Oregon Backcountry Discovery Route 2017 Planning

BlackWorksInc said:
Did you see the thread I made in the Pacific NW Sub-Section of the forum for off-roading this weekend? :) Beer is mandatory for you though. LOL
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Supposed to be good weather...full trip report...before and after the beer... :beer: Saturday I'll be watching the Duck/Dawg game.

So I'm thinking Saturday, July 8th - 18th/19th. Gives us the 4th to spend with family. I think June might be too early. Thoughts??? Half of Route 5 from Cali north and then over to the coast??
 
BlackWorksInc said:
Did you see the thread I made in the Pacific NW Sub-Section of the forum for off-roading this weekend? :) Beer is mandatory for you though. LOL]

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I'm sorry [MENTION=116467]Rock_Rat[/MENTION] I kinda hijacked your thread... I'll shut up now.
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No problem!! Hope you guys get out and hit something challenging before the weather sets in. 3 1/2 hrs is a long haul for me for a day trip.
 
Proposed dates and proposed routes: Thoughts??

I think June is too early due to the rainfall percentages. We're still at 50% precip throughout most of Oregon. In July, the percentage drops off to <30%.

Also, based on other reports from here and other sites there's still a lot of deadfalls that haven't been cleared and not all of the snow has melted. Also, any later and we might run into an early fire season. Let me know if the following dates would work out for everyone;

Meet Wednesday, July 5th at starting destination through Friday July 14th. That's ten days, which of course includes some cushion days. It also allows us to spend time with family over the 4th and finishing up "last minute" prep.

The other element is which direction and which route? What I would like out of the trip:

  • Challenging, rocks and water crossing would be cool...
  • Scenery to include the Cascades...
  • Elevation...
  • Alpine lakes for fishing...

As for the direction I think that depends on the majority decision. Anyway you look at it we all need to either drive there on paved roads to the start or drive on paved roads back. Safety needs to be numero uno! If the majority of the dual sport folks go from south to north then I think we need to respect that. I live about an hour away from Stevenson in SW Wa so obviously it would be convenient for me to start on Route 5, Section 4. I don't want to do this route just for convenience. I would like to include all the elements that we want out of this trip. I'm open to any of the routes.

Here's the link to the routes: Oregon Backcountry Discovery Routes
 
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How many people are you wanting to constitute your group?

Are you planning on any meet and greets prior to departure? I see some people have proposed some get togehters but nothing solid. My experience is that it's an absolutely terrible idea to go "blind" into this and just assume everyone is compatible with your personality, driving style, camping style, etc.

Are you planning on camping every night?

What sort of daily mileages are you wanting to do?

Are you wanting to stop a lot to explore stuff, hike, take pictures, etc., or are you wanting to drive a lot?

What sort of comms do you have and do you expect others to have? CB? Ham? FRS?

Feels like this needs some more planning / info / listed expectations / etc.

I'm vaguely interested. I am not, however, willing to commit to ten days on a route with guys I've never met and without some firm knowledge of what the expectations are.

Side note, I was just in the Cascades (McKenzie Pass area) outside Sisters recently. Beautiful area.
 
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MeefZah said:
How many people are you wanting to constitute your group? NOT MANY - three to five at the most. A lot of folks make plans but end up backing out at the last minute for one reason or another.

Are you planning on any meet and greets prior to departure? - YES I see some people have proposed some get togethers but nothing solid. My experience is that it's an absolutely terrible idea to go "blind" into this and just assume everyone is compatible with your personality, driving style, camping style, etc. Couldn't agree with you more!!

Are you planning on camping every night? - NO, Need to break it up.

What sort of daily mileages are you wanting to do? - RECOMMENDED

Are you wanting to stop a lot to explore stuff, hike, take pictures, etc., or are you wanting to drive a lot? - MOSTLY DRIVING But don't want to regret NOT stopping after it's all over.

What sort of comms do you have and do you expect others to have? CB? Ham? FRS? - CB's between us. I'll have a 2m HAM and CB.

Feels like this needs some more planning / info / listed expectations / etc.

I'm vaguely interested. I am not, however, willing to commit to ten days on a route with guys I've never met and without some firm knowledge of what the expectations are.

Side note, I was just in the Cascades (McKenzie Pass area) outside Sisters recently. Beautiful area.
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I couldn't agree with you more. Been on a few weekend runs with "folks with different strokes". Great guys but different interests. Wouldn't want to be with them for any length of time. Seemed partying at night was pretty high on their agenda.

