new calipers they won't be.
Besides, the front brakes on a 4Runner are so easy to do, I'm not sure why anyone would pay to have it done. If you can change a tire you can change these brakes easily. Breaking the lugs loose is the hardest part, assuming the retaining pins aren't rusted up, and with new calipers they won't be.
Bijan
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You forgot cutting the dust shield, bleeding the brakes, etc...
snivilous
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Yes, there's additional tasks but it's one of the easiest things to do, and if you're gonna start wrenching it would be easy to attempt on your own.
tx_shooter
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This. Find someone in your area that is good with wrenches and likes beer. Ask them to help you do the project and then let them have the beer once it is done.
LittleCaesar
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You have to cut or trim the dust shield to make way for the larger caliper. I'd use nothing less than a grinder or cut off wheel to make short work of it. The Tundra brake caliper fits the same as for the one used on the 4runner. Think of the dust shield as Pac Man. Just imagine cutting him to give him a bigger mouth.
Also make sure your factory 16" rims will work.
Also make sure your factory 16" rims will work.
jeremyc74
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They're pretty soft, so a decent set of tin snips will do the job too.
There is a TON of stuff that can go wrong swapping to tundra brakes, IF you don't typically wrench on stuff. He has clarified he typically/always takes the rig to someone else it seems for work.
Imagine doing a brake swap with no tools or knowledge? Sure you can remove a bolt. Can you remove the hardline without flare wrenches? What about when you strip the fitting using an open ended wrench? Can you bleed the brakes by yourself when you don't have the tools?
If this job isn't done properly, which it's not "hard" more of the problem having multiple area's of knowledge, you can cause a serious accident. To answer your question, I cannot see a dealership installing these. As stated, liability on them modifying existing brake components, even a dust shield is never in their interest.
If you were to already have these installed, I don't see any reason they could/would deny service if the vehicle safely drove into the building lol. They just don't like anything but what "works from the factory" at the dealership typically.
Imagine doing a brake swap with no tools or knowledge? Sure you can remove a bolt. Can you remove the hardline without flare wrenches? What about when you strip the fitting using an open ended wrench? Can you bleed the brakes by yourself when you don't have the tools?
If this job isn't done properly, which it's not "hard" more of the problem having multiple area's of knowledge, you can cause a serious accident. To answer your question, I cannot see a dealership installing these. As stated, liability on them modifying existing brake components, even a dust shield is never in their interest.
If you were to already have these installed, I don't see any reason they could/would deny service if the vehicle safely drove into the building lol. They just don't like anything but what "works from the factory" at the dealership typically.
Summit Racing
Summit Racing seems to have the best selection when it comes to the Tundra brakes. So, I already have the core parts ordered off Craigslist. Surprisingly, the red calipers from Summit are $149/free shipping+149 core per pair. It's tempting to get this done but my downside is that they must always expect to have a typical 4Runner come in to Toyota when I get it serviced. And the S13WE calipers were recalled off the Tundra because of warping...? One nice thing they did at Toyota was sport-tune the suspension with Bilsteins on my 02 T4R. It's nice...
Summit Racing seems to have the best selection when it comes to the Tundra brakes. So, I already have the core parts ordered off Craigslist. Surprisingly, the red calipers from Summit are $149/free shipping+149 core per pair. It's tempting to get this done but my downside is that they must always expect to have a typical 4Runner come in to Toyota when I get it serviced. And the S13WE calipers were recalled off the Tundra because of warping...? One nice thing they did at Toyota was sport-tune the suspension with Bilsteins on my 02 T4R. It's nice...
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Dust Shield Mod on S13WE Caliper Upgrade 02 4Runner
I found a decent Toyota/Lexus Mechanic who offered to install the pwr-KC2323 Powerstop S13WE caliper/rotor/pad upgrade on my 02 4Runner. So, I understand that the dust shield is the only thing that requires modification. Since it looks like it is too much trouble to take off, what are your recommendations for modifying the dust shield, and how much does it have to be filed or cut back? I've seen the diagram of where the dust shield sits, so it does look like a big job to take off completely...
BTW, I have a S13WE core set that someone can pick up for cheap because I am not going to use it.
I found a decent Toyota/Lexus Mechanic who offered to install the pwr-KC2323 Powerstop S13WE caliper/rotor/pad upgrade on my 02 4Runner. So, I understand that the dust shield is the only thing that requires modification. Since it looks like it is too much trouble to take off, what are your recommendations for modifying the dust shield, and how much does it have to be filed or cut back? I've seen the diagram of where the dust shield sits, so it does look like a big job to take off completely...
BTW, I have a S13WE core set that someone can pick up for cheap because I am not going to use it.
Look at the huge thread for the Tundra brake upgrade. There is a picture of the dust shield marked where it roughly needs to be trimmed. You can use a dremel, tin snips, ect.
Anything you would need or want to know is in that thread. I just ordered my rotors/pads last night. I'll be using my connection at Autozone to get the calipers for cheap. So, I can't tell you first hand any further.
The job isn't very difficult, bleeding brakes is the worst for a noobie to do properly. There isn't a need for loosening the hardline it appears either. I glanced over it and it's just the banjo bolt at the caliper it looked like. If you can bleed brakes, probably easy enough to do yourself.
Anything you would need or want to know is in that thread. I just ordered my rotors/pads last night. I'll be using my connection at Autozone to get the calipers for cheap. So, I can't tell you first hand any further.
The job isn't very difficult, bleeding brakes is the worst for a noobie to do properly. There isn't a need for loosening the hardline it appears either. I glanced over it and it's just the banjo bolt at the caliper it looked like. If you can bleed brakes, probably easy enough to do yourself.
RussToy
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op2:There is a flex section attached to the steering knuckle, but the actual connection to the caliper is a hard line- so you'll need to disconnect that to change the caliper. If it's frozen in there, the factory pre-bent section is pretty cheap to avoid the hassle of making your own (I think it's about 10 bucks)
Gotcha, I assumed it was hardline > flex line > caliper.
I just did Bilstein's up front recently but didn't inspect my brake line's. I initially said he could encounter problems with the fitting between flex line and hardline. Doesn't seem as though that's necessary, so the hardest portion to someone inexperienced is bleeding the brakes, is it not?
I haven't discovered this for myself yet. My bad for the ignorance on the details.
fblainen11
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I try my best to do things on my own. There are some very good write-ups on here. It really was notnhard at all. Read through the write-ups and get a good understanding of what you're doing. Maybe take the wheel off and look at everything while youre reading through. Once you feel confident enough give it a shot. The first side took me about 45 minutes until I realized where I needed to trim the dust shield. I used tin snips to cut the shield. It was easy. Also, if you have abpipe to put over your wrench to get the mounting bolts off that will help as well.
tldr: it is an easy job and id hate to see someone pay for labor on this job with all the resources that this site has.
tldr: it is an easy job and id hate to see someone pay for labor on this job with all the resources that this site has.
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