2004 vsc trac, vsc off, and ABS lights came on after leveling kit installed

beewee

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My first post, but been visiting for a while...

I just had the local 4 wheel parts install the pro comp 2.5" leveling kit in the front of my 04 4runner sr5. Upon driving it home I noticed instantly the vsc trac, vsc off and ABS lights were on. None were on before. I called them to ask why and they were CLUELESS!

Any suggestions other than go to a dealer?
 
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been a couple months since you posted so I imagine you already had it taken care of. I wouldn't have known what to tell you, but what did you wind up doing to get it fixed? What was the problem?
 
when you broke the ball joint, did you disconnet the ABS wire? or when the ball joint broke, the control arm flew up?? or did you have the castle nut still on it?

more than likely, one of the ABS (driver side or pass side) wires got over stretched or broke.. use a scan tool to see which side it is.. the cable is about $50..

hope this helps
 
A long story short.......

I took it to Toyota and it was a broken harness. 4 wheel parts bought me a new one, (routed it differently) installed it and had the codes fixed.

You have to re route the harness even for a 2" spacer kit or it will over stretch and brake. Apparently the computer didn't like the lift and it had to be re set for the vsc trac to work again.

Cheers,
B
 
any of you guys with CF etc have this problem? or did you reroute the harness at time of install? planning a 3/2 or 2/1 in the near future and want to know what I'm getting into...thanks
 
I just put on a Daystar lift and had no problems after doing the front and driving around the block a few times. After the back the ABS lights came on. No wires are obviously damaged and everything is connected. I might have stretched a wire when prying the back springs back on their seats, but I really don't think so.

I can't figure why the harness would need to be rerouted though. The wires come down the upper A-arm which hasn't moved or been changed. Then attaches to the spindle and to the wheel. Those are all fixed to the lower arm, so the maximum suspension travel range shouldn't be different than it was before the lift. The spacer pushes the whole assembly down, but not anymore than it could have dropped on it's own before hand (like when jacking the front end or doing some off-roading.)

I'll be taking her in tomorrow so they can check the code and find the problem.
 
thanks Cybercannon! let us know what you find out... I was considering the DS as well as the CF...please let us know how you like it...
 
Well, I guess it wasn't my fault. Dealer said the wires are fine and the actual sensor is bad, so they're getting a new one for me and doing it under Warranty. Pretty cool since I bought it used and didn't realize it was still covered. I knew I didn't hit that wire, but after the light came on I started second guessing myself. Maybe I shook something loose that was already on the verge of braking when I took the wheel off. :confused:

I raised this question at toyota120 also because they seem to really like offroading over there and they said pretty much the same thing as my last post. The upper and lower A arms and spindle are all connected exactly as they were before and don't change with a spacer lift. Their total travel range isn't changed, so the wires shouldn't need to be rerouted. Dealer told me the same today.

However, I personally noticed that when your jacking the vehicle up and the suspension drops the ABS wires may be clipped on without enough slack on the upper A arm. There was plenty of wire on the other side of the clip so I just scooted a little of that slack down.
 
YotaConvert said:
thanks Cybercannon! let us know what you find out... I was considering the DS as well as the CF...please let us know how you like it...

No problem. I went with the Daystar for many of the reasons on JA's website here . I like the black better. I like that it was an inbetween size (2.5/1.5) of the cornfed options and that the polyurathane won't corrode and should last the life of the vehicle.

They did change the design, but I like it. The daystar is now all topout and has no preload spacer. JA liked the Daystar because the last version's preload spacer was less than cornfed, so the springs weren't already... uh... so preloaded :D . Now the springs are completely the same as before, so it shouldn't stiffen the ride much if at all.

I guess one concern of it being topout is overextension of the ball joint, but on the 2.5" lift it's fine. I think another concern was the CVs, but Bulldog does a lot of this stuff and in a thread over at toyota120 stated that it shouldn't be a problem until you get over 3". If anything mine are now angled slightly downward (from body to wheel), where as stock they were angled upward and the angle was larger/worse. Basically it's more in line now than it was stock, so I'm not worried.

The install was likely easier on one hand and I suspect a bit more difficult on the other hand compared to the last Daystar version. The spring/shock assembly does NOT need to be taken apart like before. No coil compressors or vice grip needed. It came with extension bolts that go over the existing 3 bolts (per side) and the spacers slip over those. The instructions are adequate, but I still used JAs and Bulldogs guides to the install and just skipped the steps for the absent preload spacer. One tool you definately want is that pitman arm puller. The instructions said to just hit the side of the spindle. I worked that thing up and down with my mallet and no way. Had to go to autozone the next day to get the puller and that did the job in 3 seconds.