Right now it's all in the preliminary stages. As for equipment, there will be at least a few of us with all the recovery gear needed, tools, chain saw, axe, high lift, treds, winch, etc. That can be sorted out later. Not everyone needs that stuff.

Meet and greets are important. Will make plans later on for a few runs or an overnight somewhere.
 
Rock_Rat said:
I couldn't agree with you more. Been on a few weekend runs with "folks with different strokes". Great guys but different interests. Wouldn't want to be with them for any length of time. Seemed partying at night was pretty high on their agenda.

Right now it's all in the preliminary stages. As for equipment, there will be at least a few of us with all the recovery gear needed, tools, chain saw, axe, high lift, treds, winch, etc. That can be sorted out later. Not everyone needs that stuff.

Meet and greets are important. Will make plans later on for a few runs or an overnight somewhere.
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Cool. Glad to hear it. I'm interested so I'll keep an eyes on the thread.
 
Hey guys, I didn't want this thread to get lost out there as so many often do. The last we talked [MENTION=89794]BackOff[/MENTION] [MENTION=93300]GhostRing[/MENTION] were ready to hit some trails in the Bend area and tip a few beers. You guys never reported back!! Hope it happened.

So I'll be heading out to the Overland West Expo in May. I'll either join a caravan from a few of the guys from PDX Overlanders up here or branching off and going through Yellowstone, Moab, Zion and Grand Canyon on the way to Flagstaff or on the way back. A lot depends on what my buddy from Georgia is doing. He's either transporting his JK or driving here and back. I'll let you know how that turns out.

Anyway, the dates for the OBDR are Wednesday July 5th (All meet that evening). Begin driving on the 6th - the 14th. That's a few extra days to do 750 plus miles if we do Route 5. California to the Oregon/Wa border. When I did the WABDR I averaged about 120 a day with a few short days in there.

Let me know if the dates work for you guys. We still need to get together during a weekend and go wheeling a bit and get to know each other. Compatibility is pretty important. January is pretty busy for me with a HAM Cram next weekend and an Overland meeting on the 29th.

I'm thinking maybe Presidents day weekend if you guys are free. Enjoy the snow and go rescue some of these ridiculous drivers! Someone is going to providing beer!! I read that in a post!
 
Hey Rock_Rat I would be into wheeling with you at some point.

Has been a little action around Bend.
BlackWorksInc and I hit Edison...that was an adventure. 10 miles in 5 hours. FUN! I blame GhostRing for that...J/K, lol...was fun/intense.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/pacific-nw/226407-central-oregon-off-road-day-around-bend.html
Then shearn and I made it to Cline Butte OHV for a quick hour play. He had a week old runner and work so we played all mellow.

I love the Baker City area, been trying to buy land out there for some time now...greedy realtors are grabbing up everything and jacking the price 200-300%...that's capatalizim for ya!

Not into partying...mellow and quiet is the way I like it.

Insane snow this year may keep a lot of the high county off limits till mid to late June. IMO.

I would be into about 4-5 days more than that gets to be troublesome for me.
Have not been to the coast since the late 1990's so that would be fun for me...but however you decide I can meet up for some of it.
 
Rock_Rat said:
Hey guys, I didn't want this thread to get lost out there as so many often do. The last we talked [MENTION=89794]BackOff[/MENTION] [MENTION=93300]GhostRing[/MENTION] were ready to hit some trails in the Bend area and tip a few beers. You guys never reported back!! Hope it happened.

So I'll be heading out to the Overland West Expo in May. I'll either join a caravan from a few of the guys from PDX Overlanders up here or branching off and going through Yellowstone, Moab, Zion and Grand Canyon on the way to Flagstaff or on the way back. A lot depends on what my buddy from Georgia is doing. He's either transporting his JK or driving here and back. I'll let you know how that turns out.

Anyway, the dates for the OBDR are Wednesday July 5th (All meet that evening). Begin driving on the 6th - the 14th. That's a few extra days to do 750 plus miles if we do Route 5. California to the Oregon/Wa border. When I did the WABDR I averaged about 120 a day with a few short days in there.

Let me know if the dates work for you guys. We still need to get together during a weekend and go wheeling a bit and get to know each other. Compatibility is pretty important. January is pretty busy for me with a HAM Cram next weekend and an Overland meeting on the 29th.

I'm thinking maybe Presidents day weekend if you guys are free. Enjoy the snow and go rescue some of these ridiculous drivers! Someone is going to providing beer!! I read that in a post!
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I'd be interested probably in the first few days, running CA border north.
 
