2006 Rav4 Revealed

Mark86 said:
It may seem radical, but maybe they will make the GX470 as a hybrid only??? :confused:

Hybrid systems don't make sense in heavier vehicles.
You'll never see hybrid on anything heavier than a Highlander/Lexus RX 330.

For heavier applications, Diesel is the way to go.

Gasoline vs. Diesel is similar to Incandescent vs. Fluorescent.
 
Edmunds.com has some info on the upcoming RAV4...

http://www.edmunds.com/news/autosho...025.html?tid=edmunds.e.autoshow..leftnav.26.*

It didn't mention the v6 engine tho.....

Although Europeans enjoy a choice of gas or diesel engines, we were told that all U.S. models will come with a 2.0-liter inline four making 155 hp. Transmission choices remain a five-speed manual or four-speed automatic. And all models will have four-wheel drive as well as standard stability control, the latter a new feature for the RAV4
 

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Offroader said:
Hybrid systems don't make sense in heavier vehicles.


Some companies are actually starting their hybrids with their heavier vehicles. The heavier the vehicle, the bigger the gain in mpg.

With all the torque electric motors have, they are a natural for vehicles used for towing.
 
JungleJim said:
Some companies are actually starting their hybrids with their heavier vehicles. The heavier the vehicle, the bigger the gain in mpg.

With all the torque electric motors have, they are a natural for vehicles used for towing.

Really?
Illustrate us with ONE example.
 
CopperX said:
Edmunds.com has some info on the upcoming RAV4...

http://www.edmunds.com/news/autosho...025.html?tid=edmunds.e.autoshow..leftnav.26.*

It didn't mention the v6 engine tho.....

This doesn't make sense...the current RAV4 has a 2.4L I4 with over 160 hp and torque. Putting in a 2.0L engine is taking a step backwards. The transmission should be 5-speed auto at least...since Honda CRV has a 5-speed auto tranny. Many 4-cylinder cars coming out these days have 5-speed auto tranny.
 
Thai said:
This doesn't make sense...the current RAV4 has a 2.4L I4 with over 160 hp and torque. Putting in a 2.0L engine is taking a step backwards. The transmission should be 5-speed auto at least...since Honda CRV has a 5-speed auto tranny. Many 4-cylinder cars coming out these days have 5-speed auto tranny.

That information is false. The 4-banger in the new RAV4 will be:
2.4-liter four-cylinder with VVT-i
Horsepower: 166
Torque: 165 lb.-ft @ 4000 rpm

But, it'll still have the 4-speed auto. The V6 gets a 5-speed auto.
 
3.5-liter V6 with dual VVT-i
Horsepower: 268
Torque: 246 lb.-ft. @ 4000 rpm

2.4-liter four-cylinder with VVT-i
Horsepower: 166
Torque: 165 lb.-ft @ 4000 rpm
 
iFORCE said:
3.5-liter V6 with dual VVT-i
Horsepower: 268
Torque: 246 lb.-ft. @ 4000 rpm

I guess that it inherits Avalon's 3.5L V6 engine...very cool! Damn, even the cheap cars nowadays are getting DUAL VVT-i.
 
Offroader said:
Really?
Illustrate us with ONE example.
Next generation Tundra will have a hybrid option.....it makes sense for a larger truck, because electric motors make full torque at 0 rpm. Also, the larger the engine/vehicle, the larger the potential increase in mileage, and the larger the electric motor and battery system can be.
 
Too bad......just found out that they scrapped the manual trans for new version.....one more vehicle with auto only
 
tkr128 said:
Thanks for posting that! My dad's been looking to getting one for my mom, especially since they're offering a V6 in them! Rumor has it that it's getting a 270hp version of the 3.5L V6 in the Avalon, which is just a modified version of the 4.0L V6 in the 4Runner.

The new RAV with 266hp!! I keep telling some of the V-8 knuckleheads on this site that the 4.0L V-6 in our 4Runner is capable of much more. Toyota could easily get 275hp out of the 4.0L engine used in the 4Runner, Tacoma, and Tundra trucks. Trust me peeps.....it is and will be a RELIABLE toyota engine. Just because it makes a lot of noise doesn't mean it isn't well built.

Also, be advised that the Toyota Corporation is committed to increasing the amount of hybrid vehicles in its fleet over the next 5+ years. Like it or not, if the gasoline prices remain high then so will the demand for hybrids. Personally, I hope the next design Runner has the hybrid option.

As fas as the hybrid not being good for a heavy vehicle; the Chevy Silverado already has the hybrid engine. The race is on to develop more of them in the future. Right now under the Bush's administration (laxed pollution laws)....there is a big push for the return of diesels. The diesel engine manufacturers still have to do a good bit of improvement of removing particles to meet the strict state EPA standards of CA and NY. I, myself would not vote for diesel engines in the state of CA......we still have a big issue with the smog here.

I'd be more in favor of hybrid vehicles. Also add in the fact that diesel fuel costs more that reg unleaded......$3.32 vs $3.09 here in So. California. Moving toward diesel engines in the future still gives OPEC the leverage to continue to rape the American worker's pocketbook.
 
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fo'runner said:
The diesel engine manufacturers still have to do a good bit of improvement of removing particles to meet the strict state EPA standards of CA and NY. I, myself would not vote for diesel engines in the state of CA......we still have a big issue with the smog here.

I'd be more in favor of hybrid vehicles. Also add in the fact that diesel fuel costs more that reg unleaded......$3.32 vs $3.09 here in So. California. Moving toward diesel engines in the future still gives OPEC the leverage to continue to rape the American worker's pocketbook.

Well, then the solution is simple:
Diesel for the U.S., except NY and CA.

Now, regarding diesel price, the truth is that Diesel is 25% to 30% cheaper than gasoline, being closer to crude oil (less refined).

So it's just a matter of the US GOVERNMENT, not OPEC to reduce the excessive taxes.

Also, Uncle Sam would have to modify refineries to increase Diesel production capacity.
 
fo'runner said:
The new RAV with 266hp!! I keep telling some of the V-8 knuckleheads on this site that the 4.0L V-6 in our 4Runner is capable of much more. Toyota could easily get 275hp out of the 4.0L engine used in the 4Runner, Tacoma, and Tundra trucks. Trust me peeps.....it is and will be a RELIABLE toyota engine. Just because it makes a lot of noise doesn't mean it isn't well built.

HP is not everything...in a truck, you want torque...and you want it at low RPMs. The 3.5L V6 in the new RAV4 is the same one in Toyota Avalon...it's a car engine.
 
(a little late to post on this thread but...)

I absolutely hate toyota for giving the Rav4 the same hp as my V8 4Runner...I've always wanted more power in my 4Runner (I planned on the TRD supercharger as part of my purchase only to find out no sc will be offered for the 05 V8) and now they go and give a mini-suv MY hp!!! grrrrrr the ONLY thing that would make me forgive toyota is if TRD would offer a SC (giving me around 370-400hp)

Toyota...look around....the new TrailBlazer SS with the vette engine (you can supercharge/turbo).......the Jeep with the hemi (that you can also supercharge)...some of us WANT lots of HP along with our luxury and offroad capabilities....you dont have to offer it stock, but at least offer it as an option!!!

I knew coming from a 600hp Supra I would never be satisfied with stock hp figures *hahaha*
 
24runners said:
(a little late to post on this thread but...)

I absolutely hate toyota for giving the Rav4 the same hp as my V8 4Runner...I've always wanted more power in my 4Runner (I planned on the TRD supercharger as part of my purchase only to find out no sc will be offered for the 05 V8) and now they go and give a mini-suv MY hp!!! grrrrrr the ONLY thing that would make me forgive toyota is if TRD would offer a SC (giving me around 370-400hp)

Toyota...look around....the new TrailBlazer SS with the vette engine (you can supercharge/turbo).......the Jeep with the hemi (that you can also supercharge)...some of us WANT lots of HP along with our luxury and offroad capabilities....you dont have to offer it stock, but at least offer it as an option!!!

I knew coming from a 600hp Supra I would never be satisfied with stock hp figures *hahaha*

I don't want to make you more angry, but the RAV4 actually has 5 more hp than your V8 4Runner. The RAV 4 has 280 hp and the 4Runner only has 275 hp! I thought you would like to hear that.:arrow:
 
Mark86 said:
I don't want to make you more angry, but the RAV4 actually has 5 more hp than your V8 4Runner. The RAV 4 has 280 hp and the 4Runner only has 275 hp! I thought you would like to hear that.:arrow:

actually, the 275hp i think should be about 8-10hp less because of the recent SAE certs, no?
 
just saw the new rav4 limited 4 cylinder
at the dealership while i was warrenting the pipes on my runner
got to drive it wasent fast nor did it had nice ride feel
it was in red it looked like a tribeca from the side rear profile
there was plenty of space for the rear passangers the rear seats are adjustable interior room was plenty all around
interior was shabby and the cluster was no big deal not very cool looking from the inside.
screw on antenna wasen't impressive
overall wasent please
 

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