2005 V8 engine - Gaining access to the secondary air pump circuit

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This thread is to serve as a combination of what I learned as well as to provide very general guidelines on accessing the secondary air pump and control valve on affected 4.7L Toyota engines. Because of slight variances between the UZ engines I feel the need to specify that this work was performed on a 2UZ-FE VVTi engine.

It all began after my truck had sat for a week while I was away on business. Upon my return, the unmistakeable shop vac sound was heard upon startup. Somehow I was able to avoid engine codes for 3 days and in that time ordered the reliable AIP (Air Intake Pump) bypass supplied by our faithful member, slyfox75. Unbeknownst to me, this would end up as the beginning of an intimate relationship with what was about to take place....intake plenum removal and a deep understanding of how absurd this system is.

To the uninformed, the secondary air pump system does absolutely nothing other than inject oxygen into the exhaust manifold during cold starts which in turn satisfies EPA requirements. This means the same shitty emissions are still present and are nothing more than diluted for about 2 minutes during cold starts. This detail is important to know since the United States government allows such ridiculous "solutions" in an effort to achieve certain emissions numbers. I will save any further opinion on this matter. Just know this particular emission, at least at the time this was typed, is NOT tested in any state within the United States of America. Cold starts are not how emissions testing is performed and is only a requirement for manufacturers to follow. You will not be anal probed by black helicopters for bypassing this system.

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Okay....deeeeeeep breath.

To help with some questions, the air pump will be considered as the starting point in the system. Keep this in mind as you read on. It will help you understand some of the terminology I will be using words such as "up" or "behind" to describe parts locations or flow direction.

The facts as I experienced them:

  • Blockoff plates did not suit my application in that I would have broken a bunch of hardware
  • The AIP bypass is not designed for a control valve that is stuck open (as in my case) and there is currently no way to get around this to my knowledge.
  • Limp Mode indicates an open control valve. Exhaust pressure is being sensed behind the secondary valves
  • The two secondary valves can easily be bypassed by blocking a couple vacuum lines and are hardly ever a point of failure
  • If you happen to notice a sort of "airbox" noise, there is a chance the secondary valve is stuck open which means exhaust is making its way backwards through the system and possibly up to the pump

We are looking at the following parts in the picture...
25710 (air pump flow control valve) and 17600C (secondary air pump)

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Please bear in mind that I had to make these repairs one day before flying out on business. That said, this will not be exactly picture heavy and you will need at least some level of mechanical aptitude in order to complete these repairs. This is written from the perspective that you have already removed everything up to the throttle body, have mechanical ability and understand certain safety requirements such as disconnecting the battery and bleeding off fuel pressure.

Tools needed to access the pump/ control valve:
Padding (mechanic's pad or similar)
Vacuum with crevice tool
Assortment of sockets ranging from 8mm to 17mm
Assortment of wrenches ranging from 10mm to 22mm
Mechanic's magnet
Pliers (needlenose, snubnose, etc, for removing hose clamps and retrieving dropped non-magnetic hardware)
Non-cholorinated brake cleaner
Paper towels

Total time: ~6h

Procedure:

Disconnect battery (assumed)

Vacuum everything around the intake plenum and engine block. Don't forget to vacuum around the injectors too!! Anything that is left behind runs the risk of falling into the engine and that can be bad.

Remove intake between airbox and throttle body (assumed)

Remove/disconnect all vacuum lines associated with the intake plenum

Trace all wire bundles around the intake plenum and loosen them from any retaining clips

Disconnect all injector electrical connectors and any other connectors within the work area

Remove the two 10mm bolts that secure the main wire harness to the rear of the intake plenum

Bleed off fuel pressure and remove fuel pressure regulator located on driver's side with a 22mm open end wrench. BE CAREFUL not to drop EITHER or BOTH washers on banjo bolt.

Disconnect and remove the hard fuel line located at the front, top of the intake plenum. Again, be careful to not drop the two washers required for each banjo bolt.

