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That's out already, eh? I guess I need to back up my Skyrim folder. Any chance you're one of those PC gamer guys? I'm curious about it's compatibility with games.
 
Windows 10 and privacy: Windows 10? Here are privacy issues you should consider

Lots of data collection by MS servers on you. It also collects data of your friends/family (even though they are not using MS products) because their info is on your device. Encryption key is in the cloud...so, can be recovered by someone else (MS, police, hackers, etc.).

But this takes the cake...

"We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to protect our customers or enforce the terms governing the use of the services."

and then you have this...

How to stop Windows 10 from sharing your WiFi password | ExtremeTech

I understand the usefulness of such features...but i gotta wonder how this going to abuse and/or hack.

BTW, if you disable location tracking, then you lose Cortana.
 
BlackWorksInc said:
Yeah let me know, I have been debating about jumping on the early bandwagon or waiting for people to try it first.
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will update as I play around

ret42 said:
That's out already, eh? I guess I need to back up my Skyrim folder. Any chance you're one of those PC gamer guys? I'm curious about it's compatibility with games.
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yep I play world of tanks, world of warships, Diablo 3, armored warfare, star citizen and a few others. no FPS though, found out back on DOOM that they give me seasickness after an hour of playing.

also running SLI GTX970's across 3x1920x1080 screens. built in virtual desktops should be interesting.

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note: you should have a windows icon in your system tray to reserve a free win 10 activation (4 white squares next to your clock) if you are eligible for a free upgrade

1. downloaded the iso and usb install files (https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10)
2. tried to do the fresh install from scratch (usb method is way faster, but it will reguire min 3gb (safe is 4gb) drive and will wipe the contents of the usb drive)
3. DONT do the fresh install you will get nowhere
4. you must do the upgrade to actually get a activation key
5. after you get an activation key, then you can do the fresh install

I did the above fresh install from scratch and I am in the process of re-installing win 8 pro and upgrading back to 8.1 pro so I can do the upgrade and grab a serial #/activation key.


FAQ : https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/faq
 
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Thai said:
Windows 10 and privacy: Windows 10? Here are privacy issues you should consider

Lots of data collection by MS servers on you. It also collects data of your friends/family (even though they are not using MS products) because their info is on your device. Encryption key is in the cloud...so, can be recovered by someone else (MS, police, hackers, etc.).

But this takes the cake...

"We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to protect our customers or enforce the terms governing the use of the services."

and then you have this...

How to stop Windows 10 from sharing your WiFi password | ExtremeTech

I understand the usefulness of such features...but i gotta wonder how this going to abuse and/or hack.

BTW, if you disable location tracking, then you lose Cortana.
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trust me, just tooling around briefly after a screwed up install, there is a lot more than just this to turn off.
 
NoDak said:
trust me, just tooling around briefly after a screwed up install, there is a lot more than just this to turn off.
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:wow: Just from the fact that they can see/recover everything, including your private stuff...that is mind blowing in a world where hacks are everywhere and privacy is hard to come by. After Snowden, there is a huge demand for privacy...yet, this brand new product from MS is all about throwing privacy down the drain and promoting the opposite! :mad2:

I am now considering skipping Win10 on my Sony Vaio...and maybe even limiting folks (family & friends) with Win10 products/devices to access my Wifi.
 
It doesn't matter what OS you are running. If it's on a computer connected to any network someone can get in at any time. Don't want to get hacked? Don't connect to a network of any kind. The moment you connect to a network all bets are off for privacy. How many times have you heard of people hacking celebrity cell phones and putting those pictures on line? Now they can hack certain vehicles! Microsoft spying on you should be the least of your concerns.
 
Thai said:
:wow: Just from the fact that they can see/recover everything, including your private stuff...that is mind blowing in a world where hacks are everywhere and privacy is hard to come by. After Snowden, there is a huge demand for privacy...yet, this brand new product from MS is all about throwing privacy down the drain and promoting the opposite! :mad2:

I am now considering skipping Win10 on my Sony Vaio...and maybe even limiting folks (family & friends) with Win10 products/devices to access my Wifi.
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Privacy just isn't valuable to the public anymore when given the option of convenience. There's not enough push back from the public to scare corporations, not when the next Apple, Android, and/or Microsoft offering is so shiny and they buy it anyways. In the end, personal privacy is and has been on a downward slide to extinction for at least a decade or more. There's more than enough digital information out there on you already, sure most of it is in various servers. But information is a commodity that is freely traded behind closed doors, despite what may be told to the public to pander to their ignorance and naivity.

Point being, it doesn't surprise me; information collection is the norm. Hell, new cars collect plenty of information from your phone (through syncing and downloaded companion apps such as Entune or Pandora) and driving habits and now they're starting to get internet connections and servers to communicate when they need service, have a check engine light, and/or have been in an accident.

Welcome to the future?
 
to add to my previous post

Fortunately, if you're running Windows 7 or 8, and you really want to use your free Windows 10 licence key to perform a clean installation rather than upgrade, there is a solution. It's pretty convoluted, but it works.

