yet another lift thread - about to pull the trigger !!

Which suspension package

  • Toytec Ultimate

    Votes: 13 48.1%

  • OME complete kit

    Votes: 6 22.2%

  • Custom

    Votes: 8 29.6%
  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .
audiness

audiness

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-2000 T4R 4WD, 114K miles, worn out saggy stock suspension
-Current tires: 265/75R16
-Desired tire size: 285/75/16 (33's)
-off-roading : yes
-Towing: No
-bumpers: stock

I am looking for a mild 2 inch or 3 inch lift. I want the truck to handle as well on road as it does off road. I am not into extreme rock crawling, but the goal is for the 4runner to be able to go where my old 80 series landcruiser could go. (which is just about anywhere). I have read many many threads on the subject, and have narrowed it down to 3 choices. but I am still confused!

Option1: Toytec Ultimate Lift (600front/ OME 906 rear)
Lift: 2 inch front and rear
Pros: Adjust-ability, Superior shocks (bilstein 5100s/5125s)
Cons: Price

Option2: OME complete lift kit (880 or 881 coil front, either 906 or 890 rear)
Lift: 1 -2.5 inch front, 2-3 inch rear
Pros: Easy package deal, cheap.
Cons: TOO MANY SPRING CHOICES! read many varied opinons, etc. Some say the shocks are too stiff, others say they are not stiff enough, etc.

Option 3: Custom setup (TRD Tundra front coil w/ billie 5100, rear OME 890 w/ billie 5125)
Lift: 2.5 inch front, 3inch rear
Pros: many people like this setup
Cons: NOt sure how this will look/ride/etc. Might me too much lift for me? Also warranty/ compatability/etc


pls offer your opinion and help me decide! Here is my truck!
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I picked the custom. Trust me, if you only do a 2", you'll be wanting to upgrade to a 3" within a couple months. Just do it right the first time.
 
Have a sonoran steel 1.2 kit on a 2000 sr5 5 speed, drives great, very cushy, does ok for a basic adventure vehicle type suspension. I run 265/75/16 but 285 will fit just fine. About to remove it for radflow 2.5 with external res. all the way around so she will handle the desert better at some speed.
 
I have a 2" lift and am quite happy with it, have been for several months, and have no interest in going to anything higher (I'd go bigger tires before I do that). I chose to steer clear of 3" (or more) because I don't want to deal with all the other stuff that goes along with it.

The OME setup is great - including the 906's - made my truck feel much more secure at highway speeds and it drives just fine for the offroading I do (no crawling). Plus, you can load up the back of your rig and it won't sag. That was important to me with all the camping/biking/snowboarding/etc I do. The only ride difference I've noticed is that the rear is stiffer than stock, but my experience with stock was that it was mush (nearly dangerous mushy). However, you don't have to get OME rear shocks, you can do others and maintain a softer ride. The front, imho, is no different than stock.
 
I am actually running Toytec/Bilstein in the front & LC 8 wraps in the back & I love this setup. The ride is awesome & the 8 wraps flex really well. And I love being able to dial in my coilovers to whatever height I desire. I did NOT want to spend $$$ on a decent setup, only to have to re-do it again for more height. Spending the $$$ for a full setup kinda stinks, but the coilovers handle soooooo much better than stock stuff! So if you can swing the Ultimate, DO IT! :D
 
Thanks for the replies everyone! I am definetly leaning towards the Toytec ultimate, I like the adjust-ability -- although it is the most expensive. I am still not sure about the rear, I want the smallest amount of lift that I can still fit 33's under. Some of these trucks with 3" of lift just seems to high. I only do mild offroading. I think i will try out the 906's and see what 2" does for me.....
 
33s will fit fine in the rear with that, but you may have some trouble with only 2" in the front and fitting 33s...some people are fine, others are not. Good luck.
 
im dealing with the same thing but want close to the full 3" if i can
want comfort ride, decent cornering, some offroad capabilities and able to get through what most others can for group rides
32s or 33s
i dont mind spending the cash to do it right
uca recommended for 3" ?
 
I too find it frustrating, there is actually too much information and too many opinions out there to try and figure out what is the right setup.

But if you want full 3" front and back , most ppl recommend the OME 881w/spacer F/ OME 890R
I want only less than 2 inches, so Im looking at some of the other options like 881or TUndra TRD F and OME 906 rear
 
mattleegee said:
im dealing with the same thing but want close to the full 3" if i can
want comfort ride, decent cornering, some offroad capabilities and able to get through what most others can for group rides
32s or 33s
i dont mind spending the cash to do it right
uca recommended for 3" ?
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The camburg UCA's are very nice... though they are $500...
Toytec has some nice ones too for about $450
 
I was in the same boat as you. After reading a ton of build threads and going through the Lift Information FAQ thread I still wasn't 100% sure what to get.
With a post and some help from snOwrunner I narrowed it down to the following list of parts from Toytec. The total cost was around $700, giving me 3" of lift, and I must say I'm very happy with the results. It does ride a slight bit harsher then the stock set up but is much better due to the original struts that were way past there prime.

Front Bilstein 5100 shocks
Front OME 881 coils with top plate spacers
Rear NGTR-4R shocks (same shocks from their ultimate lift kit)
Rear OME 890 coils
Front Differential Drop Kit

I also installed the Tundra wheels, 265-70-17 tires and 1" wheel spacers.

Some before and after shots.
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blue dog said:
Have a sonoran steel 1.2 kit on a 2000 sr5 5 speed, drives great, very cushy, does ok for a basic adventure vehicle type suspension.
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I have the exact same setup only I got the Toyota/Tokico rear shocks instead of the Bilsteins, and I think it rides really bouncy. Once I build a bumper and put the spare on the back, I'm hoping it settles down. Overall, I feel like I spent too much on the SS kit. It does the job, but could be pieced together for a lot cheaper either by hunting for used parts or just using the OME equivalent.
 
OK, well the trigger has been pulled. I ended up buying the following:

Front:
TRD Tundra Progressive Coils - new from dealer (should give about 2.5 inch lift)
Bilstein Height Adjustable 5100 shock - new from Toytec

Rear:
OME 906 Coils- new from Toytec (should give 2 inch lift)
Bilstein 5215 shocks - new from Toytec

I did wayy to many hours of research on this, and I ultimately chose this setup because I only want a mild lift . The only thing I am concerned about is the spring rate on the 906s is pretty high, and I don't do a lot of towing, so we will have to see how stiff the rear end is. Hopefully the Bilsteins will keep things nice and smooth, I have heard nothing but good feedback about the 5100/5125s. I will post up once it is installed!

thanks again for the replies everyone :cheers:
 
Did you order any trim packers for the rear? The 906s will only give you around 2" of lift, so you may have some negative rake.
 
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