The slightly more difficult part than the last version (I suspect) is trying to squeeze the taller assembly back into place. Being all topout now I bet it's a bit taller than the previous version. Squeezing it out in the first place was hard enough. Putting a 2"-3" taller object back in there proved quite tricky and required fancy use of the floor jack and the bottle jack on the roof of the wheel well.

So far I'm very happy. It looks so much better. I walk out to it in a parking lot with it's more aggressive stance and it looks like SUVs are supposed to before auto manufacturers starting catering more to moms and mall rats. Isn't that what the highlander is for??? Leave the 4runner a rugged trail vehicle damnit. What's with this lowering to the ground for more car like feel? Buy a highlander or a sienna and don't touch the 4R's heritage. :mad: (Done ranting).

It feels pretty much stock over bumps and rail tracks to me, but it is taller and I notice that slightly more taking corners, but it still doesn't have nearly the body sway of the jeep GC I test drove. No where close to that things rocking and swaying. Made my wife sick.

I got the 2.5"/1.5", but actually had about 3" in the front and 1.5" in back on stock tires. It has a slight rake forward. Ground clearance is now 10.5 - 11" under various parts of the front skid plate and about 9.25" under the rear diff (again on stock tires and full tank of gas).

I'm waiting for tires and wheel spacers before posting any pics and I'll do that in my own thread. I'm trying to decide between 265/70/17 BFG TA/KOs or 275/70/17 GY wrangler SAs. I like the BFGs aggressive look, but the GYs are slightly bigger. They both have the mountain/flake rating. I need to see them side by side. Choices.....

Sorry to hijack the thread. The jist of my experience is that I'm happy with the daystar and I did not need to reroute wires.
 
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thanks again Cybercannon! that's exactly what I wanted to hear. Daystars were my first choice but then I looked into the CF a little more and was going to go with them. after seeing pictures I was stuck on whether I should go with the 3/2 or 2/1 because some of the 3/2's looked to high but then others didn't. So that said, the DS should be perfect because they'll put me in between the two. I was also concerned with there being squeeks and such with the CF so another positive for the DS. I should apologize as well for hijacking the thread but curious minds must know!:D so that said, 2 more quick questions...

the 255/75/17 BF's should fit with this lift without any rubbing correct? Could I go with 265/75/17? lastly(sorry 3 questions)

anyone know where to get the Daystars in Canada?

thanks everyone!
 
I ordered my Daystar kit # KT09115BK fromhttp://www.rubicon4x4.com/allprods.php?page=46 because it was cheaper than other places and it ships directly from Daystar anyway. I'm not even sure if that site officially sells them or not, because you can't find that page I linked to from their main site. It let me put it in the cart and order it, so I figured the worst that would happen is I call the credit card company to stop that payment if they didn't deliver. Ended up being just fine. I don't know if they ship to Canada or not.

That kit# actually contains the two separate kits for front and back, so the box will list that kit#, but inside will be two sets of instructions for front kit# KT09115BK and back kit#KT09118BK. Because of that and the design change I actually called them and spoke with Don who confirmed the change and that I had the right pieces.

As far as tires, I'm not really sure. I listed the two sizes I did because I know that they work on other member's 4Rs and still fit the spare. You can try http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html and compare dimensions I suppose. I know if they get too fat they can rub the upper A arms. Spacers would help with that. I also know that people with the 285's do quite a bit of trimming of that plastic in the front wheel wells and remove mudflaps, and those spares won't fit.

Comparing on that site it looks like the 255s you listed are narrower, so the A-arm is probably okay, and they're nearly the same diamater as the 275s which Promed has, though I think he did trim just a little. His 275s fit a spare under his V8 with the weight dist. hitch also, so those should also. Promeds: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/showthread.php?threadid=32116<br />

The 265s you listed are slightly bigger than Promeds so you may have to do some small trimming of the plastic again. I don't know if that small increase would make it too big to fit a spare or not, but Promed's looks like a tight fit.

I'll let you know which ones I listed I end up getting and how they fit in a few days hopefully.
 
great info Cybercannon, thanks again! when I get some more time I'll see if they'll ship to the great white north. regarding the tires, I think I may be a little confused on how the sizing works...I read some of the sticky's and been to some of the websites but d@mn it I think i'm more confused!

the 255 refers to the width doesn't it? so whether its a 255/75 or a 265/75 both should be the same height? sorry all, the more I read about tires the less they make sense...

2 more days and I should have my runner!!!!!:dancin:
 
I had the same problem after installing my daystar kit. overstretched the ABS wires. doh! My local dealer wanted $70 something each for new ones. What a joke. Went home, cut the connectors off the ends and crimped in 2 new, longer wires, covered in shrink tubing, and both sides are good to go for about $2 worth of parts and 10 minutes of work. Don't buy these parts from the dealer, it's just two basic, small guage wires inside that harness!!
 

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