I'm interested for some of it,but have recently lost a family member and personal issues.

I've done a few years of this now so would like to say I am fairly knowledgeable in regards to this,but don't call myself an expert at all. We normally get up, grab a small/quick breakfast and hit the road by 730/8am and drive til 6pm. On average we do about 100 miles and that includes stopping and seeing sights. I can send you my driving reports for route 3 last year and previous year from the routrs show how long we drove, avg speed etc...good information. Average speed is 30ish, 7 hours and 30 minutes drive time. I love doing these and would love to get to know more people that want to do this. We go out wheeling at least a month (snow, exploring etc). My father does the more extreme, I don't. ..medical, but I can do a lot, just no crushers, waterfall , seven up and such at Browns camp as an example.

Not to hijack the post but we are doing three overland trips this year and atm 4 next year confirmed. .lol.

June 15th-17th (father's day weekend ) - route 6 from i5 to the coast and back.

August 20-26th - Steens Mountain overland explore

September 9-20th - Ouray, CO. Never been but driving and my father is trailering his rig. Plan is to do day trips from a central spot, atm. I wanted to drive camp, but we all have to adjust. ..

2018, king of the hammers / moab to overland expo in Flagstaff
. Expedition Overland did this last year I believe / moab east (300 miles of trail) and 2019+ Oregon trail (you can supposedly do life 75%, talked to a guy two years ago about it, takes 2 months roughly) / Canada trails ;)
 
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Can't commit but I am watching this thread. Been eyeing the discovery routes for a while and I might be able to swing a July trip.

Side topic (and not meaning to thread derail) but we (Tamarack Media Co) are hosting our annual Colossal event Sept 23-26th, 2017. Starting point will be Nelson BC, Canada which isnt that far from all of you (assuming your in Oregon or Washington). Take advantage of the Canadian dollar and come check it out!

Full details released in the coming days.
 
rickashay said:
Can't commit but I am watching this thread. Been eyeing the discovery routes for a while and I might be able to swing a July trip.

Side topic (and not meaning to thread derail) but we (Tamarack Media Co) are hosting our annual Colossal event Sept 23-26th, 2017. Starting point will be Nelson BC, Canada which isnt that far from all of you (assuming your in Oregon or Washington). Take advantage of the Canadian dollar and come check it out!

Full details released in the coming days.
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I liked the clip. Looking good. Not sure if I can make it as I have a lot planned this year. Still planning the Overland Trip to Flagstaff then I'll be planning this one. Family are visiting for week the first week in October so I'll be working on "honey do's", remodeling, decorating, etc.
 
Just returned from the Overland West Expo and it's now time to start planning heavily for the upcoming OBDR trip. How does a meet and greet THIS weekend sound to everyone? Run a trail or so together in an agreed location. I'm open.

Plans are for a small group of around five or so. A few may want to join in on a leg or two. I think South to North is the preferred direction but all optional routes are open for discussion. Dates would be the days right after July 4th.

Once everyone responds, I'll put together an email group. Not everyone has an FB account.
[MENTION=132734]MeefZah[/MENTION]
[MENTION=93300]GhostRing[/MENTION]
[MENTION=66389]BlackWorksInc[/MENTION]
[MENTION=139777]ZPT_Yoda[/MENTION]
[MENTION=63700]Rcastle[/MENTION]
[MENTION=82154]GSPRunner[/MENTION]
[MENTION=89794]BackOff[/MENTION]
[MENTION=120292]Brian3676[/MENTION]
[MENTION=147062]shearn[/MENTION]
[MENTION=101372]Dropzone[/MENTION]
[MENTION=148570]jayd524[/MENTION]
[MENTION=142781]ram3010[/MENTION]
[MENTION=65505]Kotrin[/MENTION]
[MENTION=63060]rickashay[/MENTION] - Good video opportunity!
 
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[MENTION=116467]Rock_Rat[/MENTION] - I would love to do a meet and greet but this weekend I'm packing and prepping for Alvord Desert from the 9th through the 18th. I would still like to swing by (depending on where & time) but may not run any trails as I would need to High-Tail it out to get back.

Whats your plan in regards to the trails? Depending on the day I may be able to run anything (but not going to stress the rig since i'm doing the Desert Trip next week.)

I'll PM you my e-mail since I currently don't use that Face???, MyFace?, umm oh yeah Facebook :P
 
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