zidaro
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Jumping!! Not so certain this is a jumping machine at this point. But I'm not done. It is now at the stage i like to consider wheelable. I wish Toyota put this level of suspension and size tires on showroom 4runners. Now its ready to play!
Now- i have some big ideas, but that may be down the trail a ways. First i need to get busy on full skids, sliders, bumpers, roof rack, lighting, and some trail amenities. Damn, that sounds expensive- i better pick up some overtime shifts :cheers:
The 5th gen LCAs-
i started out planning to clean up my OEM arms, replace the rubber bushings with Urethane Daystars- which should let the suspension cycle much better than bonded rubber bushings. Done. The Cam Adjuster tabs on the frame were blown out, so i picked up a set of Total Chaos Tab Gussets- super beefy. These are great for keeping your alignment in spec even when your bouncing thru rutted roads.
When i pulled the arms, the cam bolts were seized and i had to cut them out. They are expensive, and i then needed to replace one of the LCA bushings, more $$. I knew the 5th/4th gen runners and FJCs had the same frames and suspension components. A guy on TFJC had just rolled his FJ and was parting it out, so i picked up his arms and all the hardware from him. Little did i know the Cam bolt hardware was upgraded in '10 to larger diameter- very small difference, but def. thicker hardware and a heavier "feel". Aside from the bushings/hardware at the frame, everything else on the +'10 arms fits right up. The spindles are identical as well as the mount. The ball joint pivot assembly is larger but mounts the same. There are small differences in gussets along the arm itself.
I don't think it would be worth "upgrading" to the later arms unless the 4th gen arms have damage or some other issue that leads you to believe they need replacement. If you had to replace them, and you were going to add the Total Chaos Cam Gusset Kit- then i would certainly upgrade at the same time. Rather than buying some Ebay arm, find a set of later OEM Toyota arms with all the hardware included(cam bolts and ball joint) and fit them up to your frame with the larger dis. TC Gusset Kit.
One of my favorite things about Toyotas is the ability to blend parts form generations and models. Brake upgrades, third members, bearings, engines, transmissions, etc... always amazes me what will bolt up and work together- almost like the yota engineers planned it.
Sometimes i like to do it just for the sake of it- so long as its always an UPGRADE!!!! :cheers:
Ha, know what you mean. Can get frustrating mulling thru the junk.
I am usually in no real hurry, but looking for particular things. Ready to jump on them when i see them come up. I started piling parts up before i even bought the Runner :artist2:
Most i found on T4R or TFJC forums. Tacomaworld is a good one too.
The 120 platforms are the same- LexusGX, 07+FJC, 4th/5th gen T4R, front suspension on the 05+Tacos. Only minor differences if any. Can be inconvenient surprises if your not aware of the differences :whipping2
but anyways i have a question. In this picture is that the wiring for the running boards that you have zip tied to the frame? If so could you please post a pic of what color the wires for it are and what they look like? I have an sr5 that came with non lit running boards and am trying to see if i already have the wires in my wiring harness somewhere, they just weren't poked through the floorboard, or if I'm going to have to find a different source to wire them to. Im trying to tap into the wires to install some rock lights. I haven't been able to find this info anywhere. Thanks!
