17x8 Procomp 7005 & Firestone Destination A/T Pics/Review

jakehere

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These are Pro-Comp wheels part number 7005-7883

17x8 with 4.5" backspacing 0mm offset.

Also installed Firestone Destination A/T 265/70-17 (stock size) P-rated.

I scoured the internet and the best deal I could find for the wheels was at 4wheelonline.com - the four wheels to my door were $583.76. The wheels drop shipped right from ProComp in California, I received them next day and didn't have to pay tax! 4wheelparts might have been a little less, but if you have one in your state then you have to pay tax so it turned out to be more.

I got the Tires at my local Firestone dealer for $740 installed including tax. They said the tires were $5 each over cost but I dunno. Happy with the price. Didn't buy any extended warranty or anything.

I bought the 24 black 12mm x 1.5 lugs at Pep Boys for about $33. Tire shop only had chrome and they were like $60. I also picked up the short antenna I read about on the antenna thread while I was there and it's awesome, thanks for the tip!

The center caps from ProComp were a bit cheap and didn't fit properly so I didn't use them. These ProComp wheels' centerbore is 108mm and the stock Toyota hub is 106.8mm so there's not much room for the center caps to squeeze in there. The ProComp center caps are the old school type that have a flange and insert from the back, not the modern "snap in" type.

I spray painted the hubs with Rustolium BBQ grill paint, works awesome. Also front windows are tinted.

An interesting snag I ran into was that the factory front studs don't protrude out as far as the rear studs do. The installation guy pointed out that the lugs aren't threading on much more than 7-8 revolutions on the front which is a little sketchy. The rear was fine. The front toyota hub plate area is thicker than on the rear, but all 24 studs are the same, just on the front they aren't allowed to protrude as much due to the fatter hub piece.

Also to note, the factory SR5 17x7" wheels weighed 29.6 lbs each and these new ProComps weighed in at 24.4 lbs! Nice! I ship professionally so yes I zeroed the scales and made sure it was 100% accurate. So the new wheels more than offset the heavier tires! Nice.

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Review- Like many people have reported putting a new set of tires on these Runners makes a pretty noticeable difference. It doesn't wander and feel like you're driving on marshmellows anymore. More connected to the road and more "normal" - like how it should have came from the factory. Maybe cause the wheels are an inch wider that makes it more stable too, but probably more related to the tires. Very nice improvement over stock. Road noise is about the same as stock which is pretty amazing since these A/T tires are fairly aggressive looking.

So all in all I'm extremely satisfied. Now I'm trying to sell my factory wheels and tires on craigslist / ebay and almost pay for my upgrade hopefully.

Oh also I got the Huskyliners in black and I absolutely love them. Trimmed the nibs off at the door sills and let them sit in the sun for 15 mins to relax them made them fit perfectly.

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~jake
 
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I like the looks a lot , although the offset on the rims do not seem to stick out much further than stock , maybe it's intentional I don't know , but still looks good with the rims . I like those rims a lot . Those are what I want .

How come you didn't get center caps.

Where did you order them from ?
 
Not to rain on your parade, but I don't care for the look. I have a Blizzard Pearl as well as have been contemplating on going with Black Rims but IMO (no offense) it takes away from the "new" look of your 4Runner and makes it look dated.

I'm a huge fan of black rims, I just think it's too much black or too flat. If all the chrome pieces were black I think it will pull it together better but that's just me. Again, I don't mean to rain on your parade. I'm glad you are happy with your choice but you did help me decide that "flat black" rims are not the way I'm gonna go. May a gloss black rim will suffice me......who knows.

Anyway, congrats and have a good one!
 
Not to rain on your parade, but I don't care for the look. I have a Blizzard Pearl as well as have been contemplating on going with Black Rims but IMO (no offense) it takes away from the "new" look of your 4Runner and makes it look dated.

I'm a huge fan of black rims, I just think it's too much black or too flat. If all the chrome pieces were black I think it will pull it together better but that's just me. Again, I don't mean to rain on your parade. I'm glad you are happy with your choice but you did help me decide that "flat black" rims are not the way I'm gonna go. May a gloss black rim will suffice me......who knows.

Anyway, congrats and have a good one!

I agree with toy.....dont get me wrong.....i love the black wheels! But with a white SR5, all of the chrome needs to be blacked out too look right. Thats why i went with chrome wheels with the blizzard pearl. This is my first white vehicle and I love the black/white/chrome contrast. The only thing that looks wrong too me on mine is the silver roof rack end caps. I may paint them a semi flat black. Just worried about it peeling off with the pressure washer?? Good luck with your project!
 
It seems most black wheels nowadays are the flat black, not glossy. I had a tough time finding glossy black wheels but there's more to this story...

I sold my 07 Tundra because I was getting 12MPG and here in So Cal 87 Octane (the cheapest) is $4.20+ a gallon. I'm hoping to get 17MPG with the 4R. (I drive mainly around the suburbs). Going from 12 to 17 MPG's will save me $100 a month in gas.

