'14 SR5 lift question

[govnajedi]

https://bilsteinlifts.com/shop/03-0...justable-front-and-matching-5100-rear-shocks/

Newbie here. Just getting in the game.
Is this what I need to make my SR5 look like a TRD Pro? How high in the front vs the rear or will the dealer know this? Any warranty concerns or long term issues?

 

[gm350reratliff]

Yes, that should get you where you want to be. From what I've gathered on here, the second notch up (~.85") should be around the same height as the TRDP.

FYI, Last time I checked, Wheelers Offroad were the only ones that had 5100s in stock.

 

[govnajedi]

Yes, that should get you where you want to be. From what I've gathered on here, the second notch up (~.85") should be around the same height as the TRDP.

FYI, Last time I checked, Wheelers Offroad were the only ones that had 5100s in stock.

What are the biggest advantages for me to get these versus leaving them stock?

 

[manofsteele2003]

Dude I really don't want to be one of those people but you keep starting threads that have been discussed a million times over.

A quick second search brings up a ton of info

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/search.php?searchid=3830714

 

[gm350reratliff]

What are the biggest advantages for me to get these versus leaving them stock?

The biggest advantage in my opinion is a better, more controlled ride. Less nose diving while braking and not as much roll in the corners. To me, the 5100s are a better solution than a top spacer lift while still being affordable by most people.

I prefer a more controlled ride than say a Buick or Caddy riding vehicle. Some folks want it the other way around.

 

[govnajedi]

The biggest advantage in my opinion is a better, more controlled ride. Less nose diving while braking and not as much roll in the corners. To me, the 5100s are a better solution than a top spacer lift while still being affordable by most people.

I prefer a more controlled ride than say a Buick or Caddy riding vehicle. Some folks want it the other way around.

My Toyota dealer is telling me that these Bilsteins will not give me the TRD look that I am after. They told me these are just a replacement to the stock part and provide no lift. He had to be looking at something else because it says these are adjustable.

 

[gm350reratliff]

Those should give you the height and then some if you wanted. Your parts guy must be confused with something else. The TRDP is only .5"-1" taller in the front anyway.

 

[cjacob316]

My Toyota dealer is telling me that these Bilsteins will not give me the TRD look that I am after. They told me these are just a replacement to the stock part and provide no lift. He had to be looking at something else because it says these are adjustable.

If you're going to trust your dealer over the people here then don't bother asking the people here. We have no stake in the products we suggest, the dealer makes money off of you if you buy their product, so make your own judgement on who to trust. You've been given an answer and at this point you can either take our advice or not, but quit asking the same question over and over again only to counter with "well my dealer said"

 

[cjacob316]

The biggest advantage in my opinion is a better, more controlled ride. Less nose diving while braking and not as much roll in the corners. To me, the 5100s are a better solution than a top spacer lift while still being affordable by most people.

I prefer a more controlled ride than say a Buick or Caddy riding vehicle. Some folks want it the other way around.

I agree that not only is a proper suspension better than using spacers, and the 5100's will be a better suspension than the stock SR5 suspension, but this option is drastically cheaper than the option his dealer is trying to sell him.

 

[govnajedi]

Do I use Bilstein part # 24-196499 for the front and set it at 1.75"?

What about the rear, can I leave the rear the way it came stock or should I use part # 33-187174?

 

[gm350reratliff]

Do I use Bilstein part # 24-196499 for the front and set it at 1.75"?

What about the rear, can I leave the rear the way it came stock or should I use part # 33-187174?

That is entirely up to you and your wallet. You can upgrade the front without touching the rear. To me, it would be worth it to upgrade the rear shock as well though.

 

[govnajedi]

That is entirely up to you and your wallet. You can upgrade the front without touching the rear. To me, it would be worth it to upgrade the rear shock as well though.

Is that what you did on your white one or did you jist do the front? I believe the total cost is $400 plus labor for front/rear. I'm in the snowy Midwest, I don't go off-roading, but I like the look of yours a lot and ai want the same height of the TRD Pro.

Love how your white T4R looks. Can I ask you some questions about it? In your opinion would the black TRD rims or matte gray (PTR20-35110-GR) look better to go along with my classic silver exterior? Now that the Netta Grapplers are out would you have bought those or do you like the BF Goodrich tires? I still have the stock Dunlop Grandtek AT20 so I didn't know if leaving those on would make with the new TRD rims or not.

 

[Saker]

... To me, it would be worth it to upgrade the rear shock as well though.

I firmly agree with [MENTION=32290]gm350reratliff[/MENTION] on ^.
I would use matching rear shocks.
The OEM ones you will be removing are definately inferior!

 

[gm350reratliff]

Is that what you did on your white one or did you jist do the front? I believe the total cost is $400 plus labor for front/rear. I'm in the snowy Midwest, I don't go off-roading, but I like the look of yours a lot and ai want the same height of the TRD Pro.

Love how your white T4R looks. Can I ask you some questions about it? In your opinion would the black TRD rims or matte gray (PTR20-35110-GR) look better to go along with my classic silver exterior? Now that the Netta Grapplers are out would you have bought those or do you like the BF Goodrich tires? I still have the stock Dunlop Grandtek AT20 so I didn't know if leaving those on would make with the new TRD rims or not.

Thanks man!