Loosen the 4 nuts and 6 bolts that secure the intake plenum and remove the hardware completely

Remove the rear most, passenger side banjo bolt located on the passenger side fuel rail. The hard fuel line can remain attached to the intake plenum

Loosen the four 10mm bolts that secure each fuel rail, in addition to the (what I will call) the secondary fuel pressure regulator located on the passenger side fuel rail

Lift one fuel rail at a time and pull injectors one-by-one ensuring there is no debris around the injector seals. I also recommend marking the location of each injector.

Removing the fuel rails is tricky however I discovered that if you slightly lift the plenum and rotate each fuel rail to a certain position, they will very easily slide forward and clear the engine hoist hooks that are in the way. I suppose you could remove both engine hoist hooks but I found removing the rails to be more straightforward.

Remove the intake plenum (!!!!!)

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You will see this:

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Front and center is the secondary air pump. The next component is the control valve.

Remove both by loosening the hardware and rubber hoses. See next pic with air pump and control valve removed. Note the location of the starter near the top of the picture

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Control valve disassembled with foam exposed:

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Secondary air pump diassembled to show blower (note the few broken fins)

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Clean the foam out of the control valve. After using compressed air and carefully scraping away the existing foam, I used non-chlorinated brake cleaner to spray inside the control valve body followed by drying it out with compressed air. Several attempts might be necessary. The key is to remove ALL of the foam as best you can.

It is strictly my opinion but I believe Toyota used the same foam to seal the air pump as was used inside the control valve. Look closely at the similarity in texture between the pics. The same sticky consistency was observed in material with both the control valve and secondary air pump seal.

NOTE: I cleaned all of the gasket surfaces with brake cleaner sprayed onto a paper towel. All of the intake plenum rubber was cleaned in the same manner, making sure there is a clean surface for the intake to seal to once it is installed to the engine block.
 
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Sweet write-up!
So......did you just clean and reuse parts? Or did you replace valves or pump?
On the valves, where they seat.....is it metal to metal contact??
The pump itself.....looks like no filter whatsoever on incoming air....true? I could see where a critter, insect, etc could find a home if your truck sat for a while and then on startup it got chopped up. Not that this happened in this case, but I can see it happening to someone.

Thanks again!
 
So that is the CONTROL valve you have apart.....I was thinking it was "valve bank 1" or "2"(25720). Did you take those apart as well?
 
Sweet write-up!
So......did you just clean and reuse parts? Or did you replace valves or pump?
On the valves, where they seat.....is it metal to metal contact??
The pump itself.....looks like no filter whatsoever on incoming air....true? I could see where a critter, insect, etc could find a home if your truck sat for a while and then on startup it got chopped up. Not that this happened in this case, but I can see it happening to someone.

Thanks again!

So that is the CONTROL valve you have apart.....I was thinking it was "valve bank 1" or "2"(25720). Did you take those apart as well?

I cleaned and reused all parts. Absolutely no parts replacement on my particular repair.

The Bank 1 and 2 valves I suspect are reed type valves. I am going to add more to the first post about those but all in all, they are each detected by the two vacuum/ pressure sensors that are mounted to the passenger side of the intake. I did not mess with those at all except to see that they look like they are impossible to remove without somehow moving the engine however this thought is a guess based on a 5 minute observation.

Outside of the foam deteriorating, I'm willing to bet the only real failure in this system would be the pump ingesting something. It is true, there is no filter on the intake side of the pump. That short tube coming off the black pump housing is the entire flow-in distance. The blower fins are immediately visible.
 
So if you preemptively install the bypass you will theoriically never have an issue because the pump won't start and the valves wont move...correct?
 
So if you preemptively install the bypass you will theoriically never have an issue because the pump won't start and the valves wont move...correct?

07V8.......Yes.

By installing the bypass won't that mess with the trucks ECU and cause other codes to flash due to the pump not functioning and it taking longer for the CATs to heat up?

Anyone who installed the bypass a while back have any issues?
 