An important thing to consider when you at all care about MPG's is rotating mass. I was searching for a wheel that weighed right around 25 lbs. That really narrows down the choices, (see tirerack for wheel weights.) A lot of them are closer to 30 lbs each. The stock 17" FJ wheels are 26 lbs. which is a good choice. I did a lot of research and forum searching. I also had my eye on the Black Rock Type D 909B
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Black Rock Type D Series 909B : Black Rock

These spec out at 23lbs each and they're cheap, but not sure about the center cap and style. And they come in a 17x8 with 4.5" backspacing. Again, they are flat black. Wish I could have seen a pick of a 4R with these wheels.

Larger diameter and/or heavier tires, and heavier wheels= rotating mass. It's a big MPG killer. Especially in the tires since it's near the outside of the circle. Think flywheels. It would be ridiculous for me to put larger tires and heavy wheels on and kill 2MPG off my total - I might have well as kept the Tundra and enjoyed the massive torque and 0-60 times in the low 6's. I do miss all that power let's be real, the 4R feels like a slug compared to the 5.7. I needed something that got better MPG's and could still tow at least 5000 lbs. That meant my third 4Runner! Lovin it so far.
 
Nice set of wheels and tires.

Great review and thanks for sharing.

I am a big fan of black wheels as wheel. I will probably keep my stock wheels for winter tires and purchase set of all terrain tires/black wheels for the rest of the season use.
 
An important thing to consider when you at all care about MPG's is rotating mass. I was searching for a wheel that weighed right around 25 lbs. That really narrows down the choices, (see tirerack for wheel weights.) A lot of them are closer to 30 lbs each. The stock 17" FJ wheels are 26 lbs. which is a good choice. I did a lot of research and forum searching. I also had my eye on the Black Rock Type D 909B

Ya know I never really put too much thought into the weight.....but it's a good point. I found a BAD @$$ set of rims today from a BMW X5 but the bolt pattern is different. I hear ya though, black rim choices are hard to come by that meet all the different requirements we look for (weight, bolt pattern, offset, backspacing, rim width/diameter).

Thanks for sharing....hope you enjoy your new toy!
 
those tires I beleive are 40 lbs, and the stockers are 39, so not a huge difference there. This is one of the reasons I am wary to go to LT tires, or even just the P-metric Goodyears, at 44lbs a piece.
 
those tires I beleive are 40 lbs, and the stockers are 39, so not a huge difference there. This is one of the reasons I am wary to go to LT tires, or even just the P-metric Goodyears, at 44lbs a piece.

After seeing how much Load E rated tires on my last truck killed my MPGs and acceleration, you're right, I personally wouldn't put LT tires on the 4R. Just a good quality P tire made such a difference over the stock in handling, very noticeable. Check out the ratings on tirerack.com for the stock tires, they're rated pretty poorly in all categories. Like really bad and they're not even that cheap, don't understand why anyone would buy them. Even Lexus' come with crap tires nowadays.
 
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Those Black Rocks are sweet looking , i like the center cover too it looks real clean .

I read that they are black satin , but could not find if they are powder coated and cleared satin or just painted . Anyone know ??

Since i do go off road BUT to be honest its my daily driver first and thats where all the miles get put on . I will stay with a "P" or at most a "C" rated tire , also depends on weight of the tire too.
 
I'm trying to figure out what's up with your front hubs...my TE has black covers under the centercaps...is your SR5 a 2WD?
Also, are the spokes of the OEM SR5 hubs polished or painted?
thanks...
 
After seeing how much Load E rated tires on my last truck killed my MPGs and acceleration, you're right, I personally wouldn't put LT tires on the 4R. Just a good quality P tire made such a difference over the stock in handling, very noticeable. Check out the ratings on tirerack.com for the stock tires, they're rated pretty poorly in all categories. Like really bad and they're not even that cheap, don't understand why anyone would buy them. Even Lexus' come with crap tires nowadays.

Very good info. Thanks! I've done a ton of research too to figure out what to put on mine but had a lot of trouble deciding. I've narrowed it down to the Firestone Destination A/T but didn't decide on size yet 285 or 265... Difference of 4lbs (P tires for both). I didn't know how much the 4lbs would make a difference. Go for looks or mph.... is it even a big difference in looks? I tried looking for comparisons but that's kinda tough with so many different rigs out there...
 
I'm trying to figure out what's up with your front hubs...my TE has black covers under the centercaps...is your SR5 a 2WD?
Also, are the spokes of the OEM SR5 hubs polished or painted?
thanks...

Yes I have a 2WD.

The spokes are machined finish. Not quite polished. The insides are painted.
 
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UPDATE: I sold the stock tires with 450 miles on them for $400 on craigslist, and the wheels for $550 on ebay. So I got $950 for the stock tires/wheels.

The Procomp/firestone setup cost me $750+$600=$1350. Bottom line it cost me $400 out of pocket to do this upgrade. No regrets with 1000 miles so far. Averaging 16.2 MPG 95% suburban driving, hope it improves to 17 in a couple thousand miles.
 
Jake ,

I'm just wondering why the 17x8 wheels don't stick out farther . Even though they are an inch wider than stock they dont seemed to be pulled to the outside to widen the stance.

Did you order them that way ?
 

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