First, you need to do an in-place upgrade to Windows 10. You can do this via Windows Update, or if Windows Update isn't playing ball you can use the direct download tool: English/German/French/Italian/Dutch. If you use the download tool, make sure you select "Upgrade this PC now." It goes without saying that, before you install any new operating system, you should back up any important data beforehand.

Once the upgrade has completed, make sure you've been activated by Microsoft. Open up the new Settings app, then head to Update & Security, Activation. It will say on the right whether you're activated or not (see image). Also note down what version of Windows 10 you have (Home, Pro).

If you haven't yet been activated, you can try forcing it via command prompt: run cmd.exe as an administrator, then type slmgr.vbs /ato. You may need to try a few times, as the activation servers were being hit quite hard.

This first step will convert your current Windows 7/8 key into a Windows 10 key.

Now you need to install Windows 10 again! Grab the Windows 10 download tool and run it. This time, select "Create installation media for another PC." Select the appropriate version (Home, Pro) and the tool will generate an ISO for you. Let the tool help you burn the ISO to a DVD or USB memory stick.

Now, proceed with a clean installation of Windows 10 (select "Custom: Install Windows only" when prompted.) When it asks you for a product key, click Skip. If it asks you multiple times, just keep hitting Skip.

Once you've installed Windows 10, it should activate normally. Again, you might need to manually slam the servers using slmgr.vbs /ato. Voilà: a clean installation of Windows 10.

In theory, you should be able to reinstall Windows 10 again in the future on the same PC, but if you make significant hardware changes you might need to use the manual telephone activation process. Currently, it isn't clear if you can take your freebie Windows 10 licence key and use it to install Windows 10 on another machine.
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BlackWorksInc said:
Privacy just isn't valuable to the public anymore when given the option of convenience. There's not enough push back from the public to scare corporations, not when the next Apple, Android, and/or Microsoft offering is so shiny and they buy it anyways. In the end, personal privacy is and has been on a downward slide to extinction for at least a decade or more. There's more than enough digital information out there on you already, sure most of it is in various servers. But information is a commodity that is freely traded behind closed doors, despite what may be told to the public to pander to their ignorance and naivity.

Point being, it doesn't surprise me; information collection is the norm. Hell, new cars collect plenty of information from your phone (through syncing and downloaded companion apps such as Entune or Pandora) and driving habits and now they're starting to get internet connections and servers to communicate when they need service, have a check engine light, and/or have been in an accident.

Welcome to the future?
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whats really gonna torque your nuts, the new solitaire has ads, and to get rid of them you have to pay a monthly/yearly fee ($10) to get rid of them.

:)
 
BlackWorksInc said:
Privacy just isn't valuable to the public anymore when given the option of convenience. There's not enough push back from the public to scare corporations, not when the next Apple, Android, and/or Microsoft offering is so shiny and they buy it anyways. In the end, personal privacy is and has been on a downward slide to extinction for at least a decade or more. There's more than enough digital information out there on you already, sure most of it is in various servers. But information is a commodity that is freely traded behind closed doors, despite what may be told to the public to pander to their ignorance and naivity.

Point being, it doesn't surprise me; information collection is the norm. Hell, new cars collect plenty of information from your phone (through syncing and downloaded companion apps such as Entune or Pandora) and driving habits and now they're starting to get internet connections and servers to communicate when they need service, have a check engine light, and/or have been in an accident.

Welcome to the future?
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I agree. But, just admitting defeat and throwing out even more info about you and family just because it is the "norm" is just encouraging corporations to abuse your rights/privacy.

A few examples...Paypal had to revise their policy after its members threw a fit. Google finally taking encryption seriously (but poor implementation). Apple doing its share to keep encryption key out of its hands (and into customer's hands instead).

But this new Microsoft way is just plain ridiculous...worst than anything Google has ever dream up! Microsoft is the old Google...no privacy; collecting shit load of data for its own good and good of 3rd parties. If you don't like it, then you don't get jack from them (e.g. Cortana).

Personally, I will not upgrade to Win10 until MS changes their default settings and not take away features simply because you value privacy.

Everyone is different...but for me, I do not like to be profiled if I can help it.
 
NoDak said:
[MENTION=66389]BlackWorksInc[/MENTION]

here you go

Windows 10?s default privacy settings and controls leave much to be desired | ExtremeTech
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LOL, I read the article after posting above...happy that I am not the only one who feels this way about Win10. And you wonder why MS is now offering FREE stuff...it is really hard to tell the difference b/w MS and Google these days. Personally, I trust Google over MS any day of the week for privacy and security...and that is saying a lot given that I still feel Google as an invasion of privacy.
 
at least they give you the option to turn most of that off, albeit if you go the customize route instead of the express settings.
 
It's about managing your information, big empty digital hole just means more interest in you. The key is to be simple, average, and insignificant. Let them have the useless information while managing the important stuff. They're going to get the information one way or another, if not through MS, then Google or Apple or your credit card company, ect.
 
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