Actually, I went with some Icon IVD coated extended travel COs with Camburg ball joint UCAs for the front. For the rear, I went with Sway-a-way 1.5" springs and Bilstein 5100 shocks. I spent more money than I planned on but I like how it turned out. If I were to do it over, I'd go with Icon or Total Chaos UCAs. I'm not really happy with the lack of caster from the Camburgs (it drives good, but the numbers in my head are eating at me). Also I'd possibly go with Icon rear shocks (just to match the front). I got a good deal on everything through Wheelers Offroad using the black friday discounts they gave me.

I do run the 5100s all around on my 4th gen and they have been good to me. Just hit the 70k mark with that setup.

As for the wheels, it comes down to your opinion on what you think looks best. I think the black wheels would look best but the grey would probably look good too. For tires, I like BFGs. I've ran countless sets of the ATs over the years on everything from my 4Runner, my '69 F100, to my former F350 dually. They work great for me in all conditions I've put them through. I'll probably get a set of the new KO2s after the first of the year and move the KOs to my 4th gen. The Nittos seem ok though. I installed a bunch of those when I was in the truck accessory biz. Never really had any complaints on the Nittos that I can remember. Since your in the midwest, I'd recommend the BFG KO2s since they are severe snow rated.

 

[govnajedi]

Hi

Thanks man!

Actually, I went with some Icon IVD coated extended travel COs with Camburg ball joint UCAs for the front. For the rear, I went with Sway-a-way 1.5" springs and Bilstein 5100 shocks. I spent more money than I planned on but I like how it turned out. If I were to do it over, I'd go with Icon or Total Chaos UCAs. I'm not really happy with the lack of caster from the Camburgs (it drives good, but the numbers in my head are eating at me). Also I'd possibly go with Icon rear shocks (just to match the front). I got a good deal on everything through Wheelers Offroad using the black friday discounts they gave me.

I do run the 5100s all around on my 4th gen and they have been good to me. Just hit the 70k mark with that setup.

As for the wheels, it comes down to your opinion on what you think looks best. I think the black wheels would look best but the grey would probably look good too. For tires, I like BFGs. I've ran countless sets of the ATs over the years on everything from my 4Runner, my '69 F100, to my former F350 dually. They work great for me in all conditions I've put them through. I'll probably get a set of the new KO2s after the first of the year and move the KOs to my 4th gen. The Nittos seem ok though. I installed a bunch of those when I was in the truck accessory biz. Never really had any complaints on the Nittos that I can remember. Since your in the midwest, I'd recommend the BFG KO2s since they are severe snow rated.

What should I do if I don't off road, but want to achieve the look of the TRD Pro? Bistein 5100's all around and at what height? You mentioned something about the back not matching the front? Will I have any issues like that over time with sagging,etc.....what if I just leave my Dunlop's and swap out the stock rims with black TRD's. What are your thoughts on Michelin MTX LS/2? I think the black TRD's are more popular than matte gray, would you agree?

Thanks for the advice! As you can tell I'm a newbie at this stuff. Should I trust my Toyota here for the shock installs or go elsewhere?

 

[cjacob316]

no he's saying he would change his rear shocks to be the same brand as his front. He wasn't saying anything about your 4runner

go somewhere that will allow you to purchase the shocks on your own and get them to install them. Don't deal with a dealer when it comes to aftermarket stuff

 

[govnajedi]

no he's saying he would change his rear shocks to be the same brand as his front. He wasn't saying anything about your 4runner

go somewhere that will allow you to purchase the shocks on your own and get them to install them. Don't deal with a dealer when it comes to aftermarket stuff

I have to research someone around my area then. Like an independent Toyota shop?

 

[govnajedi]

Thanks man!

Actually, I went with some Icon IVD coated extended travel COs with Camburg ball joint UCAs for the front. For the rear, I went with Sway-a-way 1.5" springs and Bilstein 5100 shocks. I spent more money than I planned on but I like how it turned out. If I were to do it over, I'd go with Icon or Total Chaos UCAs. I'm not really happy with the lack of caster from the Camburgs (it drives good, but the numbers in my head are eating at me). Also I'd possibly go with Icon rear shocks (just to match the front). I got a good deal on everything through Wheelers Offroad using the black friday discounts they gave me.

I do run the 5100s all around on my 4th gen and they have been good to me. Just hit the 70k mark with that setup.

As for the wheels, it comes down to your opinion on what you think looks best. I think the black wheels would look best but the grey would probably look good too. For tires, I like BFGs. I've ran countless sets of the ATs over the years on everything from my 4Runner, my '69 F100, to my former F350 dually. They work great for me in all conditions I've put them through. I'll probably get a set of the new KO2s after the first of the year and move the KOs to my 4th gen. The Nittos seem ok though. I installed a bunch of those when I was in the truck accessory biz. Never really had any complaints on the Nittos that I can remember. Since your in the midwest, I'd recommend the BFG KO2s since they are severe snow rated.

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[manofsteele2003]

You can't get the ko2's in the stock size until March, only size close is 275/70/17 which is an E rated tire.

 

[govnajedi]

You can't get the ko2's in the stock size until March, only size close is 275/70/17 which is an E rated tire.

I might as well just get the Nitto Grapplers then. They look just about the same. Much better than my stock Dunlop's once I put the stock TRD rims on.