1st trip from SoCal to Cabo San Lucas in late Sept./early Oct.! Any suggestions?

Benski

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I am planning on driving to Cabo and spending the Winter. I've only been to TJ a few times and I've walked in. I would appreciate any suggestions on planning the trip and getting ready (ie. Visa, money exchanges, gas, etc.). If anyone is planning on going in late Sept./early Oct. I would appreciate the company!
 
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Only advice .. Don't bring your wife/GF.

Sorry if this advice is a bit DARK.

Some of the horror stories about Baja are TRUE.

About 3 years ago one of my co-worker's close friends was ON A ROADTRIP IN BAJA when the family was robbed and kidnapped for 2 days. I've known this guy for 3 years, he isn't one to exaggerate. He had even gone on past trips with them but skipped that year due to conflicts. They raped the friend's wife multiple times, beat the guy up, then left them out there after taking all their valuables.

The family was not NOOBs at Mexico. They had gone on this same type of hundred-X mile trip to Baja several years before without issue.

The police won't protect you and possession of guns can be a life sentence so don't bring any.

There are always going to be people who say things like "I went to Mexico and it was fine" well I'm sure it was but I go by statistics and the fact is last year San Diego has 06 murders and TJ had OVER 600 murders.

* Population of TJ: 1.3 Million, Murders per year: 06
* Population of San Diego: 1.3 Million, Murders per year: 600+
 
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Lucky guy. I've wanted to do that trip for awhile now. Take lots of pictures and camp on high ground.
 
Unless you speak the language and know your way around, I'd think twice before going.... I'd never consider bringing my 4Runner, for fear of vandalism/theft.

Longtime friend of mine I've known since first grade had an experience there. A street light was not functional and they crashed into a minivan (no one plans this kind of thing).

The women and children along on the trip were picked up by a family member that night, who drove all the way there from Orange County to pick them up. Federales took the males to jail, stole their money, took all their belongings (including the car), and imprisoned them for 2 days. They had to be funded by their family to get plane tickets back home.
 
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I agree with BrianSD. Driving through Mexico is extremely dangerous. I used to travel there because of work. The main tourist cities are fine (playa del Carmen, cabo, etc. but, driving between cities is not safe.

Our office manager in Mexico would not travel the northern part of Mexico and advised us not to.

You only see some of the major crimes from Mexico in the news.
Take a look at Mexican news websites and you will get a better idea about what goes on.

I've been to some questionable places in Mexico 15-20 yrs ago and never had an issue. Now, I don't even cross into the border towns.

If you go, be very careful.

Ruff
 
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Driving through Baja isn't that bad. Things have are getting worse year by year, but most people are fine in the that area. So many overlanders are going that route to avoid going through the heart of Mexico where the real issues are. We've done it several times, and are planning to go again in about 3 years. There are plenty of ways to get in trouble, so use your head.

If you want to talk in detail you can PM, and I'll help you out. Tons of free camping, small fishing huts on the beaches, and lots or roads going no where.
 
Driving itself in Baja is not bad, I've done it. It's what happens is something does go wrong, and some others parts of Baja are just plain dangerous now. TJ has really gone downhill in the past 10 years. I would avoid that place altogether if you can. There's plenty of places in the country or further from the border that are quite pleasant. However...

The police in the penisula are corrupt. We got into a minor traffic accident where a truck backed into our car at a gas station and messed up the door. We had to speak with the police and even though we were clearly not in the wrong (car was not even moving, was filling up gas) the police were asking for bribes to even help us and when refused, they were one step away from throwing the driver in jail. One of us was able to negotiate and we left quickly. And that was back in 2005, it's much worse now.

Basically, besides TJ the country is fine to travel in. However know that you are on your own and the police are NOT on your side. You're a "rich American" and you've got a target on your back as far as the authorities are concerned. Be nice, curteous, don't break traffic laws or get into any sort of accident/situation and you'll be ok.

However, vandalism is still a concern if you stay in the major cities. Maybe not Cabo itself since they protect a bit better because they want to keep the tourists around, but more like if you stop overnight in any other cities.

Lastly, personally, I don't think I'd take my own car. 10 years ago I would have (we did) but the country has gotten worse since then.
 
Hey fourwd1, what does "Moved to OT" mean? I'm from Maryland. I grew up in Towson. Pretty state, lots to do, it has the mountains and the beach!
 
It doesn't sound too promising considering some of you guys are in San Diego, so you should know, but I'm going to go for it anyway! Any suggestions on where to cross the border, the best route through Baja, etc.? Any help would be great.
 
I say Go for it!

I don't want to get anyone riled up here, but I will tell you about my Baja trip last winter.

We had a great trip. Would go back in a heartbeat. We drove from the Yukon down to Cabo and back home over a 8 month period. Took our 4Runner of course, and would not hesitate to do so again. We found the locals to be very friendly, helpful and welcoming. I only speak restaurant spanish but I do not expect locals to know english, I can get by. They appreciate this.

Tips: Forget about TJ. Cross Potrero, Cali. to Tecate Mex. Easy small border crossing. Tecate is small enough to be easy to negotiate, 5 min and you are through it. Then it is a lovely drive south to Ensenada which is not bad as citys go. We didn't hang around the boarder on the way south but coming north we spent some time near Ensenada and enjoyed it.

We bought insurance for 6 months from an office in Calexico. Right on the main St. Was easy to get to and they were easy to deal with. Others do it online.

The biggest negative to the whole Baja trip was the narrow roads. It takes some time getting used to them. They get progressively better as you head south. We never travelled at night, always arrived in daylight. Drive slowly and watch for Topes (speedbumps) in odd places. We found other drivers to be predictable. Maybe not following any rules but predictable. We averaged 50Km/hour for all of Baja. It takes time to get places.

We did not free camp anywhere. Campgrounds are plentiful and cheap.

Gas is easy, stations clean and pretty new. Just pay in round numbers, say 400 pesos. It's easier than dealing with change if you say 'fill er up'. Saves a bit of stress but we had no problems with anyone. Never short changed. Tip the attendant. I used premium which all stations had, still cheap. I carried a spare fuel filter but didn't need it.

We liked the middle section the best. Loreto was our favorite town, spent Christmas here. The bottom loop around Cabo is busy and developed. Not a favorite.

You will be far from the only Northerner there. There are gobs of Canadians down there, mostly in their own rigs. We were told the American traffic had slowed in the past several years but we still met lots. Us Canadians never stopped going down. Most people said Baja is still safe, they were more wary of the mainland but that is second hand info. We stayed on Baja.

Wish I could go back this year.

PM me if you want any specific info.
Have a great trip.
 
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