By installing the bypass won't that mess with the trucks ECU and cause other codes to flash due to the pump not functioning and it taking longer for the CATs to heat up?

Anyone who installed the bypass a while back have any issues?

No to both questions.

The air pump circuit has nothing to do with the catalytic converters other than to flush oxygen into the exhaust stream.


EDIT: Added a few more pics and more info
 
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By installing the bypass won't that mess with the trucks ECU and cause other codes to flash due to the pump not functioning and it taking longer for the CATs to heat up?

Anyone who installed the bypass a while back have any issues?

I installed SlyFox's bypass kit on both my 4.7 liter vehicles and have not had a bit of trouble with codes afterwards. They've been on for at least 8 months now. I would recommend this to everyone that has this engine. I just wish I had thought of it first.
 
I installed SlyFox's bypass kit on both my 4.7 liter vehicles and have not had a bit of trouble with codes afterwards. They've been on for at least 8 months now. I would recommend this to everyone that has this engine. I just wish I had thought of it first.

Is this bypass something that needs to be removed for an emissions test or is it basically undetectable? I'd like to install one but don't really want to mess with having to take it off once a year to pass a test... and pay my vehicle use tax... aka inspection fee...
 
I installed SlyFox's bypass kit on both my 4.7 liter vehicles and have not had a bit of trouble with codes afterwards. They've been on for at least 8 months now. I would recommend this to everyone that has this engine. I just wish I had thought of it first.


Does your state have emissions testing? Any issues with that and the mod?
 
Does your state have emissions testing? Any issues with that and the mod?
I don't think the emissions testing facilities care about the cold engine start scenario. Since this system only runs for 30 seconds on startup, I don't think the emission Police will care or notice.
 
Ben......these are fine for emissions testing.
There is "no trace" of the bypass being on the car.
A lot of this has been covered multiple times but the Air Pumps(that you would be disabling) only come on for less than a minute on a cold start(AKA, you first start in the AM typically). The parameters for pump on or pump off if Ambient Air temp ABOVE 41F......and your coolant/antifreeze warm.
41F and above and cool coolant = pump on
41F and above and warm coolant = pump off(after you run your first errand of the day)
Below 41F regardless of coolant temp = Pump off
The bypass tells ECU it is COLD outside......so the pump never comes on.
Pretty simple actually. The bypass only tells the ECU the cold temperature while it has power.....which is tied to starter power so 1-2 secs as starter is engaged/running. Relay then loses power and reverts back to factory Toyota circuit and actual air temp to get your fuel air mix right.
 
Slyfox how do we get info of your repair kit. I have a 2006 tundra with 59,000 miles that just started doing the shop vac noise. I stopped driving it as of now.
 
In order to avoid starting yet another secondary air pump thread I am going to piggy back on this as it appears to be the most one this topic.
A couple of weeks ago my 2005 V8 Sport threw a 0418 (Secondary Air Injection System Control "A" Circuit) and 2445 (Secondary Air Injection System Pump Stock Off Bank 1). These codes were also accompanied by sporadically getting limp mode. I unplugged the air pump driver and contacted Slyfox (who is a really good guy BTW) about installing his kit.
I have now installed the kit and it appears to have fixed the 2445 code, but I still get a 0418 under rather odd circumstances. I only get the 0418 when the key is in the "on" position, without the vehicle running, for more than what seems to be a couple of seconds. This happens when it is hot or cold. I can even let it sit in the "on" position without the engine running, clear the codes, and they come back instantly. On the other hand, if I start the vehicle without letting the key linger in the "on" position I do not get a code. It seems like the computer is trying to check the status of the pump driver or something else prior to start up and it sees something it doesn't like. Any thoughts?
 
I unplugged the big gray connector with the red and green wires shown in this photo. I was trying to be proactive and shut down the system to prevent a valve from getting stuck open and perhaps I confused the system. I am going to drive it for a bit and see if it sorts itself out.

Edit: Just to clarify, I did plug everything back in when I installed the bypass